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tallkid123 · 01-27-2011, 01:34 AM

On my way home from a 120 mile round trip I lost my clutch (which I purchased brand new less than 5k miles ago). Pedal went to the floor and lost pressure. It came back up but you could tell the pedal was doing nothing. I drove it home with no clutch (used starter motor to get going at lights, rev matched shifts) and pulled it out the next day to find this; the friction material was stuck in the pressure plate fingers, so they were stuck "in" yet the clutch was still engaged:

this is my garage, and the new clutch installed:

my car only makes 350ish rwhp, went with a clutch rated at 600 this time around

Erik@R/TTuning · 01-27-2011, 11:18 AM

Wow, what kind of clutch was it?

willthethrill · 01-27-2011, 11:48 AM

man the only thing probably worse than the hand grenade clutch is replacing it in the snow.

tallkid123 · 01-27-2011, 11:59 AM

It was an Advance Auto "Perfection" clutch, a child company of Zoom

It seems their quality control is now crap, a few other people have now had them fail in the exact same way recently along with a few slave cylinders that leak brand new

Willdue · 01-27-2011, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallkid123

It was an Advance Auto "Perfection" clutch, a child company of Zoom

theres the issue.

PSUe36 · 01-27-2011, 03:32 PM

That clutch looks like it has definitely seen better days

ourbloodykisses · 01-27-2011, 03:55 PM

holy hell

tallkid123 · 01-27-2011, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willdue

theres the issue.

apparently they used to be a decent company

..when I pulled it out and showed my dad he pointed at the "made in china" stamp and said "well there's your real problem"

OutToWinPAHC · 01-27-2011, 05:32 PM

I wish my T56 came out that easy

Erik@R/TTuning · 01-27-2011, 05:38 PM

Yeah, they are known to be pretty crappy. Sorry you had to learn the hard way.

DPancoast · 01-27-2011, 06:26 PM

aw man that sucks.

I had a perfection clutch in my n/a mr2 a while back. always worked good for me. god knows how the car is doing now

tallkid123 · 01-27-2011, 06:53 PM

oh well, it all worked out. this car was originally an automatic and I converted it to a 6 speed, only thing I didn't go big on was the clutch (had the transmission rebuilt/upgraded, upgraded master cylinder, decent shifter etc.) so it gave me an excuse to upgrade it. and I caught a sale when it failed so I got about $75 off on the clutch I had wanted in the first place

XxIriponzeesxX · 01-28-2011, 10:34 PM

i had the same thing happen to my clutch, i was ripping around and then i felt the clutch give out. i drove it around till i couldnt stand the chattering lol

01 Trans-Am WS6 · 02-06-2011, 04:04 PM

I bought a Zoom Perfection clutch for my 3000GT years back...was a big piece of crap, first one fried after 2 weeks of normal driving. Was replaced again and car was never the same. Wouldent chirp gears, always sounded like the clutch was slipping.

Whatever you do also dont buy a Spec brand clutch for T56...I bought one for my WS6 and had tons of issues after 3 months of driving.

tallkid123 · 02-07-2011, 11:37 PM

hahah yeah I've heard nothing but horror stories about Spec units, mostly chatter and disengagement issues

I'm running a Diamond Stage 2 now (rated at 600hp), made by TDP and from what I know it was developed with the owner of Monster before the guys split ways. You'll notice by looking at pics that their stages 1-3 look 100% identical apart from the colors they're painted, which I'm sure is no coincidence. I'm also running a Tick (tilton) master cylinder. This clutch grabs HARD when you disengage it quickly and the tick master is sweet. I can slam gears like nobody's business now. I'm just concerned about the 10 bolt at this point hahah, the shock is a lot worse with this clutch on shifts and launches, but it drives extremely smoothly around town.

PunkboySL2 · 02-09-2011, 05:21 PM

Well I'm definitely glad I bought an ACT for my car and not a zoom or any of those other cheap clutches.

01-27-2011, 01:34 AM	#1
tallkid123 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2007 Member #5569 iTrader: (0)	clutch ate itself (pics) On my way home from a 120 mile round trip I lost my clutch (which I purchased brand new less than 5k miles ago). Pedal went to the floor and lost pressure. It came back up but you could tell the pedal was doing nothing. I drove it home with no clutch (used starter motor to get going at lights, rev matched shifts) and pulled it out the next day to find this; the friction material was stuck in the pressure plate fingers, so they were stuck "in" yet the clutch was still engaged: this is my garage, and the new clutch installed: my car only makes 350ish rwhp, went with a clutch rated at 600 this time around

01-27-2011, 11:48 AM	#3
willthethrill Tri-State Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ (Nazi Jermany) Member #1683 My Ride: Infiniti G35 6mt, Datsun 510 iTrader: (0)	man the only thing probably worse than the hand grenade clutch is replacing it in the snow. __________________ 295 is not the speed limit? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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ourbloodykisses Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Williamstown, NJ Member #8143 My Ride: 2002 Honda Civic EX iTrader: (0)	holy hell __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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PunkboySL2 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pennsburg, PA Member #7050 My Ride: Saturns> 94' SW2, 94' SC2 iTrader: (1)	Well I'm definitely glad I bought an ACT for my car and not a zoom or any of those other cheap clutches. __________________ 98 Saturn SL2m - New DD: custom coilovers, slow 94 Saturn SW2a>m - DD: slammed and boosted. SOLD 94 Saturn SC2m -Sleeper: all out build under way 96 Saturn SL2m - built, then wrecked [RIP]

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01-27-2011, 06:53 PM	#12
tallkid123 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2007 Member #5569 iTrader: (0)	oh well, it all worked out. this car was originally an automatic and I converted it to a 6 speed, only thing I didn't go big on was the clutch (had the transmission rebuilt/upgraded, upgraded master cylinder, decent shifter etc.) so it gave me an excuse to upgrade it. and I caught a sale when it failed so I got about $75 off on the clutch I had wanted in the first place

01-28-2011, 10:34 PM	#13
XxIriponzeesxX Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: philly area Member #14173 My Ride: 1991 240sx hatch DD, 1992 KA-T iTrader: (0)	i had the same thing happen to my clutch, i was ripping around and then i felt the clutch give out. i drove it around till i couldnt stand the chattering lol

02-06-2011, 04:04 PM	#14
01 Trans-Am WS6 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poconos, PA Member #9111 My Ride: LSB E46 M3-BBY Evo VIII-FD RX7-TB Evo VIII-AS Evo VIII-G35 S/C-B7 A4-410whpWs6-3kGT iTrader: (0)	I bought a Zoom Perfection clutch for my 3000GT years back...was a big piece of crap, first one fried after 2 weeks of normal driving. Was replaced again and car was never the same. Wouldent chirp gears, always sounded like the clutch was slipping. Whatever you do also dont buy a Spec brand clutch for T56...I bought one for my WS6 and had tons of issues after 3 months of driving.

02-07-2011, 11:37 PM	#15
tallkid123 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2007 Member #5569 iTrader: (0)	hahah yeah I've heard nothing but horror stories about Spec units, mostly chatter and disengagement issues I'm running a Diamond Stage 2 now (rated at 600hp), made by TDP and from what I know it was developed with the owner of Monster before the guys split ways. You'll notice by looking at pics that their stages 1-3 look 100% identical apart from the colors they're painted, which I'm sure is no coincidence. I'm also running a Tick (tilton) master cylinder. This clutch grabs HARD when you disengage it quickly and the tick master is sweet. I can slam gears like nobody's business now. I'm just concerned about the 10 bolt at this point hahah, the shock is a lot worse with this clutch on shifts and launches, but it drives extremely smoothly around town.