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TrboChicsRock
07-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Great article on the testing of wideband units:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2007/06/WidebandShootout/index.php

They tested 8 different widebands against each other, Here were the results:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2007/06/WidebandShootout/images/chart_sm.jpg

I'm happy to see that my wideband (AEM UEGO) fell into the excellent category under accuracy :cool:
Turbo_CitrusEs
07-05-2007, 03:52 PM
Thanks for posting this, I was always wondering how each one of these compared. Im also glad to see the money I spent on my Innovate unit was well worth it!!!
Silverfc88
07-05-2007, 04:23 PM
I don't know how accurate there data was or there testing methods, but I love my PLX M-300 and I've dynoed on different dyno's and I've had the same readouts. I've had mine for for about 4 years and it still reads accurately. The only problem I had with the unit is that 2 of my LED's on the display died recently, but PLX fixed it for free and gave me a whole brand new display. The warranty was only for a year.


Why did they use the old M-300 instead of the SM-AFR+DM-5 anyways?

PLX Devices response to the test.
http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1312



I wouldn't use the chart as a bases to buying a wideband. I mean most of the test was "Subjective". I think all widebands work and do what they are supposed to do. I still plan on buying the new SM-AFR+DM-5 from PLX when I'm ready for it in the DSM.
assault187
07-05-2007, 05:09 PM
Nice post, Ive always been more then happy with my AEM peice...
redline
07-05-2007, 05:34 PM
I don't know how accurate there data was or there testing methods, but I love my PLX M-300 and I've dynoed on different dyno's and I've had the same readouts. I've had mine for for about 4 years and it still reads accurately. The only problem I had with the unit is that 2 of my LED's on the display died recently, but PLX fixed it for free and gave me a whole brand new display. The warranty was only for a year.


Why did they use the old M-300 instead of the SM-AFR+DM-5 anyways?

PLX Devices response to the test.
http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1312



I wouldn't use the chart as a bases to buying a wideband. I mean most of the test was "Subjective". I think all widebands work and do what they are supposed to do. I still plan on buying the new SM-AFR+DM-5 from PLX when I'm ready for it in the DSM.


I agree, I can't see them rating a PLX's accuracy as POOR! WTF
Silverfc88
07-05-2007, 08:48 PM
Another thread about the independent wideband test.


http://efi101.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2477&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
99SL2_Modder
07-05-2007, 09:59 PM
AEM
The AEM unit was accurate during our tests, but with no real data logging capability, of limited usefulness for actual tuning. It was average for response time.

Bull****. I can hook it up to my EFC and datalog it that way.

And yeah, FordMuscle is endorsed by Innovate.
redline
07-05-2007, 10:25 PM
Bull****. I can hook it up to my EFC and datalog it that way.

And yeah, FordMuscle is endorsed by Innovate.

Exactly the AEM is the best "bang for the buck" at $250 and it has a 232 output wire to log with a USB adapter. IMO i't can't be beat for the price and accuracy.
markley02
07-06-2007, 07:55 AM
Exactly the AEM is the best "bang for the buck" at $250 and it has a 232 output wire to log with a USB adapter. IMO i't can't be beat for the price and accuracy.

IMO the LC-1 is the best bang for the buck. It's MSRP is $199
RayArroyo
07-06-2007, 08:32 AM
i despite the aem for anything other than an afr gauge. tuning with it blows.
teh DIRT
07-06-2007, 08:35 AM
gota love biased tests :)

I love my zietronix.

poor ease of use and poor software my ass...this logger rocks.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/lockenstuff/richandgay.jpg

just a random image i have laying around.
Vince@R/TTuning
07-06-2007, 10:18 AM
the Dynojet software that i have with the dyno uses a Bosch LSU4 sensor, which is what alot of major car manufactuers, motec, and many other wideband controllers use....so i find the fact that it is lower on scale (+/-.75) a lil hard to beleive...not to metion ive compared mine with AEM several times and they are usually within .1-.15 of each other. the biggest downside with the AEM that i have found is that race gas seems to tear them up more then other sensors...
TurboTagTeam
07-06-2007, 01:49 PM
i despite the aem for anything other than an afr gauge. tuning with it blows.

I agree, disco gauges suck......oh, look at the pretty lights!!!
99SL2_Modder
07-06-2007, 05:34 PM
I agree, disco gauges suck......oh, look at the pretty lights!!!

Um, they have a digital face too.


i despite the aem for anything other than an afr gauge. tuning with it blows.

No offense, but tuning with an AEM UEGO is so easy it's not funny.
Silverfc88
07-06-2007, 05:41 PM
As long as you have a way of logging. Than they are all easy. :)
RayArroyo
07-07-2007, 01:09 AM
Um, they have a digital face too.




No offense, but tuning with an AEM UEGO is so easy it's not funny.

1st of all the gauge is allways all over the damn place moving and there is no way to control the feedback, also most loggers do not have the aem wideband support. dont get me wrong they work pretty well but they are more of a gauge than a tuning tool to me. i do sell a **** load of them though.
drew
07-07-2007, 08:01 AM
i love my zeitronix

i can't believe the bad review it got..
99SL2_Modder
07-07-2007, 08:34 AM
1st of all the gauge is allways all over the damn place moving and there is no way to control the feedback, also most loggers do not have the aem wideband support. dont get me wrong they work pretty well but they are more of a gauge than a tuning tool to me. i do sell a **** load of them though.

I've never had a problem with the gauges skipping like a schoolgirl like that. If it was the old version, they had an issue with them.
TurboTagTeam
07-07-2007, 01:40 PM
I'v used over 20 of them little bastards on customers cars. THe stupid lights are incredibly anoying. That's why I use a PLX M300 on all my own personal cars. Little anoying lights are useless for tunning, all I'm after is a number.
99SL2_Modder
07-07-2007, 02:14 PM
I'v used over 20 of them little bastards on customers cars. THe stupid lights are incredibly anoying. That's why I use a PLX M300 on all my own personal cars. Little anoying lights are useless for tunning, all I'm after is a number.

I like both. And it has both. Annoying lights keep me awake.
SoStock92
07-10-2007, 03:25 PM
Personally use Innovate products.

Teh Dirt the Zeitronix telephone/cat5 cable cracks me up - I had one fall apart in my hand once.


LC-1, dual analog outputs, digital serial output, logging, and $199.... can't beat it. And it's small and built to be mounted in or out of the car.
enigma
07-10-2007, 10:45 PM
Im thinking of getting one of them, i already have the LM1 with auxbox, but i'd like something permanant for the talon, i can use the LM1 to tune the carb'd cars.
SoStock92
07-11-2007, 12:22 AM
Definitely consider the LC-1 especially if you have Innovate stuff already.
JeEvE
07-11-2007, 10:14 AM
The methods they used to perform their tests seem like they would not get accurate results. I went from a PLX M300 to an Innovate XD-16 kit. I did have both in the car at the same time to see how different the readings were and they were no where near +/- 1.00 AFR. The M300 was reliable and very easy to setup. My XD-16 came with a LC-1 DOA, they sent me a new one and its been working fine up until a few days ago its been givining me crazy readings at WOT.