what should i swap into my volvo

[rocknrace03]

hello tristate,

some of you have probably seen my build thread on my volvo, i was swapping a 4 cylinder turbo engine into the car, but I'm having driveline issues at the moment and although there are solutions available some are costly and simple while others are cheap and complex, not to mention the standalone to run the engine is very very expensive.

i was going to sell the car, but not even after a week filled of 250$ offers and insults i have decided to finish what i started, but id like to go another route

so what engine belongs in this beast? only limitations are, available cheaply, and simple factory wiring harness if fuel injection, or carbureted. the engine bay is fairly large.

keep in mind that this car is a full frame vehicle, so cutting of the body is not that big of a deal. biggest engine I've seen in one was a 302 ford engine

pics of the cross member as requested

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the black marks where the suspension arms come out

[OutToWinPAHC]

Glad because your on a roll right now. Any EFI RWD swap would be easy to put in this, if you can fab mounts and do some basic wiring. You need to show good photos of the crossmember and then look at motors available. However a beams 3S-GE or SR20DET are some of the cheaper ways to go. The Beams is a high compression NA motor but pretty bad ass.

[rocknrace03]

fabrication is not an issue, as thats the field ill be entering this summer, beams engine looks sick, but whats the availability? i was hoping for something i could pull at a junk yard, but i wouldn't be opposed picking up an engine trans combo if it was the right price and had a simple harness that basically needed power and ground hooked up. major problem with the volvo engine is that the factory engine harness is tied in to the entire harness, making it almost impossible to pull apart

[OutToWinPAHC]

Oh it's not going to be in the junkyard but you can get them fairly cheap. Under 3K, and they are newer with ITB's, 11.5:1 Compression, easy to wire up, variable timing. So your more likely to get a good healty motor.

Plus junk yard motors.... theres a reason it there.

[O2SpecV]

turboed s2k motor? sr20t?

[Bdub215]

Can't go wrong with a 7M-GTE.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Might be too long for that car, but toyota puts the exhaust on the pass side so thats a win for when making a downpipe work, no rack issues

[JB'sLGT]

I'd go with the 302. There are a ton out there and can be had for dirt cheap. You could buy an entire Mustang 5.0 parts car for $2k or less.

[schaffer]

302.
Chevy truck motor(talk to the sloppy mechanics.)

[rocknrace03]

I'm thinking 302 as well, i actually almost had a 96 mustang with the 4.6 to take everything from, but the deal fell through, and I'm kind of glad actually,id really try to get away from efi, with the 302 I'm just worried about the front end being too heavy, id still like to be able to actually drive my car instead of just driving it. I've been looking into a v6 engine, but its hard to find information about the carb'd v6's anyone have any info?

[SHOdude]

Your only really gonna find carb'd straight six's link out of a 70's nova. Or look into the SHO motor you can get them for $300 and they are bullet proof once you change the rod bearings, their like 550lbs and put out like 240hp stock, and if you get rid of the factory Y-pipe crush bend thats another 25hp with a proper tune. Teres lots of info putting them in rwd cars too

[jesus_ralliart]

ls1.... make it a volvette

[PunkboySL2]

LSx motor

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[01 Trans-Am WS6]

LSX :eek:

[NowThatsG]

drop in over on swedespeed.com, I'm sure there is someone over there that could help you more.

[Seven]

4.8 or 5.3 Chevy LS-based truck motor. Swap to a stock LS1 intake to clear the hood. Probably will be cheaper than any other option and make more power reliably

[94503]

ls motor for sure look at what denmah has done cheap

[Diablo2424]

Volvette if possible. Hands down.

[Chris B.]

If you want a light weight motor so that the car can still handle, its probably not hard to swap in a Ford Zetec. They were popular motors for use in RWD Lotous 7 and Caterham kit cars. They are inexpensive in salvage yards, and their aftermarket is large. There are several RWD Ford and Tremec transmission options. Not as large of an aftermarket as a Honda B series of course, but you can get parts easily to build it up to a 300 HP naturally aspirated motor or a high powered turbo motor. You can also go with carbs or ITB's or a factory fuel injection setup.

[g0dzuki]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBu6STlhh8Q


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[CleanNeon98]

If you want a light weight motor so that the car can still handle, its probably not hard to swap in a Ford Zetec. They were popular motors for use in RWD Lotous 7 and Caterham kit cars. They are inexpensive in salvage yards, and their aftermarket is large. There are several RWD Ford and Tremec transmission options. Not as large of an aftermarket as a Honda B series of course, but you can get parts easily to build it up to a 300 HP naturally aspirated motor or a high powered turbo motor. You can also go with carbs or ITB's or a factory fuel injection setup.
Why do that if you can get over 300hp stock from a vette engine, and probbably be an easier swap overall cause tons of people have done it so hell have plenty of info on the web to guide with.

[g0dzuki]

Why do that if you can get over 300hp stock from a vette engine, and probbably be an easier swap overall cause tons of people have done it so hell have plenty of info on the web to guide with.

agreed


depends on what you want to do at the end of the day


best bang for your buck?

or

something "cool", "custom" and "different"


depends on how deep your pockets are!

[JB'sLGT]

He's building a Volvo 1800...rest assured, no matter what engine he puts in it, it'll be cool, custom, and different. lol

[g0dzuki]

True that

either way it should be a fun build

could go another way which would probably be an old school chevy v8

[Chris B.]

Why do that if you can get over 300hp stock from a vette engine, and probbably be an easier swap overall cause tons of people have done it so hell have plenty of info on the web to guide with.

Because the vette engine will weigh more and put much more weight on the nose anead of the front wheels having a negative effect on handling, if he is concerned about handling. A small 4 cylinder will have less weight ahead of the front tires.

[CleanNeon98]

Aluminum LS engines aren't that heavy, and not crazy longer than Inline 4 either. Besides, he's gonna have weight over the front wheels anyway, just how close the strut towers are to the firewall

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3788/3421/21969210241_large.jpg

Different strokes for different folks I guess

[Badsupra111]

2jzgte would be awesome

[g0dzuki]

oh yes...2j would be dope actually

the most beautiful sounding volvo lol

[PAdutch]

2jz would be cool

carburated 350 would be simple as far as wiring and cheap.

Given how unique the car is... How about a rotary?:eek:

[rocknrace03]

thanks for the input, rotary would be bad ass! but idk about reliability and cost effectiveness. I'm leaning towards either a "sloppy mechanics" swap (4.8 or 5.3 LS engine) or just a carb'd 350/302 engine. i just talked to the local hot rot swap. mounts would be out of my hands since my welder isn't strong enough to make mounts strong enough for that engine. they told me between 4-600$ to mount the engine and trans, and i would do the rest. not terrible at all. thanks again. you can continue to make suggestions, but the project won't begin again til june or so. thanks again!

[Scapegoat]

350/302 would be the down right pussy way out. you know those projects that everything was done so incredibly well, and then there is one small detail that has been over looked or done poorly?

a carbed 350 or 302 would ruin it. if you're going carb'd, get a big block, tube the rear end.

[Badsupra111]

Jdm 2jz / auto trans. Or r154 for cheap manual route

[rocknrace03]

im leaning towards an LS swap, i just got off the phone with the guys over at LSx4U.com and i can get a 5.3 vortech with a 4l60e trans with the stand alone harness to control both fuel injection and transmission for around 2500$ shipped to my door. you just need to apply voltage from ignition switch to the harness, tach, speedometer, ground and a lock up switch with your brake pedal. and of course wire up a starter circuit.

[MPowerKai]

no wonder you didn't email me :P

[rocknrace03]

no wonder you didn't email me :P

yeah, sorry i was going to let you know tonight actually haha, but the more i thought about parting with it, the more it saddened me, i gotta stick with it:mrgreen:

[skalor]

I'm picking up a 142 soon and will be swapping in a 4.8 most likely.

[300zx_tt]

I think itd be cool to stay Volvo with the power plant, the s80 came in a T6 which was a turbo 3.0l or the 99-03 came with a 2.8l turbo. Since youre into doing a lot of fab work you could do an s60R swap and make it AWD which I think would be 10x cooler than throwing a v8 under the hood but its your call, I'm sure you know but you need deep pockets for Volvo parts so it may not be doable

[jpalamar]

I'd find a better platform.