View Full Version : 370z or Mustang 5.0?
Z-WHIZ
02-25-2011, 05:02 AM
Trying to decide between the two right now. The Mustang has the edge in power while the 370 has a small edge in handling. What do you guys think? I'm very torn.
Asif22
02-25-2011, 07:28 AM
As much as I HATE mustangs and LOVE the 370z...I would say go with the 5.0.
Ford really did this car right.
c0nfl1kt
02-25-2011, 07:30 AM
Have you test driven a new 5.0? They are quite nimble for a heavy american car.
Asif22
02-25-2011, 07:41 AM
Have you test driven a new 5.0? They are quite nimble for a heavy american car.
I hear its on par with the m3
mcperson2k
02-25-2011, 08:35 AM
Friend just got the new 5.0 last week, it's killer. However the 370 is one of my favorite cars so I vote that!
Bates
02-25-2011, 08:46 AM
At the end of the day it is one classic heritage car vs. another classic heritage car. Naturally, being a Nissan and a Z guy, I would suggest the Z34, but not knowing enough about the new 5.0s, I really can't give my opinion.
jpalamar
02-25-2011, 09:19 AM
I drove and liked both. PROs of the 370Z were looks and the interior was really nice. CONs were too much electronic controls. It felt like cheating to drive it. Mustang will outdo the 370Z in just about every catigory and in the long run will be much cheaper to maintain since Mustangs are a dime a dozen.
I'd buy both but if I lean towards Mustang for the back seats(as small as they are you will miss having them in the 370).
98GSXdude
02-25-2011, 10:04 AM
I've had four Z's, but I vote 'stang.
HickRocket1258
02-25-2011, 10:04 AM
Wasn't there just another thread about this?
I would say 5.0. Power potential out of the box is just stupid silly.
KustomZ03
02-25-2011, 10:15 AM
stang
Scapegoat
02-25-2011, 10:43 AM
the 2011 mustang 5.0 is THE CAR to be buying new right now unless you need AWD or a 4 door, or have more than 40k to spend... or you just don't like the car
PAdutch
02-25-2011, 10:56 AM
I really never liked Mustangs, but the new 5.0 is really nice and gets my vote. Can't go wrong with a V8 that can turn.
Chopper17
02-25-2011, 11:10 AM
The new 5.0 hands down. Just read a article in the fast ford and mustang magazine and kennebell and tons of other companys are coming out with products for them. They are laying down good numbers for stock motors also!
ndubz
02-25-2011, 11:13 AM
If it was me, Id have to go with the Mustang. I love the Z, but i just find myself wanting more from it. And the mustang doesnt handle badly at all. I hear the new one is actually very composed.
Erik@R/TTuning
02-25-2011, 11:26 AM
I totally respect and dig the new 5.0L but I LOVE the 370Z. It could be a worse car and I'd still be drawn to it for some reason.
Schepis
02-25-2011, 11:40 AM
370. Everyone has Mustangs. I respect the new 5.0, but I wouldn't be caught dead owning it.
240sxDann
02-25-2011, 11:41 AM
They basically covered all the bases. 5.0 all the way. I'm biased though.
CrazySC
02-25-2011, 11:53 AM
Definitely a 5.0; so much power and the mods are endless. Heck, the V6 with a tune will give a lot of other V8's a run
Sublime1304
02-25-2011, 11:59 AM
Mustang...if you wanna be like everyone else
I hate mustangs (sorry Ken). Period. mainly cuz of the people who drive them. Ok maybe not everyone is a jerk off cocky little bastard behind the wheel of them but a lot
Sublime1304
02-25-2011, 12:02 PM
Although I did get a thumbs up from a guy in a mustang last night which I thought was odd
Godofelru
02-25-2011, 12:05 PM
Every car brand has people who shouldn't be allowed to drive because of how unintelligent they are. Honda's & Ford's get the nastiest rep, but only because they're the majority. I've seen tons of idiots in Dodges & Nissans too and that's what you and I drive, but I don't hate them for it? That would be silly.
Back to topic - The 5.0 is ridiculous. Ultimately I would go for whichever one I could get cheaper and whoever has the best service areas. Mod friendly? Price? etc.
jpalamar
02-25-2011, 12:06 PM
Definitely a 5.0; so much power and the mods are endless. Heck, the V6 with a tune will give a lot of other V8's a run
I would actually rock a V6 A6 Mustang with a good tune. Its still a really nice machine.
Mustang...if you wanna be like everyone else
I hate mustangs (sorry Ken). Period. mainly cuz of the people who drive them. Ok maybe not everyone is a jerk off cocky little bastard behind the wheel of them but a lot
:faceplam:
Sublime1304
02-25-2011, 12:09 PM
Every car brand has people who shouldn't be allowed to drive because of how unintelligent they are. Honda's & Ford's get the nastiest rep, but only because they're the majority. I've seen tons of idiots in Dodges & Nissans too and that's what you and I drive, but I don't hate them for it? That would be silly.
Back to topic - The 5.0 is ridiculous. Ultimately I would go for whichever one I could get cheaper and whoever has the best service areas. Mod friendly? Price? etc.
I agree with that. But I've had some experience with mustang guys. I'm not a fan. Because it's so popular, people think they're the best ****. But that's just me
Sublime1304
02-25-2011, 12:25 PM
Now that I think of it, the only kind of mustang I like is the older gt500s. That's it
jrkal
02-25-2011, 12:37 PM
I'd pick the Z and start saving up for that twin turbo kit baby.
~170whp on 6psi...
jjm4life
02-25-2011, 12:37 PM
i need to drive a 5.0 but i wasnt even remotely impressed by the Z. felt huge and clunky (drove it before i owned the lotus. now everything feels huge and clunky)
mcperson2k
02-25-2011, 12:38 PM
Its okay Sublime, the majority of the guys I know in Chargers are PIGS... :lol: See what I did there?
Fujito
02-25-2011, 12:54 PM
What do you want from the car?
The 5.0 makes sense if you want to go fast, and go much faster for cheaper. The 370Z is expensive to mod and once you do throw a turbo in there it's a ticking time bomb unless you build the motor. You'll also be required to buy a big brake kit, coilovers, and Volks before you are accepted on my350 :lol:.
I'd honestly get the 370Z for aesthetic reasons. You can call me ricer all you want, but I think the car looks like sex and it has JAYDEEEM aftermarket support. I'd probably end up spending $50,000 on it, but damn that'd be one hot ass 370Z.
Sublime1304
02-25-2011, 01:17 PM
Its okay Sublime, the majority of the guys I know in Chargers are PIGS... :lol: See what I did there?
Yea we have some. But overall we are generally good people
slowZ
02-25-2011, 01:17 PM
I have a 370 if u went to the car show mine was the all black one in the dub room its a great car I have beat my friends 5.0 at the track n I personally like my handling better ad well
slowZ
02-25-2011, 01:18 PM
ggranite his was a stock 5.0 n I have bolt ons
slowZ
02-25-2011, 01:20 PM
and like fugito said they are very expensive to modify
mcperson2k
02-25-2011, 01:58 PM
Yea we have some. But overall we are generally good people
Talking about the popo dude! The 5-0
jrkal
02-25-2011, 02:04 PM
yeah but they get lame vee six's
tylerinc
02-25-2011, 02:23 PM
love the 370 but the amount of performance things that will come out for the 5.0 and what you will be able to do with it will be greater then a 370... so it really depends what you want out of your car... i vote 5.0
DaveSTi
02-25-2011, 02:29 PM
I haven't driven the 370z yet, but the 350 always felt just like a Mustang to me, except without the power and with a little bit tighter gearbox.
I like the looks of the 370z better than the Mustang, but the Mustang trumps the 370 all-around when it comes to performance. You'll also have THE largest aftermarket to choose parts from and a ridiculous amount of support. Plus, Ford dealers are a lot better about modified Mustangs than my experience has been with any other brand. The factory aftermarket support for the car is another plus, on top of the factory race cars they commission.
If I were buying TODAY...I'd probably buy a 5.0 and this is coming from a guy who had a Mustang for 5 years and swore off Ford for good.
AutobahnRacer
02-25-2011, 02:30 PM
friend bought a 5.0. Worth every penny in my opinion. Get the 5.0, 370 is also cool but 5.0 is cooler.
Slevin
02-25-2011, 02:32 PM
the 2011 mustang 5.0 is THE CAR to be buying new right now unless you need AWD or a 4 door, or have more than 40k to spend... or you just don't like the car
what this guy said
Eclipse GSX 61
02-25-2011, 02:34 PM
370Z with the Amuse kit gets my vote: :eek:
http://image.modified.com/f/28295746/modp_1004_03_o+2010_nissan_370z+side_skirts.jpg
http://tunerzine.com/coverage/359/images/tas_2010_183.jpg
Sublime1304
02-25-2011, 02:35 PM
Talking about the popo dude! The 5-0
I get thumbs up all the time from them
They aren't all V6s either
jrkal
02-25-2011, 02:55 PM
I get thumbs up all the time from them
They aren't all V6s either
Highway ones aren't but the typical patrol cars (philly) are. They still have dual exhaust tho
tree-fiddy
02-25-2011, 03:02 PM
as everyone else has mentioned, parts in general are more expensive for the z than the mustang. I really like my z and don't regret buying it at all. it depends on what type of driving you like to do. if you like going fast in a straight line, go with the mustang... if you like road track racing, get the z. also take into account that you don't have a back seat with the z, which I miss sometimes.
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Zdrummer15
02-25-2011, 03:04 PM
I think the fact that people who drive imports, GM's, and Fords are all recommending the Mustang says a lot in itself. Ford did the current car right. Both the V6 and 5.0 are great cars for the money and the 5.0 is without a doubt the best performance car in its price range. I really do like the 370Z's quite a bit, but I would never be able to pick one over the new 5.0 Mustang.
tylerinc
02-25-2011, 03:05 PM
as everyone else has mentioned, parts in general are more expensive for the z than the mustang. I really like my z and don't regret buying it at all. it depends on what type of driving you like to do. if you like going fast in a straight line, go with the mustang... if you like road track racing, get the z. also take into account that you don't have a back seat with the z, which I miss sometimes.
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they have set the stang up for better handling.. the old ones blew
nuTinmuch
02-25-2011, 03:13 PM
370 guy posting in this thread, buy the 370 mustangs are awful
(Just kidding)
The 370 is a sort of niche car. It isn't the fastest, it doesn't handle the best, but it looks pretty good and has a decent amount of power.
They are reliable. I don't know of any major problems with them, although if you do plan on tracking the car you will have to buy an oil cooler (as well as the other typical pre-track things, pads, ss lines, etc.).
The aftermarket is there, but it isn't very big. Likewise, if you insist on buying JDM stuff, you're going to spend money out your ass... and you won't be gaining anything over non-JDM stuff.
I've heard a lot (in this thread and basically everywhere else) about the 370 being expensive to mod in general -- it isn't. It also responds to light mods relatively well, for a NA car. A CBE will get you to 290WHP, throw in another light breathing mod and a tune and you'll see 305~ish, typically. Sure, you won't get much higher than that without some serious cash, but that is mostly due to VVEL blocking a lot of options for the car. That'll eventually be cracked, though.
If you are looking to go FI, plan to spend at least $15k+ for a proper setup. As with any car, the sky is the limit if you have the cash.
With light boost or a SC, you won't have to built the engine though, so there's that.
Also, I saw someone claiming that the 370 has a lot of electronic assists? wat? It doesn't have any more than any other car these days. You can turn basically all of them off, too. The VDC button is right there!
Personal opinions on the car's driving experience?
The steering feel is great. The driving position is one of the best out there, imo.
The VQ is still the best sounding V6 on the market -- with an exhaust it sounds awesome. Go YouTube Fast Intentions, HKS, Amuse, Berk or AAM.
Now, for the Mustang...
A handful of 370 owners switched to the Mustang. It's an amazing car. If it was out when I bought the Z, I would've seriously considered it.
Which would I buy right now? That is a hard choice. If I could "switch" cars without losing a dime, I'd probably do it... but I have a feeling that is grass is greener syndrome.
Here's my advice: Test drive both. Ignore everything else. Don't buy a car because of what people on a message board tell you that haven't driven either car.
I strongly suggest poking through the370z.com for more info on the Z, though. Just please don't post a comparison thread, for the love of god.
edit: also, both are cheap to maintain. it's a car, but they are both reliable.
Scapegoat
02-25-2011, 03:20 PM
they have set the stang up for better handling.. the old ones blew
2010+ have the same suspension. actually they share the bullitt suspension. and the 2010 is pretty much the bullitt with a different body.
i do wish i waited for the 2011 to come out before buying... but then again i did price up a new gt for 8k more than i spent on mine...
if i were new car shopping again i'd probably wait for the boss 302 which spanks the m3 and will come in in the 40k range as long as dealers don't mark it up a bunch.
slowZ
02-25-2011, 03:25 PM
The 370 is for strait line to that's actually what I'm building my z to do strictly drag racing out of the box my z was a great fun car to drive but it comes down to preference and insurance was cheaper on the z then the 5.0 just another thing to take into consideration
nuTinmuch
02-25-2011, 03:29 PM
The 370 is for strait line to that's actually what I'm building my z to do strictly drag racing out of the box my z was a great fun car to drive but it comes down to preference and insurance was cheaper on the z then the 5.0 just another thing to take into consideration
If you want to drag and you buy a 370 over a 5.0, then you are beyond all help.
Also the insurance can't be that much cheaper. When I cross shopped the Camaro/STi/Evo/370/135i they all were basically the same, +/- a few bucks.
if i were new car shopping again i'd probably wait for the boss 302 which spanks the m3 and will come in in the 40k range as long as dealers don't mark it up a bunch.
Pffft, the 5.0 with $500 in suspension mods could probably edge out the M3. In Motor Trend's test it was like, what, .002 behind?
Also http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/24/2012-ford-mustang-boss-302-laguna-seca-first-drive-review/
do want do want do want do want
Scapegoat
02-25-2011, 03:37 PM
well yeah. the 5.0 with barely anything done is going to eek out the M3... but the boss 302 is much more than that. it decimates the M3. not to mention it's just badassery all around
hulkster
02-25-2011, 03:43 PM
id personally take the Z. it has enough power/torque to keep me happy.id just throw some simple bolt ons,lower it and call it a day.its just so damn sexy. not saying its a better car as the new mustang is unbelievable.
slowZ
02-25-2011, 03:47 PM
I didn't buy it for drag but after driving it for a couple years. I'm goin to build it for drag setup and I have Allstate n I t was about 200 cheaper a month the the 09 mustang if u need a good insurance.agent ill give u mines name
SleeperGoat
02-25-2011, 06:29 PM
Good god your guys insurances sound high lol. I pay 98 bucks for full coverage on my GTO. The Z when I had it was only 165 the 2 seater will increase insurance over a car that sets 4 .
Sublime1304
02-25-2011, 06:34 PM
Mine is $300 a month lol
DTownHemiD
02-25-2011, 06:39 PM
Mustang
Godofelru
02-25-2011, 06:45 PM
as everyone else has mentioned, parts in general are more expensive for the z than the mustang. I really like my z and don't regret buying it at all. it depends on what type of driving you like to do. if you like going fast in a straight line, go with the mustang... if you like road track racing, get the z. also take into account that you don't have a back seat with the z, which I miss sometimes.
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This is the kind of talk that just makes me shake my head. You do know that the new GT's handling is extremely competitive with a 370 right? Get with the times, this isn't 2004.
SleeperGoat
02-25-2011, 06:52 PM
Mine is $300 a month lol
I'm old lol my camaro was 200 something when I was younger.
JSpecV03
02-25-2011, 07:05 PM
basically i would ask your self these questions, what are your plans for the car, whats the cost of aftermarket parts for each, and whats gonna have a higher resale value if you decide to trade it in on something else down the road.
like another person wrote up above somewhere, test drive both and pick which one you like better based on your own opinions.
me personally, am really im pressed with the new mustangs, the v8 and the v6. ive sat in the new 370 and the new mustang before and the mustang felt better to me, not cuz it had comfy seats, but for the better visability in blind spot areas. but i did not drive either.
just my .02 cents.
FocusDude
02-25-2011, 07:18 PM
five oh
HickRocket1258
02-25-2011, 08:16 PM
I have a 370 if u went to the car show mine was the all black one in the dub room its a great car I have beat my friends 5.0 at the track n I personally like my handling better ad well
Did you friend not know how to drive?
All seriousness, not only can the mustang keep on the drag strip but also on the road courses as well. The suspension has become top notch anymore.
Did you friend not know how to drive?
All seriousness, not only can the mustang keep on the drag strip but also on the road courses as well. The suspension has become top notch anymore.
^ Exactly. Its not everything, but they pull the same thing on the skid pad (.94g). I'd chose the Mustang TBH and I love both cars.
Z-WHIZ
02-25-2011, 10:27 PM
Thanks for the advice so far guys. I just got back from test driving both, I test drove the 370 followed by the Mustang. Below are my impressions:
370z (Base w/ Sport package):
Coming from a 350, I kind of knew what to expect, but the car definitely impressed me. The interior was a big step up from the 350 and I loved the feel of the cockpit. Power was good, especially in the top end, but it did feel a little sluggish down low. Handling was amazing, it felt like it was on rails. All in all, I came away very impressed.
Mustang (GT w/ Premium)
First thing that stuck out for me on this car was how great it looks in black, very aggressive. Also, just like the Z, the interior was near luxury level on the premium to my surprise. Power delivery is very linear, but in a good way - there is literally power everywhere in the rpm band. While the 370 felt fast, the 5.0 felt noticeably faster - it is a beast. The one thing I was worried about was the handling, but I have to say it handles very well. Steering was tight and there was very little body roll. I wouldn't put the handling on par with the 370, but it isn't that far behind either.
Overall, I have to say these are both amazing vehicles, but in my opinion the Mustang just can't be beat, especially for the price. It has the power, the refinement, and even the handling. I'm going to sleep on the decision, but I'm def leaning towards the 5.0 at this point.
Chris B.
02-26-2011, 12:03 PM
I owned three Mustangs in my life, but I'm not brand loyal. I've owned cars from Ford, Oldsmobile, Plymouth, Porsche, and soem of my daily drivers were made by Geo, Volvo, and Chevrolet. I admit that I am a fan of the newer 2005+ Mustangs, especially after owning one for a few years and having plenty of fun with it.
Thanks for the advice so far guys. I just got back from test driving both, I test drove the 370 followed by the Mustang. Below are my impressions:
370z (Base w/ Sport package):
Coming from a 350, I kind of knew what to expect, but the car definitely impressed me. The interior was a big step up from the 350 and I loved the feel of the cockpit. Power was good, especially in the top end, but it did feel a little sluggish down low. Handling was amazing, it felt like it was on rails. All in all, I came away very impressed.
Mustang (GT w/ Premium)
First thing that stuck out for me on this car was how great it looks in black, very aggressive. Also, just like the Z, the interior was near luxury level on the premium to my surprise. Power delivery is very linear, but in a good way - there is literally power everywhere in the rpm band. While the 370 felt fast, the 5.0 felt noticeably faster - it is a beast. The one thing I was worried about was the handling, but I have to say it handles very well. Steering was tight and there was very little body roll. I wouldn't put the handling on par with the 370, but it isn't that far behind either.
Overall, I have to say these are both amazing vehicles, but in my opinion the Mustang just can't be beat, especially for the price. It has the power, the refinement, and even the handling. I'm going to sleep on the decision, but I'm def leaning towards the 5.0 at this point.
Before I bought my 2008 Mustang GT, I test drove everythng between 20,000 and $40,000 that I was interested in including the 350Z, WRX STI, WRX, Mazdaspeed3 Volvo C30, and CPO 3 series BMW 330 coupes and ended up with the Mustang. Its a great car. I considered buying a 2011 5.0 and test drove a few newer cars to compare them including the 370Z. I'd still get the 2011 5.0.
I felt similar about the 370Z and 2011 5.0 GT. The 370Z had a very nice interior. However, I was use to the wide powerband of my 2008 GT. I can drive along in 5th gear at 30 MPH and 800 RPM and press down the cas pedal and the car doesn't bog. It immediately starts acceelrating. I can't do that in the 370Z. Yes, I know people will say shift to a lower gear, but in slower moving city traffic, its nice that I have the option to be lazy in the Mustang. The 2011 5.0 has even more low end power. I find that much mroe convenient than the 370Z for being my daily driver.
The interior on the Mustang is very nice, especially with the leather. When I was car shopping in 2008 and saw the interior of the Mustang with leater I was impressed. I expected it to be as bland and boring as the Fox Bodies and SN95 cars. When I test drove the 2011 GT, I felt the interior was very nice and comparable to the other cars in that price range.
Go fast parts and some routine maintenance parts for the Mustang will be less expensive. There is a large and competitive aftermarket industry for the Mustang that helps keep parts prices low. Also, you can add a 525 HP supercharger kit from FRPP to the 2011 GT 5.0 and keep your full bumper to bumper warranty. Does Nissan have a similar option for 500+ HP?
the 2011 mustang 5.0 is THE CAR to be buying new right now unless you need AWD or a 4 door, or have more than 40k to spend... or you just don't like the car
That pretty much sums it up.
as everyone else has mentioned, parts in general are more expensive for the z than the mustang. I really like my z and don't regret buying it at all. it depends on what type of driving you like to do. if you like going fast in a straight line, go with the mustang... if you like road track racing, get the z. also take into account that you don't have a back seat with the z, which I miss sometimes.
I disagree with that. If you want to go fast in a straight line get the 2011 GT 5.0. If you want a fast autoX and track day car, get the 2011 GT 5.0.
If anyone questions the Mustang's handling, read these comparisons:
BMW vs M3 on a race track:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comp arison/index.html
Yes, the same lap times as an M3 (0.09 second difference) with a pro driver and with a non professional driver, the Mustang was faster than the M3 by over half a second.
Throw a $597 set of Koni Sports on the Mustang and it resolved the issue of the stock shocks in the Mustang that the pro driver mentioned.
http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetails.php?PartID=197&CategoryID=199&ModelID=35
Lightning Lap:
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q4/lightning_lap_2011-feature
2011 Mustang GT 3:08.6
Nizmo 370Z 3:12.0 - then the brakes failed without warning and it drove straight into a wall.
The 2011 GT beat the Lotus Elise, C6 Z51 Corvette, Porsche Cayman S, BMW M6, BMW 335i, Lancer Evo SE, 2007 Shelby GT500, Audi RS4, and BMW Z4M coupe.
The V6 Mustang ran the same times as the Nissan 350Z track (3:12.5) while it was bouncing off the speed limiter for 15 seconds per lap. A V6 Mustang with the speed limiter removes is probably much faster than the Nizmo 370Z.
370. Everyone has Mustangs. I respect the new 5.0, but I wouldn't be caught dead owning it.
Buying a car jsut to be different never made sense to me. Some cars sell well because they have many good attributes and many people want one. If you want to buy a car to be different that not many people own, why don't you drive a Suzuki Kizashi? :lol:
I'd pick the Z and start saving up for that twin turbo kit baby.
~170whp on 6psi...
With 6 PSI from a Vortec supercharger the 2011 5.0 puts down 577 HP at the wheels. That's a gain of about 200 HP at the wheels over stock.
I've heard a lot (in this thread and basically everywhere else) about the 370 being expensive to mod in general -- it isn't. It also responds to light mods relatively well, for a NA car. A CBE will get you to 290WHP, throw in another light breathing mod and a tune and you'll see 305~ish, typically. Sure, you won't get much higher than that without some serious cash, but that is mostly due to VVEL blocking a lot of options for the car. That'll eventually be cracked, though.
So basically the 370Z has the same power stock and with mild bolt ons as a 2011 V6 Mustang or a 2005-2010 Mustang GT with the 3 valve 4.6 and 100 less HP at the wheels than a 2011 Mustang GT with similar mods.
Sublime1304
02-26-2011, 12:14 PM
I'm brand loyal because it just happened that way. I'm on my third dodge and I love mopar. However, I'm not one to say nothing beats mopar. I in fact love foreign cars and considered some before I found my other charger
SpEcRv9
02-26-2011, 12:14 PM
370. Everyone has Mustangs. I respect the new 5.0, but I wouldn't be caught dead owning it.
didn't you own a neon at one point?
nuTinmuch
02-26-2011, 04:34 PM
So basically the 370Z has the same power stock and with mild bolt ons as a 2011 V6 Mustang or a 2005-2010 Mustang GT with the 3 valve 4.6 and 100 less HP at the wheels than a 2011 Mustang GT with similar mods.
You're correct, but I'm not sure what point you are making. I wasn't comparing the 370 and Mustang with that sentence. I guess if you take it out of context it can look like that -- but really, I was just saying there are worthy power mods out there for the 370 that won't break the bank. That's all.
I mean, if you'd like I can acknowledge that you can make more power in the 5.0 for less money. It won't harm my argument, though.
Also, you can add a 525 HP supercharger kit from FRPP to the 2011 GT 5.0 and keep your full bumper to bumper warranty. Does Nissan have a similar option for 500+ HP?
While this was asked rhetorically, some Nissan dealers are authorized to install a Stillen kit (with a warranty) that puts down 430~whp. Obviously this is short of 500, but the 370 is obviously much lower stock.
With that said, it is a POS and if you buy it you are awful.
All of that aside...
If you buy a 5.0: http://www.truecar.com/prices-new/ford/mustang-pricing/2011/77C8333D/
Look at that. Look. BEST LOCAL PRICE: $26,835
26 grand for something that will keep up with an M3. Hell, if you have M3 money just buy two of them.
Chris B.
02-26-2011, 06:09 PM
You're correct, but I'm not sure what point you are making. I wasn't comparing the 370 and Mustang with that sentence. I guess if you take it out of context it can look like that -- but really, I was just saying there are worthy power mods out there for the 370 that won't break the bank. That's all.
Its something you posted in a thread that is discussing both cars. Why wouldn't it be used as a comparison?
I mean, if you'd like I can acknowledge that you can make more power in the 5.0 for less money. It won't harm my argument, though.
To bring a 370Z up to near the stock power levels, or the power to weight, of the 5.0 Mustang GT is costly.
While this was asked rhetorically, some Nissan dealers are authorized to install a Stillen kit (with a warranty) that puts down 430~whp. Obviously this is short of 500, but the 370 is obviously much lower stock.
That's not bad as far as power goes. How much does the Stillen kit cost?
With that said, it is a POS and if you buy it you are awful.
All of that aside...
If you buy a 5.0: http://www.truecar.com/prices-new/ford/mustang-pricing/2011/77C8333D/
Look at that. Look. BEST LOCAL PRICE: $26,835
26 grand for something that will keep up with an M3. Hell, if you have M3 money just buy two of them.
If I could find a 2011 GT with the same options as my 2008 and the Brembo brakes package for a reasonable price, I'd consider getting one. Its getting near the end of the model year and gas prices are up. Its a good time to find a great deal on a performance car. For the price of a new M3, you can buy a 2011 GT with the brembo brake pacakge and 3.73 gears, a trailer, and a used pickup for a tow vehicle/daily driver along with having money left over for wheels tires, brake pads, etc... If you wanted a streetable track car, its not a bad deal.
nuTinmuch
02-26-2011, 06:33 PM
That's not bad as far as power goes. How much does the Stillen kit cost?
6k from Stillen, I'm not sure how much a dealer would charge to have it installed, though.
To bring a 370Z up to near the stock power levels, or the power to weight, of the 5.0 Mustang GT is costly.
I agree. For that much, you could have a GT-R. In fact, most people who go that route actually are ex GT-R owners who want RWD, basically.
In a perfect world, the 370 would come TT'd from the factory, but that is a pipe dream in reality.
SleeperGoat
02-26-2011, 08:44 PM
6k from Stillen, I'm not sure how much a dealer would charge to have it installed, though.
I agree. For that much, you could have a GT-R. In fact, most people who go that route actually are ex GT-R owners who want RWD, basically.
In a perfect world, the 370 would come TT'd from the factory, but that is a pipe dream in reality.
Nissan told me 1500 for install on my 350 when I had it but I almost had a vortech for it for 3100 but I decided to sell it. The superchargers you could find for a good price if bought used I remember a lot of them being up for 2800-4k.
my vote goes to 370z.. she can do more than just go straight..
my vote goes to 370z.. she can do more than just go straight..
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Bubba Ho-Tep
02-26-2011, 10:18 PM
ggranite his was a stock 5.0 n I have bolt ons
Say what?
http://www.beg.utexas.edu/mainweb/publications/graphics/granite-400.jpg
OMGz Turbo
02-26-2011, 11:11 PM
my vote goes to 370z.. she can do more than just go straight..
So you have just openly admitted that you haven't read one review, write up, or basically ANY post in this thread.
Congrats.
I personally dig the 5.0's just because i like the styling and power. I think the 370 is aggressive looking too, its just not my bag of tricks
Chris B.
02-26-2011, 11:33 PM
my vote goes to 370z.. she can do more than just go straight..
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So you have just openly admitted that you haven't read one review, write up, or basically ANY post in this thread....
um no.. reading anyone elses post does not help sway my opinion either way...
opinion is just that opinion.. regardless of others post..
my opinion does not validate or invalidate anyone elses.. its just mine..
no offense intended with the mustang owners..
:wiggle:
hulkster
02-27-2011, 08:13 AM
hp/tq numbers aside, basically you are either a mustang guy or you are not. similar with the Z but not to such extremes.Although i do believe the new 5.0 will make people reconsider a car they may have previously ignored based on it "just being another mustang on the road." its just that good. but with that being said i still choose the Z. :)
Chris B.
02-27-2011, 11:27 AM
um no.. reading anyone elses post does not help sway my opinion either way...
opinion is just that opinion.. regardless of others post..
my opinion does not validate or invalidate anyone elses.. its just mine..
no offense intended with the mustang owners..
:wiggle:
So let me get this right, your opinion is not based in reality or based upon any facts? :lol:
OMGz Turbo
02-27-2011, 12:02 PM
So let me get this right, your opinion is not based in reality or based upon any facts? :lol:
Thats what i gather also. lmao
Zdrummer15
02-27-2011, 01:57 PM
um no.. reading anyone elses post does not help sway my opinion either way...
opinion is just that opinion.. regardless of others post..
my opinion does not validate or invalidate anyone elses.. its just mine..
no offense intended with the mustang owners..
:wiggle:
So your opinion is that the Mustang doesn't handle well? Have you driven one? The point people were trying to make about your previous point is that if you read any reviews or posts from people who have driven both, you would realize the 5.0 can do much more then just go in a straight line and that's a fact not an opinion.
..Have you driven one? ...
havent debated on the interwebbernet in a while.. :cool:
exactly my point... i have not.. tis why its an opinion.. nothing factual about it and never stated it as fact..
perhaps it came across as that...miscommunication on my part i guess..
based it on experience with a 350 and a 4thgen stang... guessin from what yall are fussing about is outdated..
So let me get this right, your opinion is not based in reality or based upon any facts? :lol:
havent seen it yet.. so to me.. its not a reality.. too many magazine racers in forums these days...
any comparo vids out there between these two to set me.. pardon the pun.. straight.. :lol:
Zdrummer15
02-27-2011, 06:26 PM
havent debated on the interwebbernet in a while.. :cool:
exactly my point... i have not.. tis why its an opinion.. nothing factual about it and never stated it as fact..
perhaps it came across as that...miscommunication on my part i guess..
based it on experience with a 350 and a 4thgen stang... guessin from what yall are fussing about is outdated..
havent seen it yet.. so to me.. its not a reality.. too many magazine racers in forums these days...
any comparo vids out there between these two to set me.. pardon the pun.. straight.. :lol:
Well yes, if you go back 5 years then your statement would be valid, but Ford has made huge strides in the handling department the last few years. I honestly couldn't tell you how well the 2011 GT handles compared to the 370Z since I haven't driven the Z, but I can tell you it handles well. Here's a video to give you an idea how the Mustang stacks up against the M3 which I think you'll agree is a very well handling car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwSPccbzl4
Chris B.
03-01-2011, 02:12 PM
Overall, I have to say these are both amazing vehicles, but in my opinion the Mustang just can't be beat, especially for the price. It has the power, the refinement, and even the handling. I'm going to sleep on the decision, but I'm def leaning towards the 5.0 at this point.
Make any decisions yet? I saw Ford is offering $1500 rebates on the 2011 Mustangs in some areas.
DriftyMcNeon
03-01-2011, 02:40 PM
I drive a Nissan.
I hate Ford with a passion.
I would choose the new 5.0 over the 370z.
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