What wideband do you use?

[Honduh]

I'm in the market for a wideband.

What setup do you use and what sensor does it use (bosch/ntk/etc)? Also, how long do you have to go before replacing the sensor? And if possible, how did it compare to your tuners high end unit (motec/aem)? I'm new to widebands for the most part so its kinda overwhelming me at the moment.

The 3 im considering so far is: FJO, Innovate LC1, PLX m300. I'm looking for something that is accurate/best bang for the buck, and be able to handle occasional street driving.

Any input from personal experience would be awesome!

[92awdtsi]

I've used the AEM with great success, Never tried the 3 your considering.

[Honduh]

I've heard the AEM's fail quite often. But then some people swear by them.

[DPancoast]

I used an Zeitronix unit in my MR2 without any issues. Keep in mind the sensor was at the end of the downpipe. < 3 feet from the turbo lol. The car Im getting this weekend has a PLX unit and the previous owner has raved about it ever since I started talking to him. Unfortunately no personal experience with it but I hear nothing but good things about them

[SleeperGoat]

I use the Innovate LC1 an my tuner loves it. It's worked great since I've bought it 1 years ago *knock on wood* an the cars I've seen my tuner work with all seem to have it too.

[ho1ywars]

I run two widebands in my Nissan. One goes straight to the ecu, the other to a gauge. Both are AEM, both always read the same. been good for three years.

[Honduh]

I use the Innovate LC1 an my tuner loves it. It's worked great since I've bought it 1 years ago *knock on wood* an the cars I've seen my tuner work with all seem to have it too.

I do like the lc-1 myself, but I've heard mixed reviews about the bosch sensor it uses. I also like the price of it.

[Ej6Mike]

i used my AEM for a good amount of time on my honda.... still awaiting a chance to install it on the Ru. It has worked very well for me.

[tjmhillz]

im running aem. had it for quite some time now but i think my sensor is going bad. But other than that its been holding up pretty fine.

[SleeperGoat]

I do like the lc-1 myself, but I've heard mixed reviews about the bosch sensor it uses. I also like the price of it.

Seem fine to me I'm sure if there was any serious issues we would have found out quickly hitting it with the shot.

[98GSXdude]

I have an AEM Uego in my Z and have had good luck with it. The sensors fail as often as any others, but are easy to replace. They go much quicker if you run leaded race gas.

[Foolinaround]

Dynojet wideband w/commander. No complaints.

[Honduh]

The Uego does look pretty nice and its priced fairly decent. But I don't like the round gauge.

[TunedIS300]

have an aem one been on for a year....

[cvcrcr99]

AEM for the past 2.5 years with no problems.

[Sberk06]

havent installed in just yet, but I have the eugo.

[Sberk06]

The Uego does look pretty nice and its priced fairly decent. But I don't like the round gauge.

i got mine on amazon.... http://www.amazon.com/AEM-AEM-30-4100-Digital-Wideband-Gauge/dp/B003ITFA9Q/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1297916002&sr=8-3

[Eclipse GSX 61]

I ran an AEM digital in the GSX before I sold it and I loved it.

[boostedfury]

UEGO here for idk how many years now! Works like a charm!!

[SvicksTc]

Ran AEM on the TC for over a year had to replace the sensor once (expected)

[scottsworld717]

aem on all of are cars no problems

[tjmhillz]

Guys that are running the aem how long was it before you had to replace your sensor?

[Honest_Bob]

I've been running an Innovative LC1. Replaced the first sensor around 40k miles or so. Still running the second one. :)

[Drazga]

AEM UEGO here

[jpalamar]

I do like the lc-1 myself, but I've heard mixed reviews about the bosch sensor it uses. I also like the price of it.

Most issues are because of improper placement. They work fine.

[PAdutch]

I had the AEM in my SRT4 and it worked well. I now have an LC-1 in the evo and works very well, the recalibration is a little weird but effective. The LC-1 is wired right into the computer and works very good.

[Vashthestampede]

Innovate LC1

[Bates]

Zeitronix ZT-2. Always heard good things about it (So I bought mine) and everyone else I know who uses it loves it.

[SovXietday]

PLX M300 here, no longer made I don't think. Best wideband I've ever seen or used, and I've used most of them.

I hate the AEM. It's ugly and has been known to vary up to a point off.

I really don't like the LC-1. I had one and I did not like it at all, too much of a pain to get a gauge set up to it and get it to datalog correctly.

I'm partial to the PLX stuff, but I like the Zeitronix stuff too.

[SpendOne]

I had a PLX M300 as well in my old car. Im picking up a LC1 this time b/c it was the right price.

[Beachcomber]

AEM :thumbup:

[SleeperGoat]

I really don't like the LC-1. I had one and I did not like it at all, too much of a pain to get a gauge set up to it and get it to datalog correctly.

Really? We had no issues at all.

[Honduh]

PLX M300 here, no longer made I don't think. Best wideband I've ever seen or used, and I've used most of them.

I hate the AEM. It's ugly and has been known to vary up to a point off.

I really don't like the LC-1. I had one and I did not like it at all, too much of a pain to get a gauge set up to it and get it to datalog correctly.

I'm partial to the PLX stuff, but I like the Zeitronix stuff too.

I hate the AEM gauge.

Do you happen to have a pic of how you installed your plx gauge?

[JankyS13]

Innovate DB far left

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs024.snc1/4265_201006725124_600615124_6913254_6197009_n.jpg

[Nick 95 6sp]

FJO wideband with NTK sensor

Mostly using 93 pump but over the years probably added up to 150 gallons of leaded racegas and even with that the NTK lasts a few years. Actually when I replaced it with a new one it was still OK just getting a bit sluggish. It usually agrees closely with the dyno wideband taking into account they're quite a few feet apart.

[OutToWinPAHC]

AEM as well

[00RegalGSX]

Innovate LC1

[DPancoast]

my PLX M300 is right on the steering column

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/importtooner87/PA160025.jpg

[BigWhiteTodd]

at school most of the cars have aem and we beat the balls off them haha

[[sr20]sean]

my PLX M300 is right on the steering column

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/importtooner87/PA160025.jpg

19.88? :eek:

and im running an aem

[UnderPoweredRS]

I use AEM haven't had any problems with it.

[UnderPoweredRS]

sean;1921809']19.88? :eek:

and im running an aem

0 rpm the car is off...

[DPancoast]

ding ding.

previous owner took that pic... i'm going to snap new ones when its not cold

[[sr20]sean]

0 rpm the car is off...

didnt think of looking at the tach.
but then again my tach doesnt work so i usually dont look at it lol

[Honduh]

my PLX M300 is right on the steering column

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/importtooner87/PA160025.jpg

Dan, that's exactly how I want mine to look. What is the car tuned with and is it sending a narrow band signal to the management?

[Zdrummer15]

I won't ever use the AEM one since it's been known to have issues when used with ECMLink (DSM tuning software). I've not heard of many issues with it on other cars though. Either way I'll always stick with the Innovate LC-1.

[SovXietday]

I hate the AEM gauge.

Do you happen to have a pic of how you installed your plx gauge?

Yuppers. Pic courtesy of Justin (justinlansdale).

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/justinlansdale/DSC07659copy.jpg

[DPancoast]

Dan, that's exactly how I want mine to look. What is the car tuned with and is it sending a narrow band signal to the management?

Hondata s300. I'll have to double check on the narrowband signal

[SovXietday]

In my experience I actually got better gas mileage if I took the time to just tune it and keep it in open loop than letting it go closed. Also drove better and I could get more throttle response out of it, if you can call it that when the turbo spools so late lol.

[Honduh]

That's why I was asking. Evans says he always eliminates the o2 and runs open loop. But I saw a lot of threads on h-t about people wiring them in. Think I'm going to same route as you.

[JSpecV03]

Im using the AEM UEGO, had it for about 2 years now and no problems. it comes with a bosch sensor, and im still on my first one. works great. only thing ive noticed was that it reads a half point to the rich side, but that dosnt bother me any as its easy math. its good for any street driven car. and im tuned on safc2, so its nothing crazy that would require a higer end wideband like innovate or the other ones like it.
brain what are you tuning your car on?

[SovXietday]

It's also worth mentioning that just like anything else electronic in a car, the quality of the install has the ability to make a difference in the accuracy of the readings. ALWAYS make sure you have a good ground when installing a wideband, if you have a poor ground the readings will be off. This goes with any 5V sensor, as poor grounds will cause "leaks" in the system and you'll have voltages left over giving you off readings.

[Honduh]

Yuppers. Pic courtesy of Justin (justinlansdale).

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l5/justinlansdale/DSC07659copy.jpg

Are you using the TunerView2 display?....I assume the 2 buttons next to the start button are to control it? I'm torn between that and a set of gauges currently.


brain what are you tuning your car on?

The car will be tuned on s300 by Evans.

[DPancoast]

My car was tuned by Jeff Evans after the build. So he'll probably tune your car similar to mine in the end.

[Honduh]

Yes I'm sure he will. Jeff has seen so many honda's he basically can see a setup and know exactly how to set it.

[SovXietday]

Are you using the TunerView2 display?....I assume the 2 buttons next to the start button are to control it? I'm torn between that and a set of gauges currently.

You got it. Don't know what's to be torn about. Tunerview displays everything you could possibly want to see straight from the ECU in a realtime digital display. :)

I hate gauges, all of the wires you have to run through the engine bay. USB -> Hondata box -> screen = 50 extremely accurate gauges all in one small LCD screen.

[DPancoast]

im guessing that system is expensive? I would LOVE to ditch all the gauges in my car lol

the wiring is such a mess.... I might need your help aaron. I will pay you good lol

[GmFwd]

I been running the LC1 for over 2 years now, daily driven every day. I have put almost 20,000 miles on it. Its been great. Finkiy at first, make sure both grounds and your ecu are gorunded to the same point and you should be good.

[Honduh]

You got it. Don't know what's to be torn about. Tunerview displays everything you could possibly want to see straight from the ECU in a realtime digital display. :)

I hate gauges, all of the wires you have to run through the engine bay. USB -> Hondata box -> screen = 50 extremely accurate gauges all in one small LCD screen.

I'm mainly torn because I've never seen the set up in person. Also, what sending units do you use, or does it come with them? Is there any chance I could come peep your setup this week or next maybe? I could also bring you that scrap metal at the same time.

On a more on topic note, I just picked up a PLX M300te Wideband from MAperformance.

[Rush]

Used an AEM UEGO on my MSP for three years and never had any problems. It's still sitting on a shelf in the garage, waiting to be installed in my next toy .. whenever I can afford one.

[ReVision]

If you run your car on strictly pump gas any of the bosch sensor widebands will work fine (AEM, Autometer, ect), but if you use leaded fuel then you will want something with a NTK sensor. I personally use FJO on my car and have had zero issues.

[SovXietday]

im guessing that system is expensive? I would LOVE to ditch all the gauges in my car lol

the wiring is such a mess.... I might need your help aaron. I will pay you good lol

How does $160 sound?

http://www.hrtuning.com/pages/category/tunerview2-lgdash

If you're running Hondata S300 you just need to also get the Hondata module, which is $35 extra.

PS, what's with you and buying wiring nightmares, LOL! Let me know what you want to do about it.

I'm mainly torn because I've never seen the set up in person. Also, what sending units do you use, or does it come with them? Is there any chance I could come peep your setup this week or next maybe? I could also bring you that scrap metal at the same time.

Certainly welcome to come over and check it out if you want. There are no sending units or anything else needed (unless you wanted to do like oil pressure, in which case you'd need to buy a 5V oil pressure sensor), it basically relays the ECU info. The only thing you'll need is that Hondata box like I mentioned above, which basically just allows streaming from Hondata. The only real downside is that with Hondata you can't datalog, but I don't really know why you'd want to considering Hondata's datalogging is quite good and easy to use.

Seriously it's a really nice piece and the price is great too. Easy to install, small enough to fit places, and with being able to do both realtime data AND peak data, with the push of a button you can scroll back and forth between screens and it's all right there. How many boost gauges do you own that stick at their highest points while relaying the current boost pressure. :wink:

PS: Nice wideband! I didn't know PLX came out with an M300 successor. Looks great, you'll be happy with it. Just going to need to get used to how fast it displays haha it's very quick.

[DPancoast]

How does $160 sound?

http://www.hrtuning.com/pages/category/tunerview2-lgdash

If you're running Hondata S300 you just need to also get the Hondata module, which is $35 extra.

PS, what's with you and buying wiring nightmares, LOL! Let me know what you want to do about it.



lol unfortunately the shop that built the car did the wiring and oh boy is it messy! when it gets warmer and more bearable to stand outside I'll get in touch with you and you can come over and check it out.

everything works fine and it's safe... i just really want to clean it up.