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Old 12-02-2005, 04:42 PM   #1
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Is there anything faster?

Than american muscle???

I love the look on peoples faces when the realize my loud, obnoxious, big-winged car is in fact a dodge. Makes my day.

I just wanted to also say that this site is picking back up, hopefully it stays that way.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:22 PM   #2
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srt4 dont sound like a muscle car
more like a snow blower
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:05 PM   #3
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srt4 dont sound like a muscle car
more like a snow blower
Oh don't get so butt hurt cause not everyone wants a V8
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:25 PM   #4
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Is there anything better than american muscle???
Yes, there is. It's called a Skyline.

The most disturbing Skyline I've ever heard of is over 1200 bhp and did over 200 mph through Tokyo.

Amazing, when you consider that it's still a street car.
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:38 PM   #5
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Is there anything better then american muscle... sure it is called german and italian super cars. A 18.2 liter v8 making 400 doesn't impress me but a 5.0 v10 making 507 does.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:17 PM   #6
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What 18.2 V8 do you know off. Viper is a V-10 and makes 505hp and will smoke a M5
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:25 PM   #7
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srt4 dont sound like a muscle car
more like a snow blower
Electric snow blower.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:46 PM   #8
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Electric snow blower.
Sounds good though, lol.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:49 PM   #9
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What 18.2 V8 do you know off. Viper is a V-10 and makes 505hp and will smoke a M5
It was an exaggeration...the new viper is 8.3L V10 510hp, new vette 7.0L V8 505hp, whereas a 5.7L V10 porsche carrera GT puts down 605hp, 4.3L V8 ferrari puts down 490hp, etc. Much smaller displacement with as much or more power.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:51 PM   #10
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Viper is a V-10 and makes 505hp and will smoke a M5
I've never seen or even heard of a race between an M5 and a Viper, but the M5 does have a 600 Lb weight disadvantage.

The trans could be a factor as well, since the Viper has a manual trans and the M5 has a 7-spd auto-shift manual w/OD.

Still, with that said, if someone gave me the option of those two vehicles, I'd take the M5 without a doubt. They've engineered some unreal features into that car.

Check out the differences in the specs.

BMW M5

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Old 12-02-2005, 07:56 PM   #11
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What 18.2 V8 do you know off. Viper is a V-10 and makes 505hp and will smoke a M5
I was kidding about the 18.2 and the viper is what displacement v10 8.3 right and the m5 is a 5 liter v10 and the m5 is making two more hp. oh and what is the redline on a viper 6k oh and the redline on a m5 is what 8250. I don't disagree that the viper is a fast car but the m5 has a higher top speed and has 7 gears... and a more effcient engine, and i don't think you can argue any of that
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Old 12-02-2005, 08:02 PM   #12
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I was kidding about the 18.2 and the viper is what displacement v10 8.3 right and the m5 is a 5 liter v10 and the m5 is making two more hp. oh and what is the redline on a viper 6k oh and the redline on a m5 is what 8250. I don't disagree that the viper is a fast car but the m5 has a higher top speed and has 7 gears... and a more effcient engine, and i don't think you can argue any of that
Higher redline does not equal faster car...
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Old 12-02-2005, 08:22 PM   #13
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Higher redline does not equal faster car...
I do think you missed the point but ok i will give you that a higher redline does not equal a faster car... tho read the rest of my post and comment on that if you would like. Tho i think you would ten to agree that two engines making the same power and have the same ammount of cylinders and one happens to be 3 liters and change less which do you think is the better engine.
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:25 AM   #14
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Its like this

Viper: 1)Release clutch, if it doesnt fall apart you get 2)tire smoke and.............more tire smoke and then you get 3) ....still smokin and it only moved a few feet.

BMW: 1)stand on the gas 2)release clutch 3) chirp tires and launch

American muscle is fun, but engineering gets the power where it belongs.
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Old 12-03-2005, 02:45 AM   #15
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Well with smg you have no clutch and someone said it is auto it is not a auto at all it is a manual with no clutch pedal. Either way yeah american muscle big engines are cool yet i think we can all agree they are not highly tuned machines.
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Theres alot of cars faster then muscle cars (an Srt-4 is not a muscle car) but most of the crazy sick cars use american engines in them

The only thing is they are just big ass V-8's prducing horsepower when my puny 2.0 Turbo can make as much power as alot of these 4.6, 5.0 or bigger engines, therefore the 2.0 engine is way more efficient the liter to horsepower ratio is way bigger

also think that with todays gasoline prices we are seein more efficient smaller engines producing as much if not more power as the big old school boys

Nonetheless Muscle cars are the bagn diggity bang
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Personally I think srt-4's sound good. Maybe you are just used to the detroit iron, the original ford rustang sound. Let me guess your exhaust mods: hmmmm.....headers, off road x-pipe, and bassani cat-back lol..awesome. Cobra's are sick, dont get me wrong, but the ones that are sick came out in 03.
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Yeah guys I can't argue that American cars are anywhere near as nice as anything not made in America but nothing beats the sound of a Cobra or any other 5.0, 5.7 V8.
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Both sides are wrong. German engineering wins hands down. (insert cabbage patch here). Oh yeah!
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