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Old 12-12-2008, 01:37 AM   #1
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Bullseye Power/Borg Warner Turbos -- Who knows about them?

I've been looking for a Borg Warner turbo that's equivelent to a gt3076 .82 a/r turbo.

Had been looking at the s258 and the s362 but they both look to be closer to a gt35r.

Does anyone know about them and can point me in the right direction?
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I hear ya, but as the saying goes,"You can live in your car, but you can't [dyno] your house."
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:52 AM   #2
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I had a 256 on my car and the car trapped 126 mph on pump gas/almost full weight car. My 256 saw 54 lbs/min. I now have a s300 series turbo on the car.
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:05 AM   #3
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:50 AM   #4
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I can't really find more than one or 2 people in the subaru world running them,
and the ones who are are running the 362 which is comprable to the gt35r....

i'm looking for something gt30r sized...any idea what's close to that?
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I hear ya, but as the saying goes,"You can live in your car, but you can't [dyno] your house."
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:46 AM   #5
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s258 should be more comparable to a 30r than a 256 and 300, the wheels wouldnt be the same size but power outpus should be comporable-ish.

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Old 12-12-2008, 11:54 AM   #6
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looks like the s258 is pretty comparable. here is a link:

http://www.turbochargers.com/store/p...oducts_id/1787
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what about spool? looks like the s258 might be a little laggier than a 30r?
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I've heard great stuff about these turbos - they are journal bearing but a few supra guys I talked to said they spool as fast if not a tad faster than the equivalent ball bearing turbos.
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Just order a garrett gt3076 .82 from honeywell or man up and throw the coin to fp for the hta version.

PM acvmotorsports on nasioc and check into that, he didn't get back to me yet.
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I've been looking for a Borg Warner turbo that's equivelent to a gt3076 .82 a/r turbo.

Had been looking at the s258 and the s362 but they both look to be closer to a gt35r.

Does anyone know about them and can point me in the right direction?
They list 3 different configs that are comparable.

S258/259 T-3 .76 Divided A/R or .85 Divided A/R $1399
S258/259 T-3 .55 SS A/R, .70 A/R, T-4 .83 A/R $1499
S258/259 DSM SS External $1499

I can offer them for $1200 or $1300 respectably. Looking at ~$25 shipping, they weigh 21lbs each.

--Sean @ Turbochargers.com

The 262 they list as being closest to a 35r.
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or for $95 more dollars you can get the turbo you really want Bill...

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT

$1,395.00

Garrett Gt3076r .82 w/vband housing and you have the option of having the compressor housing polished. Bingo.

or man up and get the hta from FP.
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BW>Garrett.

garrett is still 10 years behind.
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:28 PM   #13
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Borg Warner does it BIG!
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BW>Garrett.

garrett is still 10 years behind.
how so?
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BW>Garrett.

garrett is still 10 years behind.
uh, dont know about that second statement.......








OP Borg makes great Turbo's for our sport, and Bullseye is in it for the customers, they make good turbo's that are rebuildable (unlike Garrett's GT series), and they have many Comp/Turbine Wheel and Housing Combo's available. I do not know alot of people using the S200 series but in the Honda camp the S300 series is laying the law, the 366's have been taken to 800whp and the S372R's are making 1000whp, a good 50whp over what the GT4294R's were making, and spool just a hair faster. They are double the price when compared to Journal Bearing Garrett's, but if they do the job of the GT's + some then I guess its worth it.
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I have a BW T4 S366. .91 A/R.

Here she is next to old K04. IIRC the BW turbos are a little bit heavier than a GT series turbo...so if you have a **** manifold, it could end up cracking it. And a lot of the BW distributors won't sell turbo braces etc.

Anyways, here she is.



Here are some other random objects, to give you an idea on size...which can also become an issue.

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I have a BW T4 S366. .91 A/R.

Here she is next to old K04. IIRC the BW turbos are a little bit heavier than a GT series turbo...so if you have a **** manifold, it could end up cracking it. And a lot of the BW distributors won't sell turbo braces etc.

Anyways, here she is.



Here are some other random objects, to give you an idea on size...which can also become an issue.


are you running TWO of these on your s4?!?!?
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Correct. Single conversion.


BTW the turbo is rated at 85 lbs/min.. soo it pushes a lot of air.
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