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Old 03-23-2006, 04:24 PM   #1
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RIP Lyndzi

I know I haven't been on here very often recently....I have been working on average of 45 hours a week at my new job...and have been really stressed out about a lot of things...

Anyway the past two weeks my car has gotten hit 3 times by three different people....needless to say my car is a wreck and I hope to be moving on to a 2nd Gen Supra Turbo. I just feel like the car is a target for people to hit it...If I end up keeping it, in a month it will have a mugen front and rear lip with the oem fogs, CTR Headlights, CTR Grill and lowered on Skunk2's.....I will post up pictures after the project is complete...





Its a shame....one day I wanted this to go on it....
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:28 PM   #2
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that sucks man...def. make a decision u know will make you happy!
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:43 PM   #3
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damn steve i wish you the best you need anything let me know ill lend a hand..or two
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:54 PM   #4
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yea man that blows sorry to hear. I'd love me a 2G supra turbo myself I just can't afford one. Just still waiting on my damn talon to be finished stupid belts
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Old 03-23-2006, 05:16 PM   #5
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HEY theres my old 1g BOV from my 2g gsx how i miss that car... well good luck, either way, turbo civ, or turbo supra, both are a wise choice.
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Old 03-23-2006, 05:18 PM   #6
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can you handle the powwwa of rwd? haha jk

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Old 03-23-2006, 06:42 PM   #7
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Sorry to hear about this Steve.

2nd gen Supra Turbo???

They didn't come with a turbo....

This sounds interesting. Do you have any other info on this thing. Is this a purpose built single digit drag car?
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Old 03-23-2006, 06:45 PM   #8
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Sucks man, good luck with your plans. I say go mugen swap and finish off the turbo setup
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Old 03-23-2006, 06:55 PM   #9
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I have a 2nd gen supra, and yes they did come stock with a snail.

With a properly built motor, and supporting mods, they can make 4 digit hp at the crank.

My setup should, and will eclipse 650 at the wheels all boost, and with no2, could realistically break 7 or even 750 at the wheels, not bad for a 3100 lb car with 3 liters.
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2nd gen Supras are 82-86 model year. My father had an 85. I know they didn't come with a turbo from the factory... at least in the US cause I was with my dad when he bought it brand new from a Toyota dealership.

They came with a 5M-GE motor that was a V6 and very different than the headgasket blowing MK3 (86.5-92) inline 6, 7M-GE and 7M-GTE (turblow motor). The MK3 motor eventually evolved into the bulletproof JZA8 and JZA80 motor in the infamously mod friendly MK4.

http://www.celicasupra.com/othercodes.htm

I use to have an MK3 myself shortly after I bought my 3rd DSM. The MK3 eventually got traded in for my 4th DSM.
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Old 03-23-2006, 07:13 PM   #11
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That sucks man, good luck with everything.
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Sucks....Hope everything work out.
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Old 03-23-2006, 08:26 PM   #13
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Sorry to see a Civic go through that. Did you track down any of the people who hit it?
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2nd gen Supras are 82-86 model year. My father had an 85. I know they didn't come with a turbo from the factory... at least in the US cause I was with my dad when he bought it brand new from a Toyota dealership.

They came with a 5M-GE motor that was a V6 and very different than the headgasket blowing MK3 (86.5-92) inline 6, 7M-GE and 7M-GTE (turblow motor). The MK3 motor eventually evolved into the bulletproof JZA8 and JZA80 motor in the infamously mod friendly MK4.

http://www.celicasupra.com/othercodes.htm

I use to have an MK3 myself shortly after I bought my 3rd DSM. The MK3 eventually got traded in for my 4th DSM.

Well, I will tell you what I do know, not what I think.
The pre 83 car u are talking about is a mark 1 celica, then cane the 83 to 85 mark 2, which was the gen 1 supra, often refered to as a celica supra. In 1986, the mark3, or 2nd gen supra, or A70 chassis became avail. It was not untill 1987 that a turbocharged version of the 7mge was avail. This was the next in line of the long living M series engines by toyota, all of which were inline 6 cyl motors. In 1993, the 3rd gen supra, mark 4, or A80 chassis became available.

If you would like me to trace the line of evolution of the supra motors, that's fine. The 2jz did NOT evolve from a M series motor.

The 5mge was avail pre 1987. This was then folowed by a 7mge. The main differences in the 5m and 7m were the stroke, the 7m had an increased stroke to 91mm. (A high rev mod used my some tuners is to directly swap in a low stroke 5m motor into a 7m motor, for lower piston speed) the 7mge evolved into a lower compression version with oil squirters. Then somewhere in 89, the 78m crank counterweights were changed, and the stock revlimiter was lower. Around this time. A 2.5 liter version of the 2jz was avail overseas with twin turbos, and was avail in the mark 3, A70, or also refered to as 2nd gen supra. By 93, toyota had restroked the 1jz to 3 liters, thus creating the 2jz. The only thing I can possibly imagine you were refering to wgen referencing the evolution of the 7m into the 2j was the similarity of the 5m evolution to the 7m, and the 1jz evolution into the 2j.

Food for thought, a 2j and 7m have very different head designs, completly different bore to stroke ratios.

More food for thought..... The 7m only blows head gaskets for 2 reasons, overheated warped heads, and stretched head bolts that need to be replaced or kept tight.


But what do I know, I've only been building supras for the last 7 years, and have one of the highest hp 7mgtes in north america?
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Sorry to see a Civic go through that. Did you track down any of the people who hit it?
Yea I had everyone tracked down. I think at this point I am just gonna keep the civic. I am getting a rental and taking it to my man at the body shop within the next week. Thanks for all of the support guys. The new setup on the civic will have skunk2 coils, my Black w/ polished lip ls Mesh Rims, Mugen Front lip, painted stock sides, Type R rear lip, OEM yellow fogs, TRUE CTR headlights, CTR Grill and a new OEM hood. If everything goes right, the turbo should be on in the middle of the summer. I love my civic and I just don't want to give up on it yet....it has too much potential. If anything this was a godsend to get rid of the rice and trn into a cleaner car....Thanks again guys.
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Old 03-23-2006, 10:41 PM   #16
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i have a buddy with a 86.5 n/a supra with a blown motor. I can get a price for you if your interested in a project.
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good luck with the body work, and give a shout when your going to put the turbo in I'll give a hand
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O steve if you decide to give up on yyour civic idea, I will buy your turbo
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