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HickRocket1258 · 08-12-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

we have a winner!

anyway, good bump regardless because i'm looking at headers and exhaust now

Ken definately get long tubes. BBK makes some affordable good long tube headers. Not sure if they have them for the 2010 Mustang though. Catbacks are endless as well.

Scapegoat · 08-12-2009, 10:05 AM

long tubes are available on american muscle, from JBA and Pypes... my only issue is there is one available shorty xpipe available and it doesn't have cats... but there is an h pipe with cats though, i would just prefer an x pipe

i don't think i want to run catless... is there much of a performance boost w/o?

HickRocket1258 · 08-12-2009, 12:26 PM

No there's not that big of a difference that I know of. And you'll be good with an H pipe. It doesn't hurt as much as you think it would.

EBBS_03_Cobra · 09-03-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

long tubes are available on american muscle, from JBA and Pypes... my only issue is there is one available shorty xpipe available and it doesn't have cats... but there is an h pipe with cats though, i would just prefer an x pipe

i don't think i want to run catless... is there much of a performance boost w/o?

Anything cause less restriction will add power, so catless will have more potential. But you're really talking low numbers, like single digit numbers in horsepower. Something to consider, though, as not all cats will allow you to pass emissions. I know a number of people were failing with Bassani's hi-flow cats, but then again, that was in Cali, where they are ruthless with cars.

Going H versus X will be a big difference in sound, with very little difference in power. I've got a catless set up going through an x on my car.

jpalamar · 09-30-2009, 03:26 PM

H pipe: deeper muscle sound

X pipe: euro V8 sound, supposidly maybe minor preformance gains at best (PROBALLY NOT)

catless: slightly better air flow and more raspy exhaust note, minor preforance gains at best NOT STREET LEGAL

long tubes: clearence issues, sometimes a PITA to install, higher top end, loud as hell, best use is track, NOT STREET LEGAL

shorties: easy install, more low/mid power then high end, better power band for street driving, will still make exhaust louder

jpalamar · 11-06-2009, 11:06 AM

FYI, I just found an article that shows JBA shorties and the gains from them.

http://www.jbaheaders.com/assets/art...gtoarticle.pdf
http://jbaheaders.com/assets/dyno/04gto_dyno.gif

08-12-2009, 12:26 PM	#23
HickRocket1258 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Member #415 iTrader: (0)	No there's not that big of a difference that I know of. And you'll be good with an H pipe. It doesn't hurt as much as you think it would. __________________ -Rob Just a mustang that's lowered.....that's about it. Work harder....Millions on welfare depend on you!

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Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	long tubes are available on american muscle, from JBA and Pypes... my only issue is there is one available shorty xpipe available and it doesn't have cats... but there is an h pipe with cats though, i would just prefer an x pipe i don't think i want to run catless... is there much of a performance boost w/o?

09-30-2009, 03:26 PM	#25
jpalamar TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Collegeville, PA Member #13773 My Ride: 03 Corvette Z06 iTrader: (3)	H pipe: deeper muscle sound X pipe: euro V8 sound, supposidly maybe minor preformance gains at best (PROBALLY NOT) catless: slightly better air flow and more raspy exhaust note, minor preforance gains at best NOT STREET LEGAL long tubes: clearence issues, sometimes a PITA to install, higher top end, loud as hell, best use is track, NOT STREET LEGAL shorties: easy install, more low/mid power then high end, better power band for street driving, will still make exhaust louder

11-06-2009, 11:06 AM	#26
jpalamar TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Collegeville, PA Member #13773 My Ride: 03 Corvette Z06 iTrader: (3)	FYI, I just found an article that shows JBA shorties and the gains from them. http://www.jbaheaders.com/assets/art...gtoarticle.pdf http://jbaheaders.com/assets/dyno/04gto_dyno.gif