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[JET02WRX]

Originally Posted by subwrxkid

Yeah but you said it only made 330whp which isn't much at all. You still never got me a list of what was done so to me this car could have been anything. Wait for my numbers on the 2.65L stroked block and rotated gt30r....

Not Sleds point... You said autos aren't faster than manuals... he named one that is / could be faster....than some....maybe not yours. This is why I don't get the whole 'whose car is more powerful' argument. You obviously have the money to make a sick fast car...but, give that cash to me, and I'd make my auto wagon a sick fast car.... In the end, with enough money...i could make an automatic 1972 Pinto faster than anyone on here. The auto vs stick debate is purely preference, unless you are talking roadcourse racing...THEN yeah...autos are teh suck...but again...then theres paddle shifting..ehh it could go on and on and on....

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by subwrxkid

He blew his motor, built it up and before it could get to the dyno to get tuned it got stolen. He just got it back so I am going to say he hasn't had the car for a good portion of this year.

I just went on the civic boards (for his prior car) and he never road raced/autox'd that either?

GO figure That was archived back to nearly 3 years ago, so I think it's safe to say that he never has actually been the hardcore autox/roadracer that he claims.

Even if he hasn't had a car for the past year, it's still safe to say that he isn't a hardcore roadracer. To go farther, if he hasn't road raced the entire time he has had his license, one could state that he has, literally, no background of road racing like he claims.

[Sled]

Originally Posted by subwrxkid

Yeah but you said it only made 330whp which isn't much at all. You still never got me a list of what was done so to me this car could have been anything. Wait for my numbers on the 2.65L stroked block and rotated gt30r....

their were two robs that use to hang with us. one had a black WRX and the other had a blue one. blue Robs car made 330whp while black Robs made 427whp on 18psi. he ran 26 psi while spraying a 125 shot on race gas when he was gonna race someone. he had enough wheel hp to make it in the 9s. i guess we'll never know now.

[D Money]

Originally Posted by JET02WRX

Not Sleds point... You said autos aren't faster than manuals... he named one that is / could be faster....than some....maybe not yours. This is why I don't get the whole 'whose car is more powerful' argument. You obviously have the money to make a sick fast car...but, give that cash to me, and I'd make my auto wagon a sick fast car.... In the end, with enough money...i could make an automatic 1972 Pinto faster than anyone on here. The auto vs stick debate is purely preference, unless you are talking roadcourse racing...THEN yeah...autos are teh suck...but again...then theres paddle shifting..ehh it could go on and on and on....

I said in the wrx, not all cars. I said mustangs, supras, trans ams and others were faster auto, so are you argreeing with me?

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

I just went on the civic boards (for his prior car) and he never road raced/autox'd that either?

GO figure That was archived back to nearly 3 years ago, so I think it's safe to say that he never has actually been the hardcore autox/roadracer that he claims.

Ehh, than I am not sure. I know mikey but not his whole life story. You may be correct.

EDIT: After reading your editted post then yes, I would agree that since he is a newer driver I also wouldn't clasify him as being an experienced road racer.

[D Money]

Originally Posted by Sled

their were two robs that use to hang with us. one had a black WRX and the other had a blue one. blue Robs car made 330whp while black Robs made 427whp on 18psi. he ran 26 psi while spraying a 125 shot on race gas when he was gonna race someone. he had enough wheel hp to make it in the 9s. i guess we'll never know now.

Really? I am very interested in finding out what he had done because it sounds fast. Is he on nasioc or anything? I have never heard of the car that's why I am asking.

[Sled]

Rob was very shady. hes not into cars anymore and he moved away so i dont see him much.
im sure you can find him on some of the boards just ask around. ITSTOCK has a vid of the car somewhere.

[D Money]

Well then I guess both us will never know. From what you say and the numbers it claimed, it's very well possible it could have been a 10 sec wrx.

[JET02WRX]

Originally Posted by subwrxkid

I said in the wrx, not all cars. I said mustangs, supras, trans ams and others were faster auto, so are you argreeing with me?

Well, to the mustangs, supras..etc.comment, yeah I agree with you...My point was that you are comparing your future rebuilt car, to a 330whp AUTO wrx....which sled was trying to point out IS in fact faster than a lot of manual wrx's. Just trying to counter your statement of auto's wrx's being slower than manuals. The reason I brought up the money thing is, even with wrx's it comes down to money as far as which COULD be faster...auto or manual...ya know?

[Sled]

Originally Posted by subwrxkid

Well then I guess both us will never know. From what you say and the numbers it claimed, it's very well possible it could have been a 10 sec wrx.

i know for a fact it ran 10s. i believe it was one of the first WRX's in the country to do it. he was going for a street legal 9sec WRX. when he got into mustang later on he helped me out big time with parts. if it wasnt for him my car would not be as fast as it is today.

[D Money]

Very true. I have just seen auto wrx's not make much power although from the line they can build over 10psi with a nice stall. Either way, like you said it comes down to how much money is invested into each project.

[Sled]

Originally Posted by JET02WRX

Well, to the mustangs, supras..etc.comment, yeah I agree with you...My point was that you are comparing your future rebuilt car, to a 330whp AUTO wrx....which sled was trying to point out IS in fact faster than a lot of manual wrx's. Just trying to counter your statement of auto's wrx's being slower than manuals. The reason I brought up the money thing is, even with wrx's it comes down to money as far as which COULD be faster...auto or manual...ya know?

your right. when it comes down to it. its all about who has more money. some cars are just cheaper than others.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by subwrxkid

Well then I guess both us will never know. From what you say and the numbers it claimed, it's very well possible it could have been a 10 sec wrx.

Robs WRX murdered my friends 02 Z06 that ran consistant 12.0's@117. That thing launched like a rocket ship, literally

[Sled]

Originally Posted by subwrxkid

Very true. I have just seen auto wrx's not make much power although from the line they can build over 10psi with a nice stall. Either way, like you said it comes down to how much money is invested into each project.

wrx's had only been out a year when Rob was racing his, so i know you can find some info on him somewhere online.

[D Money]

Yeah, I am bored at work so I will try to search around. Sounds insane.

[TurboTagTeam]

I don't have my car back yet. Actually it's just getting to JPR tommorow. Insurance companies take forever.

Dimitri is right. Since I bought the car in november it has been on the road for about 2 whole months.

1. Let a friend drive it (crashed it)--1.5 months

2. Boost creep and bad gas (blew motor)--2 months

3. It was stolen a month ago-- It's just starting to get worked on tommorow.

Plus I'v been out of town alot. And it's hard to plan a weekend road trip to go racing with my job. I'm not making excuses. I just haven't had the time to get the Rx-7 on the course yet.

I never claimed to be a hardcore super experienced road racer. It's just my prefered type of racing. Hell, I do more racing on the street than I do on the track.

My previous car (turboed civic) was quite a track whore however. Mostly autoX

[sleeperstyle]

some pro's of the auto

you pre-load the drivetrain, takes a TON of stress off of everything and saves you $ in upgraded/broken parts.

consistent. impossible to miss a shift, if properly set up impossible to mess up a launch. like i've said a million times i could pay a monkey to drive my car for me.

et faster- even though you technically lose power through the drivetrain, you physically get from point a to point b faster than a stick car. imagine riding in a slingshot and then you start to get the idea. a stick car maybe faster for that certain part of the powerband, or pull harder than the auto for that little while, but the auto (properly set up of course) will pull almost that hard practically the entire run. you see this bigtime in races when the stick car pulls up and then drops back, then pulls up a little bit then drops back even farther.

btw rob's car was fast but like a few cars i know, he couldn't keep a trans in it from what i remember. among other stupid problems is i believe why he ditched it and went with the fox body.

[y3llo_GTO_burnout]

Originally Posted by Sled

their were two robs that use to hang with us. one had a black WRX and the other had a blue one. blue Robs car made 330whp while black Robs made 427whp on 18psi. he ran 26 psi while spraying a 125 shot on race gas when he was gonna race someone. he had enough wheel hp to make it in the 9s. i guess we'll never know now.

The best times that I recall were high 11s @ high 11X. Setup from memory was 1XX shot, 3800 stall, VF-34 with supporting mods, and of course broken tranny. He may have gone faster but it was most likely a one and done run. Any quick search on clubwrx should yield you his exact times and setup.

[Sled]

Originally Posted by y3llo_GTO_burnout

The best times that I recall were high 11s @ high 11X. Setup from memory was 1XX shot, 3800 stall, VF-34 with supporting mods, and of course broken tranny. He may have gone faster but it was most likely a one and done run. Any quick search on clubwrx should yield you his exact times and setup.

not true. i know Rob better than most. 11.70s was his best on the stock short block with spray. i was there when it went boom! he upgraded the tubro later when he put in the built 2.5L. he use a 125 shot to spool it. i rode in the car a for a few of his passes. it blew a tranny ever 6 races. thats why he ditch it. it was costing way to much to build anymore.
he never posted his real times after that. he was shady with it.

[peteyturbo]

This auto vs. MT arguement is lame. Lets keep it moving with import Vs. Domestic with the scope being engine power and efficiency..Talk amongst yourselves..

[ToyComa]

I can buy a turn key dragster from Gamberdellas for 25 grand and beat all you guys
PS drifting owns drag racing and road racings......... but wrc rally racing owns all.