911 Call...Pitbulls Kill Mom!!!

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by cmr076

no i totally understand... haha look back at some of my angry rants!! im sure "itstock" will have something interesting to stir the pot up with haha

lol, to be honest, I have typed up replies for this thread, only to delete paragraphs at a time seconds later, about 6 times now.

Since I've come this far though...

I have personally only known about 6 pitbulls for multiple years.

1. pitbull jumped out a window (THROUGH THE GLASS) to attack a dog walking by. The pitbull was adopted. EDIT: THIS PITBULL WAS PUT DOWN, SORRY FOR NOT MENTIONING THAT.

2. pitbull, owned by the same owner as 1, also adopted, sweet dog. It's constantly around kids and other dogs, no problems and it's probably about 8 years old now.

3. pitbull, adopted, bit my hand when I touched a railing. It kind of came out of nowhere, apparently has bitten other people as well.

4. pitbull, adopted, same familly as 3, sweet dog. Very friendly.


5. pitbull, purebred, long history, let it swim in my pool, and play with my boxer. My boxer went to his water bowl, and the pitbull came charging at my little guy, teeth showing, lunged, I grabbed the pitbull, and told my brothers friend to get the dog away. The same pitbull also tried attacking another friends lab. It's nice to people though.

6. pitbull, purebred, long history, would trust the dog around babies, my dog, ANYTHING. One of the best dogs that I have known.


That's my history with pitbulls. In general, pitbulls are NOT meant to be violent towards humans. From the beginning, they were loyal to the owners and people in general, and bred to protect from other dogs/animals, NOT people.

Now the problem is, when you have a dog that is 80-100 pounds of SOLID MUSCLE, it is going to inflect more damage than a stupid ankle biter (which I have been bitten by HUNDREDS of times, multiple breeds/multiple owners/multiple settings). So while ALL DOGS PROBABLY ATTACK, the stronger dogs that actually inflict injury are going to get the bad rep. It's just how it works. A 5# pomeranian isn't going to kill someone, but make that same viscous 5# ankle biter 100#'s, and you're talking about some serious damage.


MY problem isn't with the dog itself. From what I see, other than the pitbull that actually jumped through and broke a glass window to attack another dog (my neighbor has a 5# dog that tries going through the glass to get to my 80# boxer, he just isn't successful BTW), it's generally the setting in which you see the attacks occur. I'm not just talking about dog fighting area's, but you see a lot of attacks occur with crackhead parents, and the dog attacks a kid. Not only could it be the setting in general, but the parents sure as hell aren't keeping an eye on an animal around their child. Babies are ALWAYS getting bitten by dogs, the dogs usually just aren't strong enough to inflict the damage. The other problem is with the people AROUND the dogs, not necessarily just the owners. As an example, my dog WOULD have been attacked by a pitbull if I wasn't closely monitoring the situation. Dogs are also let loose in the parks, and the dog will go up to a pitbull, unleashed, and the pit will attack it.



As a general rule of thumb, if people weren't so stupid, there wouldn't be as many attacks. I know not to let my dog around ANY breed of dog unless closely monitored. I know not to let my dog around ANY little child without being monitored (simply because my boxer is playful, and jumping up on a 2 year old could hurt the kid).


So yes, pitbulls ARE DANGEROUS COMPARED TO OTHER DOGS. They have the natural physique to inflict more injuries. Rotties, german sheppards (I haven't met a single german shep that I could trust!!!), dobermans, chows, and AKITA'S are just as dangerous. They just aren't left in the same situations as the pitbulls that you see attacking. The owner classes seem to keep a better eye on them. I grew up with a 150# Akita. We used to pull his toungue out, tackle him, whatever we want. He was awesome, would never hurt anyone....unless they appeared to put us in danger. If a stranger would come to the side gate of the house, I have no doubt that if there wasn't a metal fence, my Akita Grizzly would have ripped the person to shreds. On the other hand, my cousins Akita, Kito, bit probably 10 people unprovoked and SHOULD have been put down. None of those attacks were reported.


At any rate, keep an eye on your dog regardless of breed, and if you are a bystander, keep an eye on the other dog regardless of breed. If people did this, there would be less dog attacks. It's as simple as that. A stronger dog creates more damage. An untrained, unwatched, deprived dog creates even more damage. People need to be held more responsible for what their dogs do.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by ericnjttz

what ever you need to tell yourself to sleep better at night

but pits are vicious, sure some are trained not to be but they are naturally vicious dogs and shouldnt exsist.

and im sure yours is a perfect angel, but when it attacks and kills your mom, lets see what you say then

"ohhhhh but my dog would never do that" and im sure the lady in her yard with these 2 pits thought hers would

Pits have been bred through the years to be naturally aggressive to OTHER DOGS. They have been bred to be LOYAL to not only the owners, but people in general.

But no, they are NOT naturally, "vicious" dogs as stated by you. If you want to classify dog fighting as vicious, what about all of the hunting dogs that chase rabbits? They should be in the same "VICIOUS" category if we subscribe to your theory.

[ITSTOCK]

PS: 4doorstunner, I hope that is not a real metal chain around your dogs neck.

[cmr076]

1: completely agree with the hunting argument.
2: the chain look very plastic to me.
3: theres a lot of narrow minded people out there. i totally agree, no dog big or small should be un-supervised around other dogs until you know, not only each dogs traits and attitudes alone, but with other dogs.
4: anyone that leaves a small child alone with a dog is a retard and should be put down.
5: im glad you (itstock) responded the way you did, kinda unexpected but very appreciated.

[Z3R0]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Pits have been bred through the years to be naturally viscous to OTHER DOGS. They have been bred to be LOYAL to not only the owners, but people in general.

But no, they are NOT naturally, "vicious" dogs as stated by you. If you want to classify dog fighting as vicious, what about all of the hunting dogs that chase rabbits? They should be in the same "VICIOUS" category if we subscribe to your theory.

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Perfectly worded.

[ITSTOCK]

lol, not sure why it's unexpected. I have my own views, and they do vary by subject. I'm all over the board if you look at what I argue and what I don't!

I also agree that it looks plastic, but just want to make sure. NO DOG should have a metal collar like that!!.

[cmr076]

it just seems that you have a way of, during a debate pissing everyone off haha, i love it and find it entertaining and agree that you have varying points of view on different subjects and i guess if i thought about it and thought about most of your other posts you would be one of the less narrow minded people on here

[05suby]

this debate has gotten better, thank god. but pits again are amazing and beautiful dogs.

[jspek]

yaaaay for tst bringing another ugly debate into something that is intelligent and meaningful haha.

[cmr076]

^ agreed

[2drStunner]

yes guys its fake! It was a joke when he was a puppy to look tough. My dog has a regular collar.

[Kevin]

How can a chain like that affect the dog? Are they really that heavy to do damage? I thought a big strong muscular dog wouldn't have problems with something like that.

[Kerplunk105]

I think they were actually org. used to strengthen the dogs neck for fighting.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by gsxAWDdsm692

How can a chain like that affect the dog? Are they really that heavy to do damage? I thought a big strong muscular dog wouldn't have problems with something like that.

There were a couple reasons why logging chains were/are used: 1 is they would attach weights to the chain to strengthen the dogs neck for dog fighting, and just make the dog wear the heavy chain (without weights) constantly, and 2: so that it wouldn't break. Unfortunately, bad weight training methods are worse than no training at all (in regards to using the weight to strengthen the dog).

The weight of the chain, over time, puts an extraordinary amount of pressure on the spine/vertebrae, causing long term, permanent injury.

[cmr076]

pwned

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

There were a couple reasons why logging chains were/are used: 1 is they would attach weights to the chain to strengthen the dogs neck for dog fighting, and just make the dog wear the heavy chain (without weights) constantly, and 2: so that it wouldn't break. Unfortunately, bad weight training methods are worse than no training at all (in regards to using the weight to strengthen the dog).

The weight of the chain, over time, puts an extraordinary amount of pressure on the spine/vertebrae, causing long term, permanent injury.

Oh aight. I was just wondering. I was asking for an explanation basically.

So man tits no need for me to get pwned.

[cmr076]

i was kidding buddy, and you love my the little asians man tits.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by cmr076

i was kidding buddy, and you love my the little asians man tits.

Wait he's Asian? lol

He's so fat you can't tell I guess.