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lagos · 02-28-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

Pretty much all intercoolers with cast end-tanks suck. A real QUALITY intercooler will have sheetmetal endtanks. There's a reason why they are so expensive. They are a PITA to make. I hate welding intercoolers. They take so much pedal to heat up. In reality your welding a giant heat sink though...

Thats why you let the 10yr olds in china do it for 100bucks.

Here is my spearco and my ebay cooler side by side. The only flaw I see in the ebay one is that it would be a bit more efficient if the end tanks were centered like the spearco one. But in my case the end tank placement actually works out really well because I could fit my foglights in with the ebay cooler where I couldn't with the spearco.

CleanNeon98 · 02-28-2009, 09:47 PM

The one I picked (21x5.5 core) I think was a better choice than getting something like an 18x12 that would go into the top of the bumper away from airflow, this way I have the ENTIRE core exposed to flow.

With my core I will have 115.5 square inches of front face for cooling vs. stock 64 (8x8). With something like an 18x12 which was a common size on ebay, I would have had 216 but I would only have 18x8 eposed, so 144, and with the general largeness of the core I think there would have been more lag.

I'll see when I get it in.

phillycivicsi · 03-01-2009, 12:54 AM

dude leave the ic silver it will look soo bad ass

disturbedfan121 · 03-01-2009, 01:41 AM

+1 for not painting.its your call but just make sure its centered tho. cause FM's direct replacement IC is off set and it looks dumb lol

CleanNeon98 · 03-01-2009, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disturbedfan121

+1 for not painting.its your call but just make sure its centered tho. cause FM's direct replacement IC is off set and it looks dumb lol

Yea this one will be centered. I really don't understand why the FM and BEGi ones cost near $500.

I mean I guess for FlyinMiata's FM2 Conversion, or Begi's S3 (i think) conversion, a real quality IC will make a difference, but that's already in the 275whp range, on a basic bolt-on MSM with around 200-210whp, there really shouldn't be much difference.

disturbedfan121 · 03-01-2009, 12:21 PM

i have an s3, but dropped their IC and other random parts. still costed 2200 lol

CleanNeon98 · 03-01-2009, 07:52 PM

I thought your kit was a custom build. What are you tuning with, MS?

CleanNeon98 · 03-02-2009, 12:14 AM

I finally bring you a half-decent exhaust vid under load...just wish I had told MSJWRX not to gun his car but w.e it still gives a small idea of how the car sounds from the outside under full load.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_gW...e=channel_page

93EGY8 · 03-02-2009, 01:47 AM

car sounds phat, love how it broke loose in second gear also

CleanNeon98 · 03-02-2009, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93EGY8

car sounds phat, love how it broke loose in second gear also

Thank you sir. I'll try for a better vid soon without interference.

CleanNeon98 · 03-04-2009, 04:38 PM

Everyone was talking about the exhaust, saying ****, now that I have a vid up, you all became mute? SPEAK UP.

TurboTagTeam · 03-04-2009, 06:27 PM

LOL...You sped up right in front of me at school like a week ago when I was walking from the parking lot. I was pretty surprised though.... The exhaust sounds pretty good. Sounds like a DSM with a loud exhaust.

CleanNeon98 · 03-04-2009, 07:27 PM

Thanks.

disturbedfan121 · 03-05-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

I thought your kit was a custom build. What are you tuning with, MS?

well it started as a -S but i added a lot of things, and subtracted alot of things. its basically an S3 with an absurdflow 3" bellmouth DP with metal core cat.

and yes i tune with MS. that i got for free lol

CleanNeon98 · 03-05-2009, 01:09 AM

I think my next step for exhaust will be an FM downpipe, and then maybe a custom exhaust or a cutout in the dp

Seems like there would be lots of room to fit one there. My concern is that with the cutout, I would throw a CEL correct?

CleanNeon98 · 03-05-2009, 02:30 AM

Car should look like this Sunday (minus red couplers)

The new IC might not be tall enough to fill the mouth as much as that one but we can play around with it a little and maybe make it work. I'll update.

Gotta get in touch with ExtremePSi and see if I can get good couplers from them this week.

The 5.5 tall fits like this, I can't really see a difference in tallness because most goes into the bumper anyway.

Honduh · 03-05-2009, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

Pretty much all intercoolers with cast end-tanks suck. A real QUALITY intercooler will have sheetmetal endtanks. There's a reason why they are so expensive. They are a PITA to make. I hate welding intercoolers. They take so much pedal to heat up. In reality your welding a giant heat sink though...

I have a precision intercooler and I don't see how having cast tanks vs. sheet metal would make a difference really. And I def think this is a quality intercooler...

CleanNeon98 · 03-05-2009, 04:54 PM

And since the inlet and outlet on the new IC matches my stock piping, I don't need to spend another 40 bucks on couplers.

DPancoast · 03-05-2009, 05:58 PM

sweet. it'll be cool to see what it looks like all buttoned up. It would be funny to see pink couplers,.

car sounds good... the downpipe will open up all kinds of sounds lol

russiankid · 03-05-2009, 07:45 PM

Finally your intercooler won't be smaller than my tranny cooler. Your intercooler is thicker, but mine has fluid passing through it not air.

02-28-2009, 09:47 PM	#1262
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	The one I picked (21x5.5 core) I think was a better choice than getting something like an 18x12 that would go into the top of the bumper away from airflow, this way I have the ENTIRE core exposed to flow. With my core I will have 115.5 square inches of front face for cooling vs. stock 64 (8x8). With something like an 18x12 which was a common size on ebay, I would have had 216 but I would only have 18x8 eposed, so 144, and with the general largeness of the core I think there would have been more lag. I'll see when I get it in. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-01-2009, 01:41 AM	#1264
disturbedfan121 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CNJ Member #3604 My Ride: 2010 GG EVO X iTrader: (7)	+1 for not painting.its your call but just make sure its centered tho. cause FM's direct replacement IC is off set and it looks dumb lol __________________ '90 Miata - 14psi 250whp 227tq ---Dead and parted To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. '03 MSP-7psi - SOLD.......'93 Sc300 5spd - SOLD '98 BMW Z3 - SOLD.......'92 miata turbo -Traded '10 Evo X- Traded in for .....'14 Jetta TDI 6spd man....... '99 miata NB shell Project....'96 Impreza w/v.1 STi swap

03-01-2009, 12:21 PM	#1266
disturbedfan121 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CNJ Member #3604 My Ride: 2010 GG EVO X iTrader: (7)	i have an s3, but dropped their IC and other random parts. still costed 2200 lol __________________ '90 Miata - 14psi 250whp 227tq ---Dead and parted To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. '03 MSP-7psi - SOLD.......'93 Sc300 5spd - SOLD '98 BMW Z3 - SOLD.......'92 miata turbo -Traded '10 Evo X- Traded in for .....'14 Jetta TDI 6spd man....... '99 miata NB shell Project....'96 Impreza w/v.1 STi swap

03-01-2009, 07:52 PM	#1267
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I thought your kit was a custom build. What are you tuning with, MS? __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-02-2009, 12:14 AM	#1268
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I finally bring you a half-decent exhaust vid under load...just wish I had told MSJWRX not to gun his car but w.e it still gives a small idea of how the car sounds from the outside under full load. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_gW...e=channel_page __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-01-2009, 12:54 AM	#1263
phillycivicsi Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Philadelphia Member #8548 My Ride: more than you can afford pal iTrader: (0)	dude leave the ic silver it will look soo bad ass

03-02-2009, 01:47 AM	#1269
93EGY8 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Nov 2007 Member #6337 iTrader: (2)	car sounds phat, love how it broke loose in second gear also __________________ -2006 Chevy Silverado 5.3 Vortec Z71, leveling kit and k&n intake - my daily -1982 Chevy Camaro Z-28.. Muncie M22 fine spline, Richmond 4:10's, Flowmaster super 40's, 350 4 bolt, lunati cam, fuelie heads, weiand intake, Barry Grant Demon 750cfm double pumper. +6 on jets ..My one true love lol -1990 bayliner 21ft 5.0 H.O v8 - the floating party

03-04-2009, 04:38 PM	#1271
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Everyone was talking about the exhaust, saying **, now that I have a vid up, you all became mute? SPEAK UP. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2** : Daily Driver

03-04-2009, 06:27 PM	#1272
TurboTagTeam Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cell Block F Member #275 My Ride: constantly changes iTrader: (2)	LOL...You sped up right in front of me at school like a week ago when I was walking from the parking lot. I was pretty surprised though.... The exhaust sounds pretty good. Sounds like a DSM with a loud exhaust.

03-04-2009, 07:27 PM	#1273
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Thanks. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-05-2009, 01:09 AM	#1275
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I think my next step for exhaust will be an FM downpipe, and then maybe a custom exhaust or a cutout in the dp Seems like there would be lots of room to fit one there. My concern is that with the cutout, I would throw a CEL correct? __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-05-2009, 02:30 AM	#1276
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Car should look like this Sunday (minus red couplers) The new IC might not be tall enough to fill the mouth as much as that one but we can play around with it a little and maybe make it work. I'll update. Gotta get in touch with ExtremePSi and see if I can get good couplers from them this week. The 5.5 tall fits like this, I can't really see a difference in tallness because most goes into the bumper anyway. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver Last edited by CleanNeon98; 03-05-2009 at 02:33 AM.

03-05-2009, 04:54 PM	#1278
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	And since the inlet and outlet on the new IC matches my stock piping, I don't need to spend another 40 bucks on couplers. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-05-2009, 07:45 PM	#1280
russiankid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lincoln University PA Member #7769 My Ride: 2012 Scion tC iTrader: (0)	Finally your intercooler won't be smaller than my tranny cooler. Your intercooler is thicker, but mine has fluid passing through it not air. __________________ 2012' Scion tC 6-speed M/T.

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