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cszakolczai · 01-19-2009, 09:28 PM

There is nothing good about a Goodyear. They wear down so fast its ridiculous.

OBEEWON · 01-19-2009, 09:43 PM

Cant be faster than Ziex's or Azeni's. BBS wheels are nice but they are so tame. Shoulda got Garcon Deep.

garrettej8 · 01-19-2009, 10:04 PM

I went thru my old falken ziex 512's fairly quickly on my old car, but that was mainly because of negative camber issues. falkens are usually pretty good. I would say go with the 912's however. I replaced my 512's with those but didn't get a chance to test them out. they were very cheap and the treadwear rating was much better.

CleanNeon98 · 01-20-2009, 12:52 AM

Ordered some 205 50 16 Eagle F1 GS-D3 tonight, should fit the wheels well until I can get some wider rubber and the price was awesome.

oneday · 01-20-2009, 10:17 AM

Bear in mind that my requirements* for a "high-performance" street tire are different from most peoples that are merely looking for a daily driver tire that performs better than their stock rubber, but I am constantly amazed by those that think the RT615 is that great of a tire. They used to be considered a great tire for the money but were never that fantastic. And the reason they were the best tire in their class: They were the first and only tire in their class for a year or two (2004-2005?).

By today's standard the 615 is a mediocre tire delivering good results for a very brief period of time. There are myriad tire choices that will perform better, perform better longer and cost the same or close enough to the same to make their longevity pay out.

Hankook RS2, Dunlop Z1, Toyo R1R, Bridgestone RE01R (or the new RE11R) Goodyear F1 (these are decent tires, especially at the price Alex got), Yok ES100 (or whatever its new replacement is called), Continental ContiSport, Kumho XS are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Will the 615s last 10K miles on the street? Yes. But so will all the other tires I mentioned and they will take more punishment and deliver consistent results longer.

*I look at on track performance first and foremast: How long will it last at max cornering load? How does it feel when it it losing grip? Is it a gradual fade, or does it simply disappear? How hot can it run? Will it last a full day on the track?

garrettej8 · 01-20-2009, 09:04 PM

thought you might like this alex...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmdtT6SLdtE

CleanNeon98 · 01-21-2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garrettej8

thought you might like this alex...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmdtT6SLdtE

Motivation to autocross

CleanNeon98 · 01-21-2009, 02:37 AM

Oh, BTW, tires due to be here Thursday!

InvisibleMonkey · 01-21-2009, 07:38 AM

so did you post up what rims you got yet?

CleanNeon98 · 01-21-2009, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InvisibleMonkey

so did you post up what rims you got yet?

Nah, I'll post some pix when the car is all finished up with them on.

Grkdc5 · 01-21-2009, 01:45 PM

looks good keep it up. btw the rt-615 are a great tire cheap to

motorvated · 01-21-2009, 02:13 PM

lol^ he must not have read..

Kevin · 01-21-2009, 02:24 PM

Yea, RT615's suck!!!1

Quote:

Originally Posted by russiankid

Braced for impact? You mean you would be laughing while in the hospital for broken bones.

obvv

phillycivicsi · 01-21-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

Oh, BTW, tires due to be here Thursday!

good just in time for the meet

peteyturbo · 01-21-2009, 02:33 PM

omg the suspense is KILLING ME!!!!!

Vr-4-Life · 01-21-2009, 02:41 PM

alex if you ever need a hand or the right tool id be willing to help you out my friend.

motorvated · 01-21-2009, 03:15 PM

um kevin..who are you rolling your eyes at?

Kevin · 01-21-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorvated

um kevin..who are you rolling your eyes at?

Oneday, oneball, onecylinder, onehighperformancetire, oneopinion, etc lol

RT-615's are great tires because they aren't redic priced and get the job done as a street tire.

oneday · 01-21-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motorvated

um kevin..who are you rolling your eyes at?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin

Oneday, oneball, onecylinder, onehighperformancetire, oneopinion, etc lol

RT-615's are great tires because they aren't redic priced and get the job done as a street tire.

It's ok...I can handle a dissenting opinion. FWIW, the 615s aren't great they are ok. And yes, they do get the job done, just not as well as you might think. Try a great tire once and you'll understand.

CleanNeon98 · 01-21-2009, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin

Oneday, oneball, onecylinder, onehighperformancetire, oneopinion, etc lol

RT-615's are great tires because they aren't redic priced and get the job done as a street tire.

I think he has just a little bit more experience than you do....you know, someone that actually regularly races.

Took it to get looked at tonight, and we found.......nothing

No bends, cracks, nothing. I had the car on the way home going about 45 on a straight flat road, let the wheel go and I didn't have to touch it until I got to the light.

My next course of action is to get the tires on the wheels and get it aligned, and if there are any issues which at this point seem doubtful, the alignment shop will be able to tell me.

She will be back on the road sooner than expected

Big thanks to arkadyzv for taking a look at it!

01-19-2009, 09:43 PM	#1122
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01-19-2009, 10:04 PM	#1123
garrettej8 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PA Member #1793 My Ride: 2008 Black Mica Mazdaspeed3 iTrader: (3)	I went thru my old falken ziex 512's fairly quickly on my old car, but that was mainly because of negative camber issues. falkens are usually pretty good. I would say go with the 912's however. I replaced my 512's with those but didn't get a chance to test them out. they were very cheap and the treadwear rating was much better. __________________ 2008 MAZDASPEED 3 - COBB SRI, CS INSERTS /// 14.2@104 FWD FTL To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2000 VSM CIVIC COUPE To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. stolen To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. CANON

01-20-2009, 12:52 AM	#1124
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Ordered some 205 50 16 Eagle F1 GS-D3 tonight, should fit the wheels well until I can get some wider rubber and the price was awesome. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

01-20-2009, 10:17 AM	#1125
oneday Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Holland Member #5367 My Ride: E36 M3 Coupe iTrader: (0)	Bear in mind that my requirements* for a "high-performance" street tire are different from most peoples that are merely looking for a daily driver tire that performs better than their stock rubber, but I am constantly amazed by those that think the RT615 is that great of a tire. They used to be considered a great tire for the money but were never that fantastic. And the reason they were the best tire in their class: They were the first and only tire in their class for a year or two (2004-2005?). By today's standard the 615 is a mediocre tire delivering good results for a very brief period of time. There are myriad tire choices that will perform better, perform better longer and cost the same or close enough to the same to make their longevity pay out. Hankook RS2, Dunlop Z1, Toyo R1R, Bridgestone RE01R (or the new RE11R) Goodyear F1 (these are decent tires, especially at the price Alex got), Yok ES100 (or whatever its new replacement is called), Continental ContiSport, Kumho XS are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Will the 615s last 10K miles on the street? Yes. But so will all the other tires I mentioned and they will take more punishment and deliver consistent results longer. *I look at on track performance first and foremast: How long will it last at max cornering load? How does it feel when it it losing grip? Is it a gradual fade, or does it simply disappear? How hot can it run? Will it last a full day on the track? __________________ Saving for more track time.

01-20-2009, 09:04 PM	#1126
garrettej8 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: PA Member #1793 My Ride: 2008 Black Mica Mazdaspeed3 iTrader: (3)	thought you might like this alex... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmdtT6SLdtE __________________ 2008 MAZDASPEED 3 - COBB SRI, CS INSERTS /// 14.2@104 FWD FTL To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2000 VSM CIVIC COUPE To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. stolen To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. CANON

01-19-2009, 09:28 PM	#1121
cszakolczai Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2006 Member #2954 My Ride: Sentra SER Spec V iTrader: (0)	There is nothing good about a Goodyear. They wear down so fast its ridiculous.

01-21-2009, 02:37 AM	#1128
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Oh, BTW, tires due to be here Thursday! __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

01-21-2009, 01:45 PM	#1131
Grkdc5 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Jan 2009 Member #10739 iTrader: (0)	looks good keep it up. btw the rt-615 are a great tire cheap to

01-21-2009, 02:13 PM	#1132
motorvated Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Olde City PA Member #9779 My Ride: 2010 VW Jetta 2.5, 5 speed/ 73 VW Beetle drop top. iTrader: (0)	lol^ he must not have read.. __________________ TST....where everybody swings on nuts.

01-21-2009, 02:33 PM	#1135
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01-21-2009, 02:41 PM	#1136
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01-21-2009, 03:15 PM	#1137
motorvated Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Olde City PA Member #9779 My Ride: 2010 VW Jetta 2.5, 5 speed/ 73 VW Beetle drop top. iTrader: (0)	um kevin..who are you rolling your eyes at? __________________ TST....where everybody swings on nuts.

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