NJ's Chat Thwead: The Most Rad People, From the Least Rad State

[Got Insulin?]

If you hate yourself, 5sp swap it. I hate working on those cars.


And, because I'm anal, Stealth/3000GTs are not DSMs.

[nuTinmuch]

That car will literally kill you. It doesn't even care.

[blackvr4]

Originally Posted by itwillboost

I am curious to what "street" clutch he uses.

Autobrah!

[itwillboost]

Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

If you hate yourself, 5sp swap it. I hate working on those cars.


And, because I'm anal, Stealth/3000GTs are not DSMs.

Lol yea I know they aren't technically, but you guys still know those cars better than most. Would you consider all new a/t parts a better idea ? This is one of my best friends who just did 2 tours in the Marines so doing the work for him is not something I mind.

Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

That car will literally kill you. It doesn't even care.

Why/how is that lol.

Originally Posted by blackvr4

Autobrah!

It's a powerglide, but he is swapping back to a m/t for a higher trap speed

[nuTinmuch]

Why/how is that lol.

Was referring to the Viper, because daaaaaaaaaaaamn.

I can honestly say that I don't want a car that fast on the street.

[thefro526]

Strike Number Three:



Toyota and Subaru really messed up on these cars. The wheels and ride height completely ruin anything that's cool about them, not to mention that they're grossly under-powered at 200hp and 2700-2800lbs.

[DaBombDiggidy]

Originally Posted by itwillboost

7 second street car WTF, no one can drive those cars stock, now imagine trying to turn in that lol. I was impressed when the civic recently broke the 10 second street car barrier, but 7 seconds, not needed and just way to insane. Tons of respect for the person/shop that is responsible though. I am curious to what "street" clutch he uses.

most of these "street driven" cars really aren't. the companies that brag about them take them out for a cruise every few months or to a car show. i would lay money though, if the cars were bought brand new they probably wouldnt have over 5k miles on them.

[sean3]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Strike Number Three:



Toyota and Subaru really messed up on these cars. The wheels and ride height completely ruin anything that's cool about them, not to mention that they're grossly under-powered at 200hp and 2700-2800lbs.

Aren't wheels and ride height the first and only things people change when they care about automotive aesthetics instead of performance anyway? 2800lb is a failure of epic proportions though. That car is like the hot chick in highschool that got fat as fuuuuuuuuu when she went away to college.

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by sean3

Aren't wheels and ride height the first and only things people change when they care about automotive aesthetics instead of performance anyway? 2800lb is a failure of epic proportions though. That car is like the hot chick in highschool that got fat as fuuuuuuuuu when she went away to college.

Look at what it was supposed to be based on:



Stock AE86 is awesome looking.

[DaBombDiggidy]

Originally Posted by thefro526

Look at what it was supposed to be based on:



Stock AE86 is awesome looking.

hideous fail futuristic wheels tho, the wheels they threw on the ft86 look like some pep boys ricer ****. IMO ride height and wheels both match what is on the new car stock for stock.

[itwillboost]

This, the car is built the right way, haters will always hate. http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...-greddy-b.aspx

[nuTinmuch]

Originally Posted by itwillboost

This, the car is built the right way, haters will always hate. http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...-greddy-b.aspx

Seconded.

Car is built for driving.

[DaBombDiggidy]

2822 lbs close to 30k price tag and body roll? how is it a turning machine when a v8 car with its base model 6 cyl will probably hand it its head on a platter around a track? cant wait for the mustang v6 genesis i4 fr-s shootout... hell throw the honda si in there too and that new miata is gona destroy the fr-s at exactly what its trying to do.

[itwillboost]

Originally Posted by DaBombDiggidy

2822 lbs close to 30k price tag and body roll? how is it a turning machine when a v8 car with its base model 6 cyl will probably hand it its head on a platter around a track? cant wait for the mustang v6 genesis i4 fr-s shootout... hell throw the honda si in there too and that new miata is gona destroy the fr-s at exactly what its trying to do.

Jusat under 2700lbs, closer to 23k, and little body roll. Look at some of the videos from the test track. Some of the top Japanese drivers in the world had nothing but good thing to say about this car, that's good enough for me.

[DaBombDiggidy]

Originally Posted by itwillboost

Jusat under 2700lbs, closer to 23k, and little body roll. Look at some of the videos from the test track. Some of the top Japanese drivers in the world had nothing but good thing to say about this car, that's good enough for me.

umm no this was posted hours ago and from the confrence

new "halo" car would be priced under $30,000

(usa today)

But the key facets of a 2,822-pound curb weight

(inside line)

sorry but 2700lbs is a guess this car is a cheap version of an s2k without the fun of that 3rd cam lobe vtec bwaaahhhh which hurts it because even test drivers are saying the car runs out of power with 1k rpm left

why are people so dick hurt this is a 2nd rate car? with what its trying to do the miata, the s2k, the rx-8 and the genesis are loads better. <may as well be a fact.

[fitftw]

cars will never be as cool as they used to be. The fact is, we're old. Kids who will be driving in 10 years will be looking at the FR-S like we looked at 80's cars when we were 10. You see how messed up it is? Another example of this would be videogames, except for the fact that videogames are, well, MUCH better nowadays.

Carried my winter wheels downstairs and my summer wheels upstairs. Hope I don't have to actually drive the Miata at all this winter. I would prefer the trusty Shadow to fulfill it's mission in life with complete loyalty.


Now, to keep this thread cool because that pic ain't much special...

[thefro526]

Why isn't NJ chat thread stickied?

Also, as a stock car, BRZ/FR-S/FT-86 sucks.

Some of the reviews I've read say it has horrid body roll, and in the BRZ video I watched, it looks like the king pin angle of the front knuckle is all derped and doesn't let the wheel camber in right.

[thefro526]

Anyway...



RADICAL.

[nuTinmuch]

why are people so dick hurt this is a 2nd rate car? with what its trying to do the miata, the s2k, the rx-8 and the genesis are loads better. <may as well be a fact.

Haha, I'm not even in the market for this car -- I just understand that it's going to be successful.

Here's what is essentially a modern Miata, and people are wondering why I think it's going to sell well. If you compare a Miata to a Mustang, or Civic, or whatever, it'll look pretty bad too -- but that's not the point. Not every car is a dick waving contest of numbers to see who is the fastest.

If it was, the Camaro wouldn't sell -- and yet it has outsold the new Mustang, despite the new Mustang being better in literally every way.

The experience is what is important to most people, and if C&D, MT, Autocar, and Inside Line are all spouting off how this car is a great driving experience and "the best sports car in 10 years" then it probably is pretty fun to drive.

I keep hearing calls for a turbo, or for a lighter car, or whatever. It's all about economics. All of those things would push the price up, and right now, sports cars really aren't selling that well period -- unless they do something else impressive as well (see: fuel mileage).

I mean, really. You know why they didn't want to make a 370z competitor (basically another Supra)? Because yet another impractical sports car in the 30-40k bracket wouldn't sell.

I know that's a hard pill to swallow, but don't take my word for it. Just look at the market.

[thefro526]

Idk, guess I'm mad that it's not a true '86'.

It should have been like a Civic SI, where you have sports susp, a sporty motor, etc.

For the moment, I'm pretty sure this is a base car, which doesn't make sense if it's an '86' inspired car.

(Implying that there should be one trim level, and one only it's a true '86' and that's a GT/GTS/Whatever but sporty trim.)