Morla's Evo 9 SE -- Freshly Painted and Looking Delicious

[lownslow95]

Looks good.

[ambitiousCK]

Looks good man

[morla]

Have some plans, again... I don't think they have changed more so than I am just adding on. It's about time I do some power mods, so I'll see what I know I want and what I need to do with adding more power. I think going for 400whp sounds like a good goal. Now with a second car, I feel more comfortable adding power. Here's what I'm thinking:

-- BBK (Lite?) Turbo
-- HKS Fine Tune Timing Belt
-- Kelford 272 Cam Shafts
-- HKS Cam Gears
-- Okada Projects Coil-Pack Plasma Ignition <----- I'm looking into this. There have been good reviews and it makes sense in their sales pitch




Any suggestions in good power mods for the eve would be greatly appreciated :D (and yes, I check evom a lot)

[TalonTsi97]

My buddy made 406 on a bbk lite VIII with a junkyard pulled motor, hks 280s, self tuned, and some other bolt ons. Definitely a nice turbo, BUT depending on your power goals you can get 400whp out of a stock 9 turbo with meth/e85/100oct. I'd maybe look into a bbk full if your stayign pump gas. Kelfords are a good choice, car will sound beast. Any plans for springs and retainers? I'd rather get them and skip the unnecessary cam gears for you power level. I'd look into a nice fmic 3 or 3.5" (forget what you have now) depending on your $ situation and what you find available, a lower i/c pipe for sure, upper isnt totally necessary till over 500whp. Make sure you have injectors and fuel pump to back it up a bov thats not leaking, and a good tune for after.

I like the okada's from what i've heard but haven't seen any local real world tests. Interested in your review.

vid of bbk lite evo8 so u can see full mod list. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v52c...el_video_title

[TalonTsi97]

Here is another one of my friends evo 9's on the dyno for comparison with stock turbo and a nice selection of bolt ons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNqDz323ieU

Stock turbo is very capable with the rite tuning and selection of parts. People are running deep into the 11s with them on meth/e85 and between 350-400whp easily on pump.

I suggest K.P. Tuning or Petey@KrazyHouseCustoms to tune it.

[ambitiousCK]

My vote is stock turbo, valvesprings and retainers, cams, head studs, and complete your bolt ons, will be good 380-400awhp and 11's. I say do that and then chase higher level sports cars. I dont see the need for a bigger turbo if you arent looking for huge numbers. Do you have plans for the car? Track, 1/4 mile, autoX, hard park? lol

[Got Insulin?]

Chip read my mind. The cam gears are pretty unnecessary, and springs and retainers, along with a port and polish of your head if you're taking it off will take you a long way. Then fuel.

[TalonTsi97]

Honestly a 4g63 head doesn't need porting either until you making some pretty good power. Head studs though are a must, maybe at your power level it'll be good peace of mind but beyond mid 400whp your gonna definitely need them.
arp head studs, smallest i'd go would be in the 800cc range but would probably just grab 1000cc injectors, walbro 255 fuel pump, licp (ets, nisei, jmf) wouldn't buy a 2 piece one from my experience, 3.5" fmic core (ets, ebay [surprisingly], jmf, buschur [need his own licp with it tho], etc), tune (K.P. Tuning or peteyturbo hands down), kelford 272s, valve springs & retainers (kiggly, supertechs buschur), if your staying stock frame turbo i'd also look into a nice o2 housing (jmf o2 dump, titek, megan)

It's easy to make an evo go fast and for not a lot of money, well a lot of money but in comparison to other cars it can be done fairly reasonable. If your smart and plan out "used" and new parts and shop around you can really get some good bang for your buck without even grabbing a bigger turbo. Have fun with the car for a bit on the fast spooling good whp IX turbo and then debate what you want to do before spending another grand + on a bigger turbo.

[11secdsm]

He's got a Perrin FMIC...so he's set on that. Here's what i'd do if you're only looking for 400whp....

Injectors, pump, LICP, cams, and head studs. If you plan on revving the motor past 8500 i'd do valve springs too....stock springs will go far in these cars since they're already beehive. Couple that with a good tune from Pete or Karl on meth or e85 and you're set. If you want a bit more power on 93 pump, i'd consider something like the HTA Green. IIRC we made right around 400whp on Krazy Houses Mustang dyno on that turbo and GSC S2 cams, so you know what kind of power it's really making. Keep it simple. I liked my Evo a hell of a lot better when it was all bolt ons making 525 on pump compared to after I went balls to the wall.

Agree with Chip, don't need a P&P on the 4G head unless you're making BIG power.

[morla]

I knew tst wasn't full of jerks that like to show how tough they are. Thanks for the quick advice. I think sticking with the stock turbo sounds more enticing now. I have heard amazing things about peteyturbo and I have actually talked to him and he is definitely doing my tune. I'll look into all avail be options first but again thanks for the advice/suggestions. Just some preliminary thoughts for the power. I'm not going out to get anything just yet

[evilution10x]

I also vote for stock turbo. Also, go E85 if you can. That fuel can do wonders.

[TalonTsi97]

Originally Posted by evilution10x

I also vote for stock turbo. Also, go E85 if you can. That fuel can do wonders.

e85 does wonders on stock block stock ix turbo cars but its not local or practical were morla is located. I know it can be done but it be a hassle and a half. If your looking for that kinda power all the time then meth would be the way to go. We do have a local 100oct pump near us but thats $7.49 a gallon so itll get expensive really quick.


hta green, bbk full are 2 great options if you do upgrade but i say do the other mods first and get it tuned stock turbo and have some fun for a while.

[11secdsm]

Originally Posted by TalonTsi97

hta green, bbk full are 2 great options if you do upgrade but i say do the other mods first and get it tuned stock turbo and have some fun for a while.

I concur.

[ambitiousCK]

Do you have plans in terms of using the car? track/autox/1/4mile?

[evilution10x]

Originally Posted by TalonTsi97

e85 does wonders on stock block stock ix turbo cars but its not local or practical were morla is located. I know it can be done but it be a hassle and a half. If your looking for that kinda power all the time then meth would be the way to go. We do have a local 100oct pump near us but thats $7.49 a gallon so itll get expensive really quick.


hta green, bbk full are 2 great options if you do upgrade but i say do the other mods first and get it tuned stock turbo and have some fun for a while.

I see, a buddy of mine with a Evo IX has a BBK full and is pushing out really nice numbers. You pretty much said is all right there, hta green or BBK full are really nice options to upgrade to, but stock turbo is always fun.

[morla]

I would love to do auto x, but for right now I just want to get some power out of it without any specific style in mind. I know a lot of people that would kill to work on a 4G63 and I think it's about time I dive into it and stop letting it go to waste. I want a nice amount of power for driving on the street, I feel like I have handled the switch from Lexus classy to Evo power nicely. I haven't abused all of the power like a lot of kids my age would, and most likely get themselves in trouble. So I know I can handle some more under the hood. Chip, I've looked into everything you suggested and it's pretty much all of what I was looking to do, most of those things just further solidified what I was hoping were proven parts. I'll start gathering up some numbers and see what I'm getting into but as of right now, be prepared to start seeing more performance parts rather than aesthetic. I think I've looked into just about everything for looks wise and I am really happy with how it looks right now. So time to move on so I can continue to build this into my dream car. Looks and performance to back it up.

[Got Insulin?]

Originally Posted by morla

Looks and performance to back it up.

Finally, he see's the light!

I was really happy with the non-HTA Green on my 2.0l DSM. Awesome power delivery, quick spooling, and never really gave me any real issues; so I can imagine the HTA version is pretty awesome.

As far as the P&P, it's one of those things that isn't really necessary, but can't hurt either. If you're planning on doing a built head (totally forgot they had beehive springs stock!), it's just something to consider.


You should go run an Auto-X anyway, dude. It's a good way to spend a Saturday and learn your car a bit. You might not be competitive in the class they'd put you in just because of your mods, but running as a novice is a good time.

[TalonTsi97]

Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

As far as the P&P, it's one of those things that isn't really necessary, but can't hurt either. If you're planning on doing a built head (totally forgot they had beehive springs stock!), it's just something to consider.

Na it will hurt.....your pocket. lol

Don't waste the potential and life of your stock 9 turbo. Run it and do what it can do then sell it or use it as a core for an upgrade when the time comes. No reason not to.

[MisterTorrez]

hell of a nice ride! good work!

[morla]

Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

Finally, he see's the light!

I was really happy with the non-HTA Green on my 2.0l DSM. Awesome power delivery, quick spooling, and never really gave me any real issues; so I can imagine the HTA version is pretty awesome.

As far as the P&P, it's one of those things that isn't really necessary, but can't hurt either. If you're planning on doing a built head (totally forgot they had beehive springs stock!), it's just something to consider.


You should go run an Auto-X anyway, dude. It's a good way to spend a Saturday and learn your car a bit. You might not be competitive in the class they'd put you in just because of your mods, but running as a novice is a good time.

I have seen the light, and it's calling me

But seriously, I have realized that no matter how good the car could look, I still want it to be fun to drive. I have talked about doing auto x since I came on here and yet, I still haven't done it. So it's about time I stop just talking and start doing. Let's just say speed hunters has been moving up on my frequent sites I visit

Originally Posted by TalonTsi97

Na it will hurt.....your pocket. lol

Don't waste the potential and life of your stock 9 turbo. Run it and do what it can do then sell it or use it as a core for an upgrade when the time comes. No reason not to.

Yeah, that's what I'm planning on now. No use in not giving the stock turbo some love. Plus I can always use the core for a BBK upgrade later. It saves money now and it saves the time too.

Originally Posted by MisterTorrez

hell of a nice ride! good work!

hey thanks




So as far as injectors go, has anyone had any experience on Injector Dynamics? That seems to be one that I always see coming up.