Why do people think I'm trying to commit suicide? *PIX*

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

no thats not what im saying



mods lock it please

I must have missed your point. Care to elaborate?

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

How are you not agreeing with me? You state that attempting suicide is a cry for help. I agree. Thanks, I don't know why this keeps going in circles.

stop reading the PART of my post that says the attempt is a cry for help... try reading everything else thats about it not JUST being about that...

honestly, I really think that you're still just upset about your friend... so I'll give you the benefit of that...

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

stop reading the PART of my post that says the attempt is a cry for help... try reading everything else thats about it not JUST being about that...

honestly, I really think that you're still just upset about your friend... so I'll give you the benefit of that...

So let me get this straight, we (as well as all of your medical books and professional opinions) both agree that a suicide attempt is a cry for help?

I still don't see the argument.

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

So let me get this straight, we (as well as all of your medical books and professional opinions) both agree that a suicide attempt is a cry for help?

I still don't see the argument.

hes saying its a sign that the person need alot of help and not just attention

you are saying its just for attention

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

hes saying its a sign that the person need alot of help and not just attention

you are saying its just for attention

I'm saying they are doing it to get attention, or using it as a cry for help (same thing in the end). They are. Whether they actually need help or not, who knows.

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

I'm saying they are doing it to get attention. They are. Whether they actually need help or not, who knows.

you are saying suicide and cutting are both crys for attention. thats completely wrong for most people.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

you are saying suicide and cutting are both crys for attention. thats completely wrong for most people.

No, I'm saying that suicide is selfish, and attempting it is a call for attention. Either way, I guess it's pretty easy to argue that actually committing suicide is a call for attention most of the time (you know, suicide letters and all . )

[[sr20]sean]

you do know that many suicides dont even have suicide notes?

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

you do know that many suicides dont even have suicide notes?

I'm assuming that you did read what I typed since you are directly replying to my post. I don't recall ever stating that every suicide had a note to accompany it. The implication was that writing a suicide note is a form of attention, which it is, hence I stated, "Either way, I guess it's pretty easy to argue that actually committing suicide is a call for attention most of the time (you know, suicide letters and all . )".

[[sr20]sean]

yes i was surprised that you knew that

my bad i worded the post wrong i made it seem like i was asking if u knew that they didnt have them

[omgjacki]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Wait, so it IS a cry for help, but they aren't trying to get attention? How exactly does that work????

I would just like to comment on this line...

So pretty much, if I ask for help on my homework, I'm looking for attention? Only this is subject is on a much larger scale. Needing help, and just seeking attention are two totally different things. I don't see where you got that there were alike. There are people that seriously want to be helped, and there are people just just want others around all the time, that just want to be the center of attention. Two different things, man.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by omgjacki

I would just like to comment on this line...

So pretty much, if I ask for help on my homework, I'm looking for attention? Only this is subject is on a much larger scale. Needing help, and just seeking attention are two totally different things. I don't see where you got that there were alike. There are people that seriously want to be helped, and there are people just just want others around all the time, that just want to be the center of attention. Two different things, man.

You are misunderstanding the correlation.

Someone who attempts suicide is doing so as a CRY for help, aka they WANT attention.

Now, if that person ASKED for help instead of attempting suicide (as MILLIONS of people who seek psychiatric help do each year), you would have a perfect match to ASKING for help on homework. Likewise, if you tossed your books at your teacher and throw a hissy fit, you would be CRYING for help. I hope that clears up your understanding.

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by omgjacki

I would just like to comment on this line...

So pretty much, if I ask for help on my homework, I'm looking for attention? Only this is subject is on a much larger scale. Needing help, and just seeking attention are two totally different things. I don't see where you got that there were alike. There are people that seriously want to be helped, and there are people just just want others around all the time, that just want to be the center of attention. Two different things, man.

very good comparison

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

You are misunderstanding the correlation.

Someone who attempts suicide is doing so as a CRY for help, aka they WANT attention.

Now, if that person ASKED for help instead of attempting suicide (as MILLIONS of people who seek psychiatric help do each year), you would have a perfect match to ASKING for help on homework. Likewise, if you tossed your books at your teacher and through a hissy fit, you would be CRYING for help. I hope that clears up your understanding.

dude that makes no sense



why didnt troll lock this he was just viewing the thread not that long ago

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

very good comparison




dude that makes no sense



why didnt troll lock this he was just viewing the thread not that long ago

How does it NOT make sense?

You can be depressed and go get help.

You can be depressed, slit your wrist, and then maybe help (or feel too stupid to do anything).


You can not understand homework and ask your teacher for help.

You can not understand homework, throw your book at the teacher, cry, get depressed, slit your wrist, and MAYBE get homework help.

[omgjacki]

I PMed TROLL. I hope he locks this. It's very unnecessary.

[omgjacki]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

How does it NOT make sense?

You can be depressed and go get help.

You can be depressed, slit your wrist, and than get help (or feel too stupid to do anything).


You can not understand homework and ask your teacher for help.

You can not understand homework, throw your book at the teacher, cry, get depressed, slit your wrist, and eventually get homework help.

Um... so when a rape victim doesn't come right out for help, it's a cry for attention?

[TROLL]

why should it be locked? i dont see any rules that its breaking. if you dont like the subject, then go find something else to read up on.

i dont really see what you're disagreeing about though... the ideas are very similar, it just sounds like its coming down to how you're wording them.

[WRX_JB]

Originally Posted by TROLL

why should it be locked? i dont see any rules that its breaking. if you dont like the subject, then go find something else to read up on.

i dont really see what you're disagreeing about though... the ideas are very similar, it just sounds like its coming down to how you're wording them.

i agree

[omgjacki]

Nevermind... the man has a point.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by omgjacki

Um... so when a rape victim doesn't come right out for help, it's a cry for attention?

When my dog pees inside, is it a cry for help? You're really stretching.