1s time Turbo purchase

[JerseyKid]

Originally Posted by TGilb2007

Jersey..... is that gunmetal one Ravens???? Used to be white?

Sure is buddy

[italianblaze]

shouldnt this thread be in general car related chat?

and my personal opinion is lol @ cav's but thumbs up for bein different though
i agree there all civics subies evos srt 4 s 14's and the ocassional 300z but i cant say i have seen alot of boosted cav's

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by italianblaze

shouldnt this thread be in general car related chat?

and my personal opinion is lol @ cav's but thumbs up for bein different though
i agree there all civics subies evos srt 4 s 14's and the ocassional 300z but i cant say i have seen alot of boosted cav's

...simply becuase they aren't economical to make fast, and their "fast" usually isn't the same as many other cars that are called "fast".

Different? Yes. Performance to price efficient? Hell no. That's all that we were trying to say. For 6,000 total, you can buy an LS1 fbody, have it bone stock and reliable for hundreds of thousands of miles, and it will still be faster than the cav. That was the simple point being made. It's okay to be different, but different car isn't always smart.

[italianblaze]

and f bodys get you pussy
its a fact

[ITSTOCK]

The MULLETS get the pussy. The only correlation is that the mullets are usually in the fbody.

[Renegade_]

Originally Posted by eg87

i cudnt think of anything cheaper besides a honda to modify for 3-5 grand. put another 5 in it and u have this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKuzAoYifuU

yea no potential.....

But if you were to take that 5 grand in addition with the 3-5 grand initially into a car with an LS1... you would be 11s at a bare minimum (exhaust and cams gets you 11s no problem, throw slicks in and your deep 11s. throw nitrous in you have 10 sec car no question)

What is being disputed here is not I think "should he do it or not"... I'm all for someone doing something different to their own car if they like it... It's just that there are so many other cars which can do more for the same price that everyone is pointing out cars which have a better return on investment.

[SleeperGoat]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

The MULLETS get the pussy. The only correlation is that the mullets are usually in the fbody.

Last i checked i didnt have a Mullet Steve!!!

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by BlackZ05

Last i checked i didnt have a Mullet Steve!!!

Shortly after I made that post, I was literally seconds from going to the mustang roll call thread to call all of the mustangs a bunch of rust buckets, so illustrate that I don't discriminate. My mom drives a camaro, and she doesn't have a mullet either

[GyrlSpeedRT]

I think the thing is really so many of the SAME cars that are out there that are faster. You would remember a Cav that gave you a run for your money other than the same Subie, Civic, Mitsu, Acura, etc...

[SovXietday]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

The MULLETS get the pussy. The only correlation is that the mullets are usually in the fbody.

Bwahahaha, not gonna lie I laughed my ass off at this.

Mostly because it would take me 5 minutes to have a mullet.

[SleeperGoat]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Shortly after I made that post, I was literally seconds from going to the mustang roll call thread to call all of the mustangs a bunch of rust buckets, so illustrate that I don't discriminate. My mom drives a camaro, and she doesn't have a mullet either

Doesnt your brother too? Or is that gone.

[eg87]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

...simply becuase they aren't economical to make fast, and their "fast" usually isn't the same as many other cars that are called "fast".

Different? Yes. Performance to price efficient? Hell no. That's all that we were trying to say. For 6,000 total, you can buy an LS1 fbody, have it bone stock and reliable for hundreds of thousands of miles, and it will still be faster than the cav. That was the simple point being made. It's okay to be different, but different car isn't always smart.

where did u find ls1's for 6 grand??! cheapest i can find with one thats not totalled is about 10 grand minimum, thats with some miles. if u kno of any others leme know ill go buy it tomorow.

Originally Posted by italianblaze

and f bodys get you pussy
its a fact

as a former fbody owner, please i hope ur kidding.

Originally Posted by Renegade_

But if you were to take that 5 grand in addition with the 3-5 grand initially into a car with an LS1... you would be 11s at a bare minimum (exhaust and cams gets you 11s no problem, throw slicks in and your deep 11s. throw nitrous in you have 10 sec car no question)

What is being disputed here is not I think "should he do it or not"... I'm all for someone doing something different to their own car if they like it... It's just that there are so many other cars which can do more for the same price that everyone is pointing out cars which have a better return on investment.

I believe it wud take a nasty cam, gears, slicks, exhaust, nitrous and a tune to even hit the 10's in a camaro or transam. thats not cheap.

Originally Posted by GyrlSpeedRT

I think the thing is really so many of the SAME cars that are out there that are faster. You would remember a Cav that gave you a run for your money other than the same Subie, Civic, Mitsu, Acura, etc...

atleast you get the idea.

[JerseyKid]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

...simply becuase they aren't economical to make fast, and their "fast" usually isn't the same as many other cars that are called "fast".

Different? Yes. Performance to price efficient? Hell no. That's all that we were trying to say. For 6,000 total, you can buy an LS1 fbody, have it bone stock and reliable for hundreds of thousands of miles, and it will still be faster than the cav. That was the simple point being made. It's okay to be different, but different car isn't always smart.

LOL at 6000 "total".

And i hate to tell you , not everyone is dying for an LS1 car. No one was talking about performance to price effecient, so why would that even matter at all?

And i love how not having an "ls1" doesnt make you "smart". I yawn at intake and exhaust F - bodies, why? Because any tool with $12k and a summit catalog can run 11/12s.

But a turbo cavalier, or any other "economy" car running 12s/13s that someone built , or put together themselves , thats more rewarding to see.

Originally Posted by Renegade_

But if you were to take that 5 grand in addition with the 3-5 grand initially into a car with an LS1... you would be 11s at a bare minimum (exhaust and cams gets you 11s no problem, throw slicks in and your deep 11s. throw nitrous in you have 10 sec car no question)

What is being disputed here is not I think "should he do it or not"... I'm all for someone doing something different to their own car if they like it... It's just that there are so many other cars which can do more for the same price that everyone is pointing out cars which have a better return on investment.

Of course there is always something better, quicker, and easier to mod, but he said he did not want a civic, or sti, or evo. Not everyone is looking for the best bang for there buck, people want what they have interest in, even if it isnt a rocketship for a small amount of money.

You mod a car to make yourself happy, not everyone wants to get down the track quicker with the least amount of money.

[ITSTOCK]

Go to LS1tech and you will find a couple for right around $6000.

If you find a way to argue with what I said, which was...

...simply becuase they aren't economical to make fast, and their "fast" usually isn't the same as many other cars that are called "fast".

Different? Yes. Performance to price efficient? Hell no. That's all that we were trying to say.

Have fun. Merry christmas.

[SovXietday]

Originally Posted by JerseyKid

LOL at 6000 "total".

I got mine for 5600...

[eg87]

what fool let their ls1 go for so cheap!!!! and im talking about the ny pa nj and deleware area, im not gona go to the other side of the country to save 2 grand. (refering to ls1tech) that and everyone on ls1tech has modified cars, id wana buy it relatively stock with low miles, im sick of not pushing out the extra money to get something nicer.

[eg87]

but back to the point. a fast car is a fast car, idc how "economical" modding it is. cavaliers look awesome and obviously can be very quick. so don't start knocking it your supposed to be a car enthusiast, not a this car is fast stock enthusiast.

[SUPRARICE87]

Originally Posted by JerseyKid

Just for you , here are two 3800 Cavaliers.






"All summer I was running on a 91 octane pump fuel tune running 15psi and stock timing putting down 451whp and 421wtq. With that being said the car was able to pull a best time at the track of 11.57@126mph with a 1.91 60ft time."

man that's a suprise and a half. The turbo is unreal.

[pearl]

i read the whole front page, so forgive me if i miss something.

if you have the funds, want to research it, do it. do it right, and be different. dont let anyone talk you out of it.

the only thing i would be worried about is the transmission. do you have an automatic? how do they hold up to boost? the one reason why so many hondas are boosted and last a long time (10-17 pounds of boost daily) is because of the honda transmissions. check out how weak the transmission is first and see if you need to invest some of your money there.

[TGilb2007]

Originally Posted by SUPRARICE87

man that's a suprise and a half. The turbo is unreal.

He was also one of the first to swap that motor into the car. Was orginally s/c'd as well, and used to be white. I knew he was changing the car a bit.... but wasnt ready for that when I finally saw it