The Product Debate

[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by EvlEgl

FWIW the picture Clanneaon Posted of the scratched door, Isn't the same door...Look att he door handle, No lock or buttons on the bottom one...I highly doubt any Wax/Cleaner will get those scracthes out and make it Shine THAT good.

thats how they are posted on the autopia site...

[JoshV70]

Anyone know whether the Poorboys SSR polish line contains fillers or not?

[jh95zenki]

Originally Posted by redline

I would recommend you use a detail spray after the soap has been rinsed off because of possible grit still left on the car. I am sure this works well but I wouldn't chance it. Get one peice in your claybar and say goodnight to your clear.

+1
You should rinse the soap off after you wash each panel as well. I would never risk leaving the soap on there and then claying on top of it.

[jh95zenki]

Originally Posted by JoshV70

Anyone know whether the Poorboys SSR polish line contains fillers or not?

No, they are abrasive and are designed to remove the swirls, not fill them in. They are also made to be used after each other depending on the correction being made and which polish, if one contained fillers the one used after would just be taking them out making it completely pointless.

[rickeo]

Used to be a big Zaino fan, then realized i was paying WAY to much for what i was getting. Became a Chemical Guys convert and i will never look back. Paul over at CG is absolutely the coolest guy, he always throws in free stuff and discounts everything. Dont order from their site, call and ask to talk to Paul.

Products i use:
-EDGE SchMitt (dont care what people say, i love it and have yet to see any micromarring)
-misc. 80/20 MF
-Makita rotary w/ full EDGE 2000 system (perfection?)
-Chemical Guys 70/30 MF
-Chemical Guys Wheel Guard (applied 3 layers of this to my wheels when i first recieved them, brake dust rinses off with the hose... amazing stuff)
-Chemical Guys CGC-2 medium duty compound (gak!... if you have used it, you know what i mean)
-"" Pro-Polish
-"" M-Seal
-"" Blitz Liquid Acrylic Sealant
-Poorboys World APC
-Chemical Guys Synthetic Detailer
-50/50 IPA/H2O
-Zaino Z16 "perfect tire gloss" (only zaino product i fork over the dough for... No other tire shine i have tried, and that be many, has surpassed it)
-Gilmour foam gun (couldnt imagine washing a car without it)
-2 buckets both with GritGuards
-S100 Wheel Gel (AKA P21S)
-S100 Total Cycle Wash (AKA P21S)
-Zymol Lehm-Klay w/ Lube ($$$ but so much eaiser to use then other clays)
-Chemical Guys Citrus Wash & Gloss
-Chemical Guys MF Restore
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[JoshV70]

Originally Posted by jh95zenki

No, they are abrasive and are designed to remove the swirls, not fill them in. They are also made to be used after each other depending on the correction being made and which polish, if one contained fillers the one used after would just be taking them out making it completely pointless.

Okay thanks. Have been using 1Z polishes for a year or two with great success with the PC, but it doesn't like to work well with the cyclo. Figured I will try the Poorboy's with the cyclo, but just wanted to verify that it didn't contain any fillers like a lot of products do.

[italianblaze]

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

thats how they are posted on the autopia site...

just admit you got ownd due to lack of observation
i mean i probably would of overlooked it at first too

[SeMaxima99]

Originally Posted by redline

I would recommend you use a detail spray after the soap has been rinsed off because of possible grit still left on the car. I am sure this works well but I wouldn't chance it. Get one peice in your claybar and say goodnight to your clear.

Sometime we do that. Usually when my boss does it he just uses the soap. But since the cars are getting pressure washed before the soap goes on i guess he doesnt feel the need to do it. But then he is always folding over the clay bar once it picks up some dirt.

[SeMaxima99]

Originally Posted by rickeo

-Zaino Z16 "perfect tire gloss" (only zaino product i fork over the dough for... No other tire shine i have tried, and that be many, has surpassed it)
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I can surpass that by a lot or atleast id try it and be quite confident it would. There is this product that we use but only on our own cars now since its the last 4 gallons left on the east coast. (at least its not sold in stores anymore) It was recalled for not being VOC compliant so its no longer able to be sold in costal states. If you come to the wc photo meet 3 ill bring some. It will not come off because of water and will not spray onto the side of the car from driving.

[CHAOS]

Originally Posted by tjf

how does everyone feel about the clay bar, yeay or neay?

how hard are they to use?

they are great for what they do... removing contaminents from the paint etc etc... they are not hard to use, its just time consuming.

[CHAOS]

Originally Posted by ToyotaTat

anybody have a reccomendation for something to clean my headliner? it's disgustingly stained...btw it's grey cloth

i hear alot of people like woolite cut with water... just dab in on and DONT RUB ... u dont want to soak the headliner either... it could potential ruin it.

[CHAOS]

rickeo - youve got some nice stuff there... i see a lot of good reviews about the CG line up... and how do you like that schmitt? ive wondered how it works?

[rickeo]

Originally Posted by SeMaxima99

I can surpass that by a lot or atleast id try it and be quite confident it would. There is this product that we use but only on our own cars now since its the last 4 gallons left on the east coast. (at least its not sold in stores anymore) It was recalled for not being VOC compliant so its no longer able to be sold in costal states. If you come to the wc photo meet 3 ill bring some. It will not come off because of water and will not spray onto the side of the car from driving.

TOL Grape? LOL, a buddy of mine has that, he had someone ship it to him privately. I tried it last week, and i like the way it finishes, but it seemed like it took at least 2 coats to look even. But i will agree, it was very good. But for now ill stick with my "legal" Z16, lol

Originally Posted by CHAOS

rickeo - youve got some nice stuff there... i see a lot of good reviews about the CG line up... and how do you like that schmitt? ive wondered how it works?

Well while it lasts i loved it, if you ever try one you'll see its not very durable. It tears easily on any little snag it gets caught on, but i guess thats a testament to its softness?? Mine has gotten way to beat up so Paul at CG threw in one of their MF Chenille mitts for me to try. Im probably going to just stick with that.

[CHAOS]

i really like the lambswool mit i got from chris at GGD... very soft and the bug remover side is nice to have as well

[SeMaxima99]

Originally Posted by SeMaxima99

Ardex: Blue Soap for the rims, Pink wax soap for the car, Glass Cleaner. Purple cleaner wax(gotta check what it is not at work right now)

PRO: Bug Remover, amesome orange (best cleaner ever) Interior Shampoo, HD Interior cleaner

Meguires: 26 wax

Stoner: Spray Shine, Xenit, and carpet cleaner

Ill have to update it with more when i get to work i just cant seem to remember what products i just know what ones to use and when.

In addition to that:
Ardex: A foam (if we run out of awesome orange or need something less aggressive), detailers pro glasss cleaner, wax and wash (pink stuff from above), 5213 car wash (blue stuff from above), 6220 dull away lemon scent, 4216 diamond crystal four (best to get out scuff marks with hand or a high speed)

Pro: proshine (heavier then stoners spray shin for the cars with alot of plastic trim on the outside), wheel brightner (acid for the break dust only when its really baked on), wheelie clean (diluted 1:1 works great for break dust), upholstery and carpet cleaner (liquidy), clear rubber dressing (used for tire shine: Could use ideas of others that arent too expensive), non corrosive cleaner/ degreaser (engine compartment)

Stoner: upholstery & carpet cleaner (if we run out of awesome orange or need something less aggressive)

Northern tool and equipment: spray wax (made wit carnuba (sp) )

Wonderwafers (best longest lasting scent)

[SeMaxima99]

Originally Posted by rickeo

TOL Grape? LOL, a buddy of mine has that, he had someone ship it to him privately. I tried it last week, and i like the way it finishes, but it seemed like it took at least 2 coats to look even. But i will agree, it was very good. But for now ill stick with my "legal" Z16, lol

I couldnt find out the name of it on the jug, Ill have to ask my boss when i go back for my second shift tonight.

[ndtechie05]

Grape is the way to go...at least the non-VOC compliant one. They now have a VOC compliant one and from what I've heard it's not as good as the old stuff. The thing I like about grape is that it gets deeper on every pass, not too shiny and not a matte like Z16. +1 on the MF Chenille mitt, I like mine lots, paid too much for it where I saw a 3 pack at BJ's for 8.99...hmmmm

Originally Posted by rickeo

TOL Grape? LOL, a buddy of mine has that, he had someone ship it to him privately. I tried it last week, and i like the way it finishes, but it seemed like it took at least 2 coats to look even. But i will agree, it was very good. But for now ill stick with my "legal" Z16, lol




Well while it lasts i loved it, if you ever try one you'll see its not very durable. It tears easily on any little snag it gets caught on, but i guess thats a testament to its softness?? Mine has gotten way to beat up so Paul at CG threw in one of their MF Chenille mitts for me to try. Im probably going to just stick with that.

[ndtechie05]

I have some Product X I purchased from someone. How do you apply? By hand, PC/which pad/speed? I know you have to LSP it with a wax, which I don't do on my own car but other cars I've worked on I top with Natty's Red wax.

Originally Posted by redline

Products I stand by and use often

Sonus SFX Polish
Sonus SFX Pads
PC 7424
Pinnacle Souveran
Meg. 26
Meg. Show car glaze
3M perfict-it Swirl Remover
Zaino Clay
Blue Coral Product-X Glaze
Blue Coral Car Wash Soap
Dawn Dish Soap

[redline]

Originally Posted by ndtechie05

I have some Product X I purchased from someone. How do you apply? By hand, PC/which pad/speed? I know you have to LSP it with a wax, which I don't do on my own car but other cars I've worked on I top with Natty's Red wax.

Is it Pink? I haven't seen this stuff on the market in a long time! I applied it by hand with a microfiber pad. It doesn't last very long but it is very easy to use. have any more?

[ndtechie05]

Originally Posted by redline

Is it Pink? I haven't seen this stuff on the market in a long time! I applied it by hand with a microfiber pad. It doesn't last very long but it is very easy to use. have any more?

Yes it is pink, got it off autopia from someone. I have 32oz of it. I haven't used it yet.