Review: 2010 Honda Civic Si HFP not fast, is curious - Page 3 - TriStateTuners.com :: Home of Tristate Auto Enthusiast

jen. · 07-29-2010, 03:34 PM

I love my slow 07 civic si

That being said, this article was not breaking news. Si's are not the quickest cars out of the box, and most of the HFP parts are a total waste of money if you're looking for significant performance changes because they really focus more on aesthetics, but this is also well known.

I think this is right on the money, though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420sx

The ONLY reason I switched to Nissan is because they made a 2door rwd car with a back seat that was in my pricerange. The S2000 was in my pricerange, but thats a car thats practical for.. hmm.. nobody? ... I think Honda has just lost sight of what their customers want. They need to break out of their FWD only comfort zone, and give us an AWD or RWD car that could be a practical daily. Either some Evo/Sti competition, or some Genesis competition.

And Acura just needs to give up altogether. Have you seen that new TL? Looks like they flew it in from Mars.

Either way, this article seems to state what is mostly obvious about the car. And although this is being nit-picky, those who test drove the car probably did not figure out how to work the lighting on the speedometer, because you can manually make it lighter or darker depending on the time of day, and set your own personal preferences so that you don't have to "monkey around" with it all the time. Also, I've never almost run out of gas from not being able to see the gauge- but I suppose that's because I have my steering wheel positioned correctly, and I'm kind of short.

I didn't find this article to be all that negative, either. The author really didn't bring anything negative to anyone's attention that almost all si owners I know don't already complain about, anyway. I know some people are responding like this was totally flaming Honda owners, but really, who wouldn't like to see a little more power out of the si? Also, I would agree with the author that the smoothness of the transmission, the torque (being a FWD car), and the suspension, are all qualities of the car that make it totally fun to drive.

In the end, I own a slow Honda and absolutely love it, but at the same time I can agree with a lot of what this article says. I guess it's just not new news to me.

Elliott18t · 07-29-2010, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jen.

I love my slow 07 civic si

That being said, this article was not breaking news. Si's are not the quickest cars out of the box, and most of the HFP parts are a total waste of money if you're looking for significant performance changes because they really focus more on aesthetics, but this is also well known.

I think this is right on the money, though:

Either way, this article seems to state what is mostly obvious about the car. And although this is being nit-picky, those who test drove the car probably did not figure out how to work the lighting on the speedometer, because you can manually make it lighter or darker depending on the time of day, and set your own personal preferences so that you don't have to "monkey around" with it all the time. Also, I've never almost run out of gas from not being able to see the gauge- but I suppose that's because I have my steering wheel positioned correctly, and I'm kind of short.

I didn't find this article to be all that negative, either. The author really didn't bring anything negative to anyone's attention that almost all si owners I know don't already complain about, anyway. I know some people are responding like this was totally flaming Honda owners, but really, who wouldn't like to see a little more power out of the si? Also, I would agree with the author that the smoothness of the transmission, the torque (being a FWD car), and the suspension, are all qualities of the car that make it totally fun to drive.

In the end, I own a slow Honda and absolutely love it, but at the same time I can agree with a lot of what this article says. I guess it's just not new news to me.

yay, you actually read the article

. (not being sarcastic)

renn · 07-29-2010, 03:38 PM

Forgot to even mention a I/E and a Kpro will make like 220 to the wheels all motor.

tranceporter · 07-29-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by renn

Forgot to even mention a I/E and a Kpro will make like 220 to the wheels all motor.

^ exactly. comparing these cars stock for stock is pointless. these cars all open up with bolt-on's and a tune. they're not evo's but they become really fun for a practical car

MattBear · 07-29-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tranceporter

^ exactly. comparing these cars stock for stock is pointless. these cars all open up with bolt-on's and a tune. they're not evo's but they become really fun for a practical car

point of the article, the civic Si is overpriced, and underperforming for what it is/does.

tranceporter · 07-29-2010, 04:09 PM

pretty sure it says the hfp civic si is over priced for what it's supposed to do. that's granted for any car you buy with dealer installed parts. like the article says, they're targeting people who aren't familiar with the aftermarket market or who aren't even full on car enthusiasts. you can buy an sti with all the subaru spt parts on it and it won't be much faster than stock without an ecu reflash / tune.

Vr-4-Life · 07-29-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jpalamar

So it just confrimed that Honda is overrated. Didn't see that coming. our HHR SS will outrun, out handle it, and costs about the same... and its a freaking school bus!

you know... now that you say that... it does look like one haha

92accordex · 07-29-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TunedIS300

yup thats me been heading down there past couple of weeks on sundays.

Cars nice man. If i see you there sunday ill say whats up or vice versa

Ej6Mike · 07-29-2010, 05:04 PM

I was never particularily impressed with the 06-current SI's. I worked at a dealership and got to play around with them from time to time and they never wowed me. This is especially true because allot of the ppl i worked with had these cars, and at the end of a long hard day, we would all race outta that place to get home, and my swapped 97 civic (Properly running 3-stage d15b) kept pace right with these guys, who were pushing to redline each time.

yick yack · 07-29-2010, 05:30 PM

it's an economy car.... not a performance car...

FocusDude · 07-29-2010, 05:39 PM

You are all calling these Economy cars, there's no economy in a car with 2 doors starting at 20k+... check out the B segment.

Slick 87 · 07-29-2010, 06:52 PM

If you ask me, they have always had the performance mindset of doing more with less. (think small but well engineered engines, with less power then the competition i.e. nsx and s2000) the civic si seems to fit in with this. less power, but amazing handling for its class, to get around a track quickly. Cars that are more rewarding in the hands of a skilled driver, where crazy hp cant mask mistakes.

i too do not like the direction Honda is going though, but I'm sure they have their financial reasons for doing so.

Glad I have my s2000! Last of the true performance Honda's for the foreseeable future.

venhith · 07-30-2010, 10:34 AM

lol yup my Si is slow. paid 18.5k OTD new. will admit its not the fastest car around but they are a fun DD.

venhith · 07-30-2010, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yick yack

it's an economy car.... not a performance car...

Why are you calling this an economy car? cuz of the MPG?

renn · 07-30-2010, 03:04 PM

it is an economy car, a sporty one but still an economy car. people who look at any of these cars with the mindset that it's a race car won't be impressed.

Honduh · 07-30-2010, 03:52 PM

Even though I know the article wasn't meant to exactly hate on honda's, the way the OP presented and laughed at the end was him clearly trying to dump on hondas.

Its typical vw owner fashion to hate on hondas for some odd reason, but you never see it the other way around. Go to waterfest or any other vdub show and you can find stickers, shirts, hats, ect. Expressing a total hate and lack of respect for anyone who drives a honda, its disgusting. Go to a honda-day and all you see is puerto rican flags.........lol....but you never see them singling out or hating on anyone specific.

Ryan, I didn't think you were like this.

yick yack · 07-30-2010, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venhith

Why are you calling this an economy car? cuz of the MPG?

Because a Honda Civic is a economy car...

Supraru · 07-30-2010, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renn

Forgot to even mention a I/E and a Kpro will make like 220 to the wheels all motor.

Cool brah.

gotvtec? · 07-30-2010, 09:12 PM

Si>gti, ser gli any generation

gotvtec? · 07-30-2010, 09:24 PM

For a n/a 2.0 it puts down 200 hp thats pretty impressive

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07-29-2010, 03:38 PM	#43
renn Tri-State Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: NJ Member #13821 iTrader: (1)	Forgot to even mention a I/E and a Kpro will make like 220 to the wheels all motor.

07-29-2010, 04:09 PM	#46
tranceporter Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NY \| NJ Member #8224 My Ride: 2007 Honda S2000 iTrader: (0)	pretty sure it says the hfp civic si is over priced for what it's supposed to do. that's granted for any car you buy with dealer installed parts. like the article says, they're targeting people who aren't familiar with the aftermarket market or who aren't even full on car enthusiasts. you can buy an sti with all the subaru spt parts on it and it won't be much faster than stock without an ecu reflash / tune.

07-29-2010, 05:30 PM	#50
yick yack Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bensalem Member #8377 My Ride: FXT iTrader: (0)	it's an economy car.... not a performance car...

07-29-2010, 06:52 PM	#52
Slick 87 Tri-State Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chalfont / West Chester Member #13784 My Ride: 2006 6 speed accord and 2007 Honda S2000 iTrader: (0)	If you ask me, they have always had the performance mindset of doing more with less. (think small but well engineered engines, with less power then the competition i.e. nsx and s2000) the civic si seems to fit in with this. less power, but amazing handling for its class, to get around a track quickly. Cars that are more rewarding in the hands of a skilled driver, where crazy hp cant mask mistakes. i too do not like the direction Honda is going though, but I'm sure they have their financial reasons for doing so. Glad I have my s2000! Last of the true performance Honda's for the foreseeable future.

07-30-2010, 10:34 AM	#53
venhith Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: May 2010 Location: Red Bank NJ Member #16554 My Ride: 09 FA5 iTrader: (0)	lol yup my Si is slow. paid 18.5k OTD new. will admit its not the fastest car around but they are a fun DD.

07-30-2010, 03:04 PM	#55
renn Tri-State Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: NJ Member #13821 iTrader: (1)	it is an economy car, a sporty one but still an economy car. people who look at any of these cars with the mindset that it's a race car won't be impressed.

07-30-2010, 03:52 PM	#56
Honduh Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Member #1977 iTrader: (0)	Even though I know the article wasn't meant to exactly hate on honda's, the way the OP presented and laughed at the end was him clearly trying to dump on hondas. Its typical vw owner fashion to hate on hondas for some odd reason, but you never see it the other way around. Go to waterfest or any other vdub show and you can find stickers, shirts, hats, ect. Expressing a total hate and lack of respect for anyone who drives a honda, its disgusting. Go to a honda-day and all you see is puerto rican flags.........lol....but you never see them singling out or hating on anyone specific. Ryan, I didn't think you were like this.