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Oakes · 02-09-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL

I'm gonna guess father/house owner, lifeguard but not Sue because she's not a doctor/family member, etc. and not the cop because they have no obligation to help individuals when off duty?

That's actually off. The cop is just as guilty as the lifeguard as they are typically trained to perform CPR and operate defibrillators and such, on or off duty, that knowledge is still there. HOWEVER, there may be exceptions to the case for an officer...

**Big_Jim** · 02-09-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakes

Oh yeah, btw...

WTF IS JUICE!?!?!

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sleeper15 · 02-09-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Foolinaround

Sean to answer you question,ill provide you with a scenario

Joe bob sue and mark are all standing around at a pool party. A child falls into the pool and drowns since no one saved it in time joe is an off duty cop, bob is the house owner and father of the child that died,sue is just a neighbor hanging out,and mark is the life guard hired for the pool for the day. How many,if any,of the above can be prosecuted and why?

lets see

sue is in the clear, do to the good samaritan, i think

bob should be in the clear, cause he did make the precaution of hiring a life guard for his pool.

now, both mark and joe duties are to protect and save lives, but, if they did stand around and do nothing, it would be a different story. but, if they both acted to help try to save the child's life, they should be in the clear as well.

so, to me, it all depends on if joe and mark actually tried to save the child's life, or did they just sit around and do nothing.

ASIAN JUL · 02-09-2010, 03:15 PM

But what if the cop isn't trained in CPR?

Oakes · 02-09-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL

But what if the cop isn't trained in CPR?

Um...for the same reason every cop is trained to use a gun, they are trained for CPR. Why would a community risk putting just one cop out there who might by chance be the only cop around to resuscitate someone and he doesn't know CPR? Ruin the entire image of the police force that protects the community.

ASIAN JUL · 02-09-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakes

Um...for the same reason every cop is trained to use a gun, they are trained for CPR. Why would a community risk putting just one cop out there who might by chance be the only cop around to resuscitate someone and he doesn't know CPR? Ruin the entire image of the police force that protects the community.

I don't know, but I'm pretty sure I've heard/read somewhere that not all cops are trained in CPR.

Oakes · 02-09-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL

I don't know, but I'm pretty sure I've heard/read somewhere that not all cops are trained in CPR.

Pretty reliable source of info you have there.

sleeper15 · 02-09-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL

But what if the cop isn't trained in CPR?

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Originally Posted by Oakes

Um...for the same reason every cop is trained to use a gun, they are trained for CPR. Why would a community risk putting just one cop out there who might by chance be the only cop around to resuscitate someone and he doesn't know CPR? Ruin the entire image of the police force that protects the community.

what nick said. hell, even when i was in the navy, as a electrician, i had to be certified in CPR, and same as wheni was base security.

DPancoast · 02-09-2010, 03:26 PM

omf fartmuffins

ASIAN JUL · 02-09-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakes

Pretty reliable source of info you have there.

It was a law class but it was a year and a half ago and I don't remember every stipulation it entailed.

All I know is CPR is very dangerous if you don't 100% know what you're doing.

sleeper15 · 02-09-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DPancoast

omf fartmuffins

fartmuffins?

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL

It was a law class but it was a year and a half ago and I don't remember every stipulation it entailed.

All I know is CPR is very dangerous if you don't 100% know what you're doing.

thats why there's good samaritan laws out there.

angdefeo · 02-09-2010, 03:33 PM

Philadelphia police officers are trained in CPR.

angdefeo · 02-09-2010, 03:37 PM

The only person liable is the life guard. Everyone else is in the clear.

In that scenario the happy people will be lawyers. Between the lawsuits that will be filed, the one's doing the suing and the others defending will all get paid.

Foolinaround · 02-09-2010, 03:45 PM

Actually julz was the only one to get it right,the life guard is by contract legally responsible,as is the father due to it being his child. The off duty cop has no legal connection to the child that died so he is in the clear as is sue. Now if the father went to court and said he couldnt swim,hes now not legally responsible. The law is that you can only be held responsible in the case of the father,if you did everything you could without putting yourself at risk as well.

So annoying

ASIAN JUL · 02-09-2010, 03:46 PM

http://galvestondailynews.com/story....8b22f0d0576986 .. Apparently the obligation to perform CPR differs with every police department...

Oakes · 02-09-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sleeper15

what nick said. hell, even when i was in the navy, as a electrician, i had to be certified in CPR, and same as wheni was base security.

check

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Originally Posted by angdefeo

Philadelphia police officers are trained in CPR.

mate

sleeper15 · 02-09-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Foolinaround

Actually julz was the only one to get it right,the life guard is by contract legally responsible,as is the father due to it being his child. The off duty cop has no legal connection to the child that died so he is in the clear as is sue. Now if the father went to court and said he couldnt swim,hes now not legally responsible. The law is that you can only be held responsible in the case of the father,if you did everything you could without putting yourself at risk as well.

So annoying

not to sound funny, but, what if the life guard then said "I can't swim either."

sorry, had too.

sleeper15 · 02-09-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL

http://galvestondailynews.com/story....8b22f0d0576986 .. Apparently the obligation to perform CPR differs with every police department...

i was only certified in doing cpr to adults, no not to childern and infants.

ASIAN JUL · 02-09-2010, 03:51 PM

My point is duty to rescue is apparently not an absolute when it comes to LEOs so.. Don't see how I was wrong

Oakes · 02-09-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL

My point is duty to rescue is apparently not an absolute when it comes to LEOs so.. Don't see how I was wrong

My point was LEOs are trained to perform CPR, which you believed otherwise, and I assessed that point.

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angdefeo Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Phila Member #14238 My Ride: 09 WRX STi, 10 Evo X iTrader: (3)	The only person liable is the life guard. Everyone else is in the clear. In that scenario the happy people will be lawyers. Between the lawsuits that will be filed, the one's doing the suing and the others defending will all get paid.