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angdefeo · 11-03-2009, 04:21 PM

^ were you working when the last strike heppened? i am trying to figure out how many years ago it was.

**Big_Jim** · 11-03-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by angdefeo

^ were you working when the last strike heppened? i am trying to figure out how many years ago it was.

in 05 for a week, and before that was (pretty sure) 98 for 40 days.

angdefeo · 11-03-2009, 04:26 PM

I just heard and advert for this product on the radio. I thought it was a joke until I searched it and found it. Its for real, here is a link take a look:

http://www.freshballs.com/

jpalamar · 11-03-2009, 04:28 PM

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I just heard and advert for this product on the radio. I thought it was a joke until I searched it and found it. Its for real, here is a link take a look:

http://www.freshballs.com/

Nice find!

Oakes · 11-03-2009, 04:29 PM

I'm not friends with any of you, I wouldn't even give a second glance if you were laying in the street begging for food. ESPECIALLY Chaos.

99SL2_Modder · 11-03-2009, 04:31 PM

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Then please edge-a-ma-kate me?

The problem is when you read that, it does not mention the other issues, specifically the outsourcing of work to out of state firms who are not responsible for the work they perform. This work is often substandard and needs to be redone once back in the region, very inefficient, and dangerous to you if the slipshod work fails to be detected. It is also not very efficient to need to pay twice for the same job.

This bargaining point would probably lower the raise demands and the healthcare input of the employees, but the media seems to have missed that part.

Also, I expect no sympathy while the media continues to show salary demands that high and the too low contribution to my healthcare. (Remember, only teachers, politicians, and CEOs deserve decent wages and benefits, nobody else.)

Seriously though, 3% raises and a 2% increase in healthcare contributions would be a fair compromise, which is a better deal than the local teachers will ever put on the table to a school board.

Hey remember, these busses/trains are what your kids ride on to and from school. Do you want poorly paid , poorly trained people to work on them and drive them and be responsible for their lives for 2 hours each day? Just throwing the same old line out there the teachers use.

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Originally Posted by angdefeo

^ were you working when the last strike heppened? i am trying to figure out how many years ago it was.

No, 2005.

99SL2_Modder · 11-03-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Jim

in 05 for a week, and before that was (pretty sure) 98 for 40 days.

Yes. 01 there was no strike as a contract was signed the day the strike was to happen.

HickRocket1258 · 11-03-2009, 04:37 PM

SL2 what do you do again?

jpalamar · 11-03-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder

The problem is when you read that, it does not mention the other issues, specifically the outsourcing of work to out of state firms who are not responsible for the work they perform. This work is often substandard and needs to be redone once back in the region, very inefficient, and dangerous to you if the slipshod work fails to be detected. It is also not very efficient to need to pay twice for the same job.

Isn't that how must companies work? How is that any different then most companes. Ex. How many times have you ever called a 1-800 number whether its Dell, Sony, ect.. and had someone who could barely speak English on the phone. Outsourcing saves the company money in the end, or people wouldn't do it as they want to make money. If it didn't work, it wiouldn't be widely practiced.

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Also, I expect no sympathy while the media continues to show salary demands that high and the too low contribution to my healthcare. (Remember, only teachers, politicians, and CEOs deserve decent wages and benefits, nobody else.)

Seriously though, 3% raises and a 2% increase in healthcare contributions would be a fair compromise, which is a better deal than the local teachers will ever put on the table to a school board.

Have you seen that MOST companies aren't giving out raises. Many are even doing salary decreases so a cost of living raise isn't a reasonable expectation durring a recession.

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Hey remember, these busses/trains are what your kids ride on to and from school. Do you want poorly paid , poorly trained people to work on them and drive them and be responsible for their lives for 2 hours each day? Just throwing the same old line out there the teachers use.

I didn't grow up in Philly and currently don't live there. But form what I've seen, bus drivers anywhere are typically lower call people as it is an unskilled job. Plus we are still alive. Are people in Philadelphia different? NOPE!

**Big_Jim** · 11-03-2009, 04:39 PM

the strike in 98 sucked, i was in summer school that year, and had no way to get there lol

99SL2_Modder · 11-03-2009, 04:41 PM

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I didn't grow up in Philly and currently don't live there. But form what I've seen, bus drivers anywhere are typically lower call people as it is an unskilled job. Plus we are still alive. Are people in Philadelphia different? NOPE!

You're still focusing on drivers, and that's not the case here. EXPAND your knowledge!

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SL2 what do you do again?

Heavy diesel mechanic.

Roto · 11-03-2009, 04:42 PM

I hate Septa strikes... they bring the incapable drivers back on the roads...

99SL2_Modder · 11-03-2009, 04:43 PM

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I hate Septa strikes... they bring the incapable drivers back on the roads...

Oh yeah, because our operators are SOOO much better, lulz.

Had to say it before someone else did.

Roto · 11-03-2009, 04:46 PM

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Oh yeah, because our operators are SOOO much better, lulz.

Had to say it before someone else did.

No, but I can anticipate a bus running a red light... I can't anticipate the 60 fools that take that bus daily that suddenly are driving during rush hour...

99SL2_Modder · 11-03-2009, 04:47 PM

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No, but I can anticipate a bus running a red light... I can't anticipate the 60 fools that take that bus daily that suddenly are driving during rush hour...

So true. Sometimes more than 60. And half their cars are spewing oil and smoke all over...

Roto · 11-03-2009, 04:48 PM

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So true. Sometimes more than 60. And half their cars are spewing oil and smoke all over...

Yeah, I forget how much the Regional Rail carries in a single train, but damn, that's too many people driving..

angdefeo · 11-03-2009, 04:49 PM

I think that most of the people who use buses and subways on a daily basis dotn have cars.

99SL2_Modder · 11-03-2009, 04:50 PM

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Yeah, I forget how much the Regional Rail carries in a single train, but damn, that's too many people driving..

RR isn't on strike. Different union and contract.

Roto · 11-03-2009, 04:52 PM

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RR isn't on strike. Different union and contract.

Blah, sorry, I don't follow what's what. To me Septa is one entity, but that jsut shows my ignorance about how it's run... all I know is that my commute is longer now.

99SL2_Modder · 11-03-2009, 04:54 PM

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Blah, sorry, I don't follow what's what. To me Septa is one entity, but that jsut shows my ignorance about how it's run... all I know is that my commute is longer now.

It has like 7 different unions, lol.

11-03-2009, 04:29 PM	#56465
Oakes Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Chester Member #4384 My Ride: 2010 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG iTrader: (0)	I'm not friends with any of you, I wouldn't even give a second glance if you were laying in the street begging for food. ESPECIALLY Chaos. __________________ Team Oakes: I dont give a ****!

11-03-2009, 04:37 PM	#56468
HickRocket1258 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Member #415 iTrader: (0)	SL2 what do you do again? __________________ -Rob Just a mustang that's lowered.....that's about it. Work harder....Millions on welfare depend on you!

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11-03-2009, 04:21 PM	#56461
angdefeo Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Phila Member #14238 My Ride: 09 WRX STi, 10 Evo X iTrader: (3)	^ were you working when the last strike heppened? i am trying to figure out how many years ago it was.

11-03-2009, 04:26 PM	#56463
angdefeo Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Phila Member #14238 My Ride: 09 WRX STi, 10 Evo X iTrader: (3)	I just heard and advert for this product on the radio. I thought it was a joke until I searched it and found it. Its for real, here is a link take a look: http://www.freshballs.com/

11-03-2009, 04:39 PM	#56470
Big_Jim Dealing with stupidity. Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Member #7592 iTrader: (6)	the strike in 98 sucked, i was in summer school that year, and had no way to get there lol

11-03-2009, 04:49 PM	#56477
angdefeo Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Phila Member #14238 My Ride: 09 WRX STi, 10 Evo X iTrader: (3)	I think that most of the people who use buses and subways on a daily basis dotn have cars.