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[DC2.2GSR]

Originally Posted by Munky

...How was the shoot today? Did anyone actually go?!?! No pics?!?!

I only had my camera out for a few minutes. I completely failed the 'are your batteries charged' test with not one, but two cameras. My DSLR died after like 5 pics. I was also planning on mounting my GoPro like 20 ft away from the exploding targets but nooooo of course, dead batteries Next time I'll get some good pics and HD video.

They sure aren't 'action' pics, but these are 3 of 5 that I took before the battery crapped out.

[~Brian~]

Sorry I missed the shoot, looks like it was fun

[Munky]

No pics of exploding targets...

[99corvette]

nice mini 14

[DC2.2GSR]

Originally Posted by Munky

No pics of exploding targets...

nah I was pissed about the battery thing. I was planning on taking pics the whole time but yeah, that didn't work out. lol. Next time we get to shoot there or elsewhere that we can bring some, I'll buy some of the targets too so we can blow more s*** up.

[angdefeo]

Originally Posted by Munky

Man I would love to hit that up but I'm going out to Harrisburg for work. Someone tell me if they have a Gen3 Glock 34 on hand and tell them to put it on hold for me

i spoke to the glock rep on saturday about the Gen3 Glock 34. He told me there are plenty available as Glock is not yet producing a Gen3 34. The sale price on it this weekend was high $500's, sorry i dont remember the exact amount. The price was contigent on ordering it Saturday.

But the good news was that if you want one, a gun store should be able to get one for you from the distributor they use. It may just come down to wating for delivery which should only be a few days.

[ein]

Looks right at home there....

[99corvette]

Originally Posted by ein

Looks right at home there....

thats what i thought too

[Munky]

Originally Posted by angdefeo

i spoke to the glock rep on saturday about the Gen3 Glock 34. He told me there are plenty available as Glock is not yet producing a Gen3 34. The sale price on it this weekend was high $500's, sorry i dont remember the exact amount. The price was contigent on ordering it Saturday.

But the good news was that if you want one, a gun store should be able to get one for you from the distributor they use. It may just come down to wating for delivery which should only be a few days.

Cool thanks for the heads up. Yeah I already ordered a XD-9 Tactical to hold me over until a G34 comes in for me. He said it could be soon or a month or two. Either way I'll have a new gun Wednesday and another on the way. I think I have issues and that I'll never see my 240 again.

[92awdtsi]

Originally Posted by motorvated

99corvette..how do you like that P22? I realllly like those hand guns and im looking for input from owners.

i have one as well and i love it.

[motorvated]

So I have a question...Could someone describe what they would do if they were CC on the street and someone approached them with a knife and or a gun? I just want to know what your reactions would be if someone pulled a knife or gun on you and you yourself were carrying.

[SvicksTc]

Originally Posted by motorvated

So I have a question...Could someone describe what they would do if they were CC on the street and someone approached them with a knife and or a gun? I just want to know what your reactions would be if someone pulled a knife or gun on you and you yourself were carrying.

A lot of variables come into play within those scenarios, Its best to educate yourself as much as you can about the laws, training with the weapon, setting, location, how you were approached (front/behind/ambushed), etc, etc, etc

a questions like this i dont think anyone will or can give you a straight answer too, i know i cant

[DC2.2GSR]

Originally Posted by motorvated

So I have a question...Could someone describe what they would do if they were CC on the street and someone approached them with a knife and or a gun? I just want to know what your reactions would be if someone pulled a knife or gun on you and you yourself were carrying.

Originally Posted by SvicksTc

A lot of variables come into play within those scenarios, Its best to educate yourself as much as you can about the laws, training with the weapon, setting, location, how you were approached (front/behind/ambushed), etc, etc, etc

a questions like this i dont think anyone will or can give you a straight answer too, i know i cant

Exactly. There is no definitive answer. You do your best to educate and train yourself, then apply what you know to the situation at hand. Every situation is infinitely different so your reaction to each specific situation will be different as well. Above all, you must stay alive and keep your loved ones alive. If, in order to stay alive, I am forced to draw and shoot someone, then I will do it without hesitation. However, if I am certain that staying alive is as simple as running away, then that's what I'll do.

[motorvated]

So if you have a LTC and you get in an altercation somewhere not in your house, and you end up shooting and injuring or killing someone...whats the law here? Is it automatic jail time?

[DC2.2GSR]

Originally Posted by motorvated

So if you have a LTC and you get in an altercation somewhere not in your house, and you end up shooting and injuring or killing someone...whats the law here? Is it automatic jail time?

There's nothing black/white about 'use of deadly force' situations. You learn the laws and use your best judgment. There are tons of resources out there to help you learn the laws regarding use of deadly force in PA, you just have to do the research. A very good place to start would be taking a class that's conducted by a lawyer, which happens almost monthly through PAFOA.

[SvicksTc]

Originally Posted by motorvated

So if you have a LTC and you get in an altercation somewhere not in your house, and you end up shooting and injuring or killing someone...whats the law here? Is it automatic jail time?

def going to be some court time either way

[99corvette]

Originally Posted by SvicksTc

def going to be some court time either way

+1, if i ever have to use deadly force, i know i better have a good amount of money saved for court.

[rodder]

Originally Posted by SvicksTc

def going to be some court time either way

Not necessarily, and especially not after HB40 (stand your ground or castle doctrine law) is signed into law.

Even with current laws, if it's an obvious, cut and dry defensive shooting many times prosecutors will decline to press charges at all.

BTW, anyone here who lives in PA and thinks it would be stupid to prosecute someone for lawfully defending themselves should be busy writing letters and emails to their local representatives to get this passed into law. The law also prevents the injured (or deceased) or their family from suing their intended victim.

and just FYI, our previous governor (Ed Rendell) actually vetoed this law after it had been passed by both the house and senate with overwhelming approval at the end of his term last year. He apparently believes not only do you not have the right to defend yourself in public, but that if you are attacked and injure your attacker in the process of defending yourself that your ATTACKER should be able to sue YOU for damages.

[Munky]

New tack driver. Springfield Armory XD-9 Tactical I don't know why the blue background looks all pixelated. I guess when Flickr compressed them that's what happened.

[SvicksTc]

I was going to come in here and say i thought you were getting a new gun today were are the pics haha, nice pickup, pics are nice too