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Old 09-06-2007, 11:14 PM   #381
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What did rent go up to? I'm a member so I have no clue. As to ammo, walmart still has cheap ammo. If you want me to pick you some up, just pay me back at classic (or I'll shoot it all myself). It's still pretty cheap there (compared to my other ammo).

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Old 09-06-2007, 11:27 PM   #382
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Rent with utilites now is 850 up from 650 so That adds alittle bit to the budget. Oh well. Give me an idea of what Walmart is charging. Ill probably have you grab some boxes then. Ive got a place near me where I bought my Glock that has 10 boxes of WWB for 98 bucks. Ill have to see what the new price is with the great increase. I had a site that had WWB for 7.xx a box. Should have jumped on that. Its now at 12.16.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:44 PM   #383
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100rounds of winchester white box for 10.96 in 9mm, 100 rounds of .45acp for 28.96
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:12 AM   #384
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Dicks Sporting Goods has Remington UMC 9mm for 6.xx a box if you buy 10. 500rd of practice ammo for 70 bucks doesn't seem to bad for us who don't have Wal-marts that stock ammo.
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Old 09-17-2007, 01:08 PM   #385
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Damn it ,I can't link to imageshack anymore??? Here are my current favorites out of my collection (no pictures are 3 more plain jane AR's, and a couple of rifles and couple of shotguns).







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Old 09-17-2007, 01:20 PM   #386
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what is that gun called, a p90 ?

that looks sweet, i want to shoot a gun sometime
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Changed to [img] tags for you. I get jealous every time I see that P90.
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:30 PM   #388
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what is that gun called, a p90 ?

that looks sweet, i want to shoot a gun sometime
I have the sissified version, or pS90.

And thanks Mike, when I tried last time, it said the same thing. I guess it was just something temporary with imageshack. Also, I really need to start using my tripod.
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damn man. gun porn is always fun. did you sell the other AR?

The more and more I see stuff from FN the more and more I want one. Someone find me a FiveseveN. Its just sucks the local range doesn't allow their ammo to be shot there. The owner is an anti-FN guy. I was talking to the dude at the counter today and he was saying someone of the lobbyist trying to outlaw the 5.7x28mm ammo and the guns that use them. Don't they make a non-armor piercing round in that caliber?
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:31 PM   #390
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damn man. gun porn is always fun. did you sell the other AR?

The more and more I see stuff from FN the more and more I want one. Someone find me a FiveseveN. Its just sucks the local range doesn't allow their ammo to be shot there. The owner is an anti-FN guy. I was talking to the dude at the counter today and he was saying someone of the lobbyist trying to outlaw the 5.7x28mm ammo and the guns that use them. Don't they make a non-armor piercing round in that caliber?
No, I didn't sell the AR, and I am just going to hold on to it. I wanted a different gun, but I figure that I'll just hold off until I can comfortably afford to do so, without sacrificing any of my current guns.

FiveseveN's are all over the place, the problem with them is not only are they expensive initially ($800+ min), but ammo is expensive ($20-$30 for 50 rounds).

Your local range probably won't let you shoot it because it's a handgun range, and most handgun ranges won't allow cartridges that have super high velocities (out of the fiveseven, the velocity is almost 2000fps). It's the same thing as shooting .17, most indoor handgun ranges won't allow it.

The only true level III armor piercing out of the fiveseven is the SS190, it's no longer imported, nor is it sold by FFL's. It's also going for over $300/50 rounds (no misprint). Out of the P and PS90, the SS195, which is still available and cheap, is easily capable of piercing level III (but so can many rifle cartridges).

There is talk of people trying to ban the SS195 ammo as they did the SS190 and comparable rounds (the SS197 is just sporting), but no true movement has been made. It's do to the simple fact that out of rifles, many rounds are armor piercing, and more effective than the 5.7x28. However, my local shop, Claytons, refuses to sell it's leftover many thousands of rounds of SS195. Thankfully Tanners still sells/stocks the cheapest out there. ($20/50 rounds)
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No, I didn't sell the AR, and I am just going to hold on to it. I wanted a different gun, but I figure that I'll just hold off until I can comfortably afford to do so, without sacrificing any of my current guns.

FiveseveN's are all over the place, the problem with them is not only are they expensive initially ($800+ min), but ammo is expensive ($20-$30 for 50 rounds).

Your local range probably won't let you shoot it because it's a handgun range, and most handgun ranges won't allow cartridges that have super high velocities (out of the fiveseven, the velocity is almost 2000fps). It's the same thing as shooting .17, most indoor handgun ranges won't allow it.

The only true level III armor piercing out of the fiveseven is the SS190, it's no longer imported, nor is it sold by FFL's. It's also going for over $300/50 rounds (no misprint). Out of the P and PS90, the SS195, which is still available and cheap, is easily capable of piercing level III (but so can many rifle cartridges).

There is talk of people trying to ban the SS195 ammo as they did the SS190 and comparable rounds (the SS197 is just sporting), but no true movement has been made. It's do to the simple fact that out of rifles, many rounds are armor piercing, and more effective than the 5.7x28. However, my local shop, Claytons, refuses to sell it's leftover many thousands of rounds of SS195. Thankfully Tanners still sells/stocks the cheapest out there. ($20/50 rounds)

My next handgun is going to be a FiveseveN. 800+ actually isnt to bad considering HK's and Sig's go for around the same. I take it Classic doesn't have a problem since they are a rifle range also. I just know the owner of the range by me is a nazi with alot of stuff. If he doesn't like it then it doesn't allow it. I bet if he didn't like Glocks he'd find some way to ban them at his range. Ive got the membership meeting for the local range club by me so hopefully I can join there so I don't have to continuing going to this one.

I did buy a new toy tonight for the XD. It was kind of an impulse buy while I was at the range.



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Old 09-18-2007, 12:37 PM   #392
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My next handgun is going to be a FiveseveN. 800+ actually isnt to bad considering HK's and Sig's go for around the same. I take it Classic doesn't have a problem since they are a rifle range also. I just know the owner of the range by me is a nazi with alot of stuff. If he doesn't like it then it doesn't allow it. I bet if he didn't like Glocks he'd find some way to ban them at his range. Ive got the membership meeting for the local range club by me so hopefully I can join there so I don't have to continuing going to this one.

I did buy a new toy tonight for the XD. It was kind of an impulse buy while I was at the range.



Like I said though, it's not just the initial purchase price, it's the price of ammo also. Classic Pistol charges $30/50rounds, while Tanners charge $20/50, and lots of other places don't even have it. And no CP doesn't have a problem, my PS90 has been there plenty of times (almost 2800fps out of the 16" barrel).

So how many lumens is that bad boy? I need one for the HK, since that's my primary home defense anyway. Do they have a more compact version?
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:41 PM   #393
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Like I said though, it's not just the initial purchase price, it's the price of ammo also. Classic Pistol charges $30/50rounds, while Tanners charge $20/50, and lots of other places don't even have it. And no CP doesn't have a problem, my PS90 has been there plenty of times (almost 2800fps out of the 16" barrel).

So how many lumens is that bad boy? I need one for the HK, since that's my primary home defense anyway. Do they have a more compact version?

80 Lumen LED. That second pic was taken in a completely dark room with no windows or lights on. They call it blinding beam. You can see to how the light is one big ball in the center. Good little added protection against an intruder. They had the TLR-2 which is the flash/laser combo but I couldn't bring myself to spend that much on an accessory. I also bought a Kleen Bore cleaning kit. Not really use what most of it is thou. I need a good class on stripping, cleaning, and lubing firearms. The store by me charges 15 to clean so I might suck up the 30 bucks and get both cleaned and lubed.

And on the FN stuff. 20 bucks doesn't seem to bad. I wouldn't use it for a normal target gun. Its just one of those things you want. If I want to shoot cheap then Ill bring the 9mm. But I wouldn't mind spending acouple more bucks each time at the range to own a FiveseveN or even a PS90. I wish our state would easy up on the mag laws. Having more then 15rds in a gun isn't going to stop any crime. Its going to suck having an AR with a 10rd mag. What good is that? If I remember the one video I watched the PS90 doesnt have a 10rd mag option? I know the FiveseveN does.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:01 PM   #394
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That's a badass light! Damn those handgun mount lights are freaking expensive though!

Since I just need it for home and car, I'm going to skip the gun mount and get this toy...

http://cgi.ebay.com/SolarForce-3x-CR...QQcmdZViewItem

500 lumens, that should do it! I'm comfortable resting my shooting arm on the left/off arm, and I only plan on using it for home defense anyway. I just wonder how heavy it's going to be

Oh, and there ARE 15 round, NJ legal mags for the PS90.

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Damn, I think you should be able to see with thing. My question, why would you opt to use the USP over the Nova? Or is it missing from your collection from the lack of it in your pics?


I didnt know they made 15rd mags. I know they make a 10 and 20 for the handgun. Damn, that means one more gun to the list of WTB.
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Damn, I think you should be able to see with thing. My question, why would you opt to use the USP over the Nova? Or is it missing from your collection from the lack of it in your pics?


I didnt know they made 15rd mags. I know they make a 10 and 20 for the handgun. Damn, that means one more gun to the list of WTB.
I still have the nova, but it's too long of a barrel and overall gun for in home defense (at least in my home, as in most homes). It's heavy (compared to a handgun) and sluggish to maneuver, and there are only 5 shots (4+1) and then complete reload, over 8+1 and just dropping and inserting the mag in the usp.

And yes, I think I should be able to see my entire development with 500 lumens
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I can see that then. Im sure with that flashlight, and if I remember you had nightsights put on the USP you should be ok incase something happens. Heading to Classic possibly Friday if anyone wants to join
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I can see that then. Im sure with that flashlight, and if I remember you had nightsights put on the USP you should be ok incase something happens. Heading to Classic possibly Friday if anyone wants to join
Indeed it does! I had them on my glock, but you could see them through every shirt that I wore. The new holster hides them better, so Ill have to get them reinstalled. I MIGHT go tomorrow, not positive. And to add, even though I haven't been hunting in years, my pretty gun (it's not all black ) winchester 94. This was my first ever gun, given to me when I was 8 from my grandfather.

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There is enough black in there to make it acceptable. What kind of holster is that?

Ill probably be making it down there around 630
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There is enough black in there to make it acceptable. What kind of holster is that?

Ill probably be making it down there around 630
Comp tac Minotaur IWB holster. It wouldn't work with the lasermax on my glock (would turn it on), so they replaced the poly/plastic part for free to fit my HK. It's an awesome holster though, love it. I can't wait for colder weather when I get to ccw the hk instead of the glock.

I have dinner with the g/f's parents at around 6, so I won't be there until 8 or so (the g/f wants to go, maybe her dad also).
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