registering a pedal bike, what a joke

[den9]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

Bikes are a hazard to cars and othe people walking down the street. I'm all for it. Its still cheaper then a car. I pay tax to drive on the road, you can pay to ride you bike too.

people should be walking in the street. people cross the street when they arent suppose to all the time.

cars are a hazard to bikes.

i bet your one of those people who honk behind me while im riding my bike telling me to get on the sidewalk, cut me off, then hit a red light while i pass right through it.

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by den9

cars are a hazard to bikes.

i bet your one of those people who honk behind me while im riding my bike telling me to get on the sidewalk, cut me off, then hit a red light while i pass right through it.

And you bitch about people, when you pass right through the red light. List time I checked, which was earlier today as I looked up Philadelphia law for bikers, once on the road, you have to obide by the same rules as cars. Your braking the law. You just prooved your a tool

And I think cars have a right to say **** you get out of the way as we are paying for the road. Register your bike and pay the tax, then you have rights. Cars are a hazard to bikes because you are riding them on roads. Road = cars; bike lane =bike. If there is no bike lane, then you are on the road at your own risk.

[poolmike]

Another bureaucracy that will cost more to run than it brings in. Anyone that supports this and most other gov't run programs need to start punching themselves in the head until dead.

[den9]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

And you bitch about people, when you pass right through the red light. List time I checked, which was earlier today as I looked up Philadelphia law for bikers, once on the road, you have to obide by the same rules as cars. Your braking the law. You just prooved your a tool

And I think cars have a right to say **** you get out of the way as we are paying for the road. Register your bike and pay the tax, then you have rights. Cars are a hazard to bikes because you are riding them on roads. Road = cars; bike lane =bike. If there is no bike lane, then you are on the road at your own risk.

when bikes pass through red lights its not like they get in the way of cars, they wait until traffic is clear, just like anyone else crossing the street on feet would walk across when its clear. cars break the law all the time, and bicycles break the law all the time when they are riding on sidewalks. your an idiot if you think riding a bike on the street is a "ride at your own risk" deal.

i hope to god you dont prove yourself a tool next time you talk on your cell phone while driving, not wearing a seatbelt, or going over 6mph. god forbid someone breaks the law.

and how is riding a bike in the city any different from a motorcycle? i can keep up with traffic all day long, but they seem to get pissed off when they want to break the law and want to drive over 25mph. bicyclist and motorcycle riders are way more aware of their surroundings than a car driver.

and what makes you think bike riders dont pay taxes to be on the road?

[Zillon]

Anyone who drives a car and believes they have a right to use the road over a cyclist deserves a multi-tool through their windshield.

I'm sorry, but you don't own the road. So, please, kindly shut the f*** up.

[den9]

Originally Posted by Zillon

Anyone who drives a car and believes they have a right to use the road over a cyclist deserves a u-lock through their windshield.

I'm sorry, but you don't own the road. So, please, kindly shut the f*** up.

fixed for realism

[92dxman]

I'm curious to see what would happen with people from the burbs or people from out of town who are just riding around town for the day. Think they would have some sort of temp tag program?

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by den9

and how is riding a bike in the city any different from a motorcycle? i can keep up with traffic all day long, but they seem to get pissed off when they want to break the law and want to drive over 25mph. bicyclist and motorcycle riders are way more aware of their surroundings than a car driver.

If you can't keep up with the flow you are the hazard. No different then the old ass person on the highway going 50 when everyone else is going 65+.

And your riding your bike VS me riding my morotcycle is different. I paid to ride on the road you didn't. Plus I can keep uo with traffic. So deal.

[poolmike]

We ALL pay for the roads through the tax system that is already in place. People were dumb enough to let the auto registration go into affect years ago to 'help' pay for the roadways, however it is just another bureaucracy that can't afford itself. Why create another one for bicycles? Isn't it sort of counter-productive to the 'green' agenda? The city lost a lot of revenue, and with more bicycles than ever, it is a simple way for Philadelphia to inflict more financial pain on it's own citizens. Just one more reason for me to avoid that area.

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by poolmike

We ALL pay for the roads through the tax system that is already in place. People were dumb enough to let the auto registration go into affect years ago to 'help' pay for the roadways, however it is just another bureaucracy that can't afford itself. Why create another one for bicycles? Isn't it sort of counter-productive to the 'green' agenda? The city lost a lot of revenue, and with more bicycles than ever, it is a simple way for Philadelphia to inflict more financial pain on it's own citizens. Just one more reason for me to avoid that area.

Until the city makes its public tranportation green, they can't expect others to follow. Everytime I'm stuck behind a bus, I get smoked out.

On a side note, I don't thnk the law will ever pass though. But if they want to have bikes in the city for part of their green movement, they need to make proper paths for them. Sidewalks for peopple walking, roads for car, and paths for bikes. Creating the path for bike still costs money and it has to come from somewhere. I think bikers should pay for it. I think the city should contribute an equal percent of money to the paths as they do roads, and motorists/bikers pay the difference. Maybe registration isn't the key, maybe a toll booth type thing or tokens to use the path like the subway?

[stfusteph]

Right before this ad came out I was driving home with my dad and we were at a red light and a guy on a bicycle was going the same way went through the same red light and a car was coming the opposite way through the green light. The guy didnt get hit thank God but thats one of the reasons for getting bikes registered! I think it makes complete sence. As for people crossing at red lights they're not hurting anyone but theirselves.

[alexdoubleu]

i was riding my bike with a few friends in the city yesterday, and got stopped bultiple times by different officers, explaining to us the laws, and hassling us for not knowing about them, and having "un-registerd" bikes. rediculous.

[Zillon]

Originally Posted by stfusteph

Right before this ad came out I was driving home with my dad and we were at a red light and a guy on a bicycle was going the same way went through the same red light and a car was coming the opposite way through the green light. The guy didnt get hit thank God but thats one of the reasons for getting bikes registered! I think it makes complete sence. As for people crossing at red lights they're not hurting anyone but theirselves.

Yes, because requiring bike registration is a sure way to stop red-light runners.

[natethegreatt]

bikes don't need to be registered. people just need to learn to ride bikes attentively.
let the inattentive, careless bikers get hit by cars....survival of the fittest haha

two people got killed in philly. so what. 2 incidents of stupidity on both parties (pedestrian and biker) doesnt mean every biker is stupid.
and lets be honest, many people in philadelphia don't know how to walk

[Zillon]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

I paid to ride on the road you didn't.

No, we all pay for the roads, regardless of if we have a motor vehicle registered or not. You just happened to pay a little more for the same thing, providing said cyclist doesn't own a car.

However, most cyclists do own a car (except for those in a downtown region of a city), and thus have paid the same taxes that you paid to use the road. You don't have any more right to the road than anyone else using it.

[natethegreatt]

Originally Posted by Zillon

No, we all pay for the roads, regardless of if we have a motor vehicle registered or not. You just happened to pay a little more for the same thing, providing said cyclist doesn't own a car.

However, most cyclists do own a car (except for those in a downtown region of a city), and thus have paid the same taxes that you paid to use the road.

word
i was wondering why there "share the road" signs and bike lanes and laws against riding bikes on the sidewalk in the business district of center city if the streets werent meant for bikes too

[Vypurr]

Agreed with the bikers here. I used to ride my bike all over PSU. I didn't follow most traffic laws, but I also never put others in danger. Sure, I would ride down one way roads in the wrong direction, or cut into opposite lanes of traffic to go ahead of cars stopped at a traffic light. But at the end of the day, am I doing anything a person on foot wouldn't do? NO!

I am way more careful and conscious of the road around me when on my bicycle or motorcycle. If you want bicyclists off the roads, build feasable bike lanes that go where I need to go. Riding on the sidewalk in Philly is not an option because there is too much foot traffic, but riding in the roads and crossing red lights when people on foot are doing the same is perfectly ok by me!

[stfusteph]

Originally Posted by Zillon

Yes, because requiring bike registration is a sure way to stop red-light runners.

No, but maybe they'll actually pay attention to something they have to pay for.

[Vypurr]

No, that won't make a difference. They won't pay attention until tickets get handed out...which will never happen.

[stfusteph]

Either way, there are pro's and con's about the whole situation. Guess it's just integrity first.