Probably a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway.

[Nick Merrone]

Originally Posted by jen.

I paid $49 including shipping so I considered that a good price. My friend did the ordering, and he's always got lights from the same company so I assumed he knew what he was doing :/ I'm not sure if they were labeled offroad use only or not.

I had the EXACT same problem with my strut bars. Didnt know where i bought them from at first, but call paypal tell them whats going on they'll pull the money outta the guys account and itll instantly be in yours. I was surprised.

[jen.]

The result of this entire fiasco is almost too unbelievable to be true.

Apparently the company had a fake warehouse in Delaware. My friend somehow got this information, and to make an INCREDIBLY long story short, when they laughed in his face over the phone and blocked incoming calls from all sources with the exception of their suppliers, my friend got pissed, called both the US and Hong Kong embassies, and apparently the company is being shut down and employees are in trouble for illegal overseas shipping (or something along those lines). He didn't take kindly to their rudeness. He said they are refunding our money when the business gets shut down and finances are sorted out.

At this point, I don't really care. I don't have to pay any additional fees, my name is not attached to anything, and the extended story is so funny, it was worth the fifty bucks.

[PAFirefighter11]

Jen I am sending you a PM related to this...

[twastheglow]

Originally Posted by jen.

The result of this entire fiasco is almost too unbelievable to be true.

Apparently the company had a fake warehouse in Delaware. My friend somehow got this information, and to make an INCREDIBLY long story short, when they laughed in his face over the phone and blocked incoming calls from all sources with the exception of their suppliers, my friend got pissed, called both the US and Hong Kong embassies, and apparently the company is being shut down and employees are in trouble for illegal overseas shipping (or something along those lines). He didn't take kindly to their rudeness. He said they are refunding our money when the business gets shut down and finances are sorted out.

At this point, I don't really care. I don't have to pay any additional fees, my name is not attached to anything, and the extended story is so funny, it was worth the fifty bucks.

Dude...what?!?!?! You have a story as ****ing sweet as that and you don't get the WHOLE story?! I want to hear all the details to this. Come on now!

[Supraru]

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

First off, good luck in getting this cleared up. It definitely sounds like a scam IMO. I deal with international shipments on a daily basis. Anytime a shipment is held by customs, typically the recipient contacts customs to get things straightened out, unless customs needs more info from the shipper. If something isn't accepted by customs and is returned, the recipient still has to pay shipping fees and is not reimbursed for it.

Secondly... HID's in reflector housings = illegal, and incredibly dangerous. I really hope that whatever housing you're putting them in does not create a lot of glare. At the very least, if you won't listen to that, put them in a projector housing, preferably one designed for HID's and not halogen's........... It's funny when I see wall shots of people's HID/Reflector housing setups. They say "Ooh look, no glare, blah blah, no one has flashed me yet, blah blah" ... yet I always see glare, hot spots, and the complete lack of uniform light projected to the roadway. 'cause of posts like the "No one has flashed me" crap, I flash everyone who has an HID kit in a reflector housing that's blinding me, where as before I just ignored it and almost crashed.

/rant

Lol at almost crashing. If you almost crash from hid glare then you probably shouldn't be on the road.

[PAFirefighter11]

Originally Posted by Supraru

Lol at almost crashing. If you almost crash from hid glare then you probably shouldn't be on the road.

You're kidding, right? I'm not talking about HID glare. I'm talking about HID glare from a halogen reflector housing. HID's in their correct housings, whether reflector or projector, obviously don't cause enough glare to bother anyone, unless it's coming over the crest of a hill.

[Supraru]

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

You're kidding, right? I'm not talking about HID glare. I'm talking about HID glare from a halogen reflector housing. HID's in their correct housings, whether reflector or projector, obviously don't cause enough glare to bother anyone, unless it's coming over the crest of a hill.

Even in the wrong housing I don't see how anyone could possibly crash their car. If you do that's pretty bad. You don't get blinded by them then your car magically looses control and hits a tree then your car blows up like in the movies.

[PAFirefighter11]

Originally Posted by Supraru

Even in the wrong housing I don't see how anyone could possibly crash their car. If you do that's pretty bad. You don't get blinded by them then your car magically looses control and hits a tree then your car blows up like in the movies.

People do get blinded by them and they do crash. I've been to several accident scenes over my 10 years as a fire fighter where police were told that "blinding blue headlights" 'caused them to not see the roadway ahead. Whether that's the truth or not from the driver, it does happen. I'm blinded on a nightly basis from idiot ricers with their HID kits dropped into their POS plastic reflector housings.

Within the last two years, NHTSA has received numerous complaints about nighttime glare from three types of headlights mounted on the front of motor vehicles: high intensity discharge (HID) lights that appear blue, auxiliary lights such as fog lamps, and headlights mounted high on various light trucks (sport utility vehicles, pickups and vans).

[DPancoast]

this story makes no sense what so ever.... but that's pretty funny....

[Supraru]

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

People do get blinded by them and they do crash. I've been to several accident scenes over my 10 years as a fire fighter where police were told that "blinding blue headlights" 'caused them to not see the roadway ahead. Whether that's the truth or not from the driver, it does happen. I'm blinded on a nightly basis from idiot ricers with their HID kits dropped into their POS plastic reflector housings.

Never seen anyone loose control and crash from my ricer lights. Hell I get blinded from sun glare every day on the way to work. I slow down to a reasonable speed where if something happens I'm fine. It's called defensive driving. Maybe these people shouldn't be on the road to begin with.

[twastheglow]

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

People do get blinded by them and they do crash. I've been to several accident scenes over my 10 years as a fire fighter where police were told that "blinding blue headlights" 'caused them to not see the roadway ahead. Whether that's the truth or not from the driver, it does happen. I'm blinded on a nightly basis from idiot ricers with their HID kits dropped into their POS plastic reflector housings.

Uhhhhh...dude...UFO's man...UFO's.

But yeah, I agree. If improper HID glare is causing accidents due to "blindness", those people probably shouldn't be driving @ night. My car sits quite low to the ground and I've encountered plenty of ****ty kits AND improper installation and never thought I was going to lose control of my car as a result.