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Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Merrone

hey dude, i love your car ford blue 2010 mustang is my dream car right now haha. Color of my block.but i was on tst at the shop my dad saw your car and said if you ever wanna take a 2010 camaro rs/ss on the 1/4, let me know. haha. id love to seeee that.

high 12 second car verse a mid 13 second car? i'm guaranteed to lose before we pick a track.

Nick Merrone · 09-01-2009, 01:40 PM

haha, but it'll be cool to see. but yeah it has headers, exhaust, intake and a dynojet tune, well that will be done this week. right now its all just sitting in the shop and we usually just sitt in the office bull ****ting..haha.

Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sean3

Yes but they're cheaper ($752) at maximummotorsports

sweet. so the suggestion would be those all around and a bigger anti-sway bar up front and that is it for f stock?

i don't fully intend on sticking in that area, only because i do want to do a decent amount of work to the car over time... exhaust (duh its a mustang) which would put me in street prep, and eventually a supercharger... which dumps me into street mod, which i'm sure i'd be no match for. but that is down the line

Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Merrone

haha, but it'll be cool to see. but yeah it has headers, exhaust, intake and a dynojet tune, well that will be done this week. right now its all just sitting in the shop and where in the office bull ****ting..haha.

i'll run... but its a def loss for me

winner buys lunch haha

Nick Merrone · 09-01-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scapegoat

i'll run... but its a def loss for me

winner buys lunch haha

haha okay ill keep in touch if you ever go to atco let us know haha. i haven't even gotten a damn ride in it.

Ciotti · 09-01-2009, 01:50 PM

Spoke with Sam a bit ago and he knew the exact floaty/not completely firm feeling you're talking about and said it's definitely that the factory shocks/struts are underdampened. My Cobra had that same feeling for the first 3 years I owned it, then Sam set me up with the Koni Yellows (Sports) and even though it's been 2+ months since they went on I'm still amazed at the difference. http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=82761

He also mentioned that negative camber will help big time (which also made a huge difference on my car) but your car doesn't have any adjustability on the tops of the struts so you'll need to get the Ford Racing camber bolts if you want to stay in FS for autocross or if you don't care about that you can get adjustable strut top mounts which will bump you into E Street Prepared.

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Originally Posted by Scapegoat

sweet. so the suggestion would be those all around and a bigger anti-sway bar up front and that is it for f stock?

i don't fully intend on sticking in that area, only because i do want to do a decent amount of work to the car over time... exhaust (duh its a mustang) which would put me in street prep, and eventually a supercharger... which dumps me into street mod, which i'm sure i'd be no match for. but that is down the line

Exhaust won't bump you out of F Stock but the supercharger certainly will

Nick Merrone · 09-01-2009, 01:52 PM

wow thats pretty cool, adjustable shocks...i feel like a newb...

oneday · 09-01-2009, 02:11 PM

Sam is a god among Mustang autocrossers. If you ever have a chance to watch him hustle his car through the cones it is something you won't soon forget.

Big front bar, shocks, camber bolts, cat back exhaust, drop in filter, brake pads and the stickiest, widest tires you can fit on an OEM size wheel. That is all you can do for a stock class. The shocks, tires will make the biggest difference for the class, but the camber and sway shouldn't be discounted.

**Got Insulin?** · 09-01-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Merrone

wow thats pretty cool, adjustable shocks...i feel like a newb...

Probably been around longer than you've been alive, Nick.

Looking forward to see what you can pull off with the car, Ken.

Nick Merrone · 09-01-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by oneday

Sam is a god among Mustang autocrossers. If you ever have a chance to watch him hustle his car through the cones it is something you won't soon forget.

Big front bar, shocks, camber bolts, cat back exhaust, drop in filter, brake pads and the stickiest, widest tires you can fit on an OEM size wheel. That is all you can do for a stock class. The shocks, tires will make the biggest difference for the class, but the camber and sway shouldn't be discounted.

thanks for that tip...i kinda dont wanna drift like everyone else..so its not all about speed in auto cross?

Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ciotti

Spoke with Sam a bit ago and he knew the exact floaty/not completely firm feeling you're talking about and said it's definitely that the factory shocks/struts are underdampened. My Cobra had that same feeling for the first 3 years I owned it, then Sam set me up with the Koni Yellows (Sports) and even though it's been 2+ months since they went on I'm still amazed at the difference. http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=82761

He also mentioned that negative camber will help big time (which also made a huge difference on my car) but your car doesn't have any adjustability on the tops of the struts so you'll need to get the Ford Racing camber bolts if you want to stay in FS for autocross or if you don't care about that you can get adjustable strut top mounts which will bump you into E Street Prepared.

Exhaust won't bump you out of F Stock but the supercharger certainly will

sweet. i'll pick up a set of those koni's when i get a chance and a steeda front sway bar.

about the exhaust... i though that was axle back only doesn't drop you out of stock? i intend on doing headers back

Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Merrone

thanks for that tip...i kinda dont wanna drift like everyone else..so its not all about speed in auto cross?

speed is very important as it is a timed event. however, handling is just as, if not more important.

you won't get out of second gear on a course (most times) and you probably won't see higher than 50-60mph

Nick Merrone · 09-01-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Scapegoat

speed is very important as it is a timed event. however, handling is just as, if not more important.

you won't get out of second gear on a course (most times) and you probably won't see higher than 50-60mph

oh, i knew it was alot of handling, so like i should focus on acceleration? cause i wanna get up there faster?

Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 02:53 PM

i'll let the pros take over QnA time, but i'd say handling > acceleration

Ciotti · 09-01-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scapegoat

sweet. i'll pick up a set of those koni's when i get a chance and a steeda front sway bar.

about the exhaust... i though that was axle back only doesn't drop you out of stock? i intend on doing headers back

Technically yes the rules state that only cat back's are allowed but unless you're running at national events you'll be just fine running an aftermarket h or x pipe in FS unless there are noise restrictions like a lot of the Philly events have in place. For as long as I'm running the South Jersey region you're more than welcome to run in FS with any h or x pipe you want because those extra few horsepower aren't making you any faster and I'd much rather listen to your car with the exhaust properly uncorked

And it's all about handling, acceleration means very little until you're got at least a full season of events under your belt. There's an instructor in our region with an 80 horsepower Volvo wagon that will blow away any new guy in a Vette or Porsche or anything else with a ton of power.

%70 driver %20 tires %10 car

Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 03:06 PM

by headers back... i meant long tubes, shorty x/h pipe and cat back...

Ciotti · 09-01-2009, 03:35 PM

That's pushing it but I'll still let you slide unless you're pounding everyone else in FS, although by the time you do all that to the exhaust I have a feeling you'll have something else on the car (wider wheels, springs, subframe connectors, rear sway bar, aftermarket lower controll arms to get rid of the straight line wheel hop, etc...) that bumps you out of FS anyway

Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 03:41 PM

you're making it very difficult for me to save this 2 grand... i can get the koni's and sway bar for under a grand, and i can get the exhaust setup for right around a grand...

i'm looking at maybe getting smaller stock rims though... hoping they're lighter and something i can toss better tires on for the track.

i doubt i'll be pounding everyone in FS though... not for a while at least, i haven't autocrossed in years

Ciotti · 09-01-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Scapegoat

you're making it very difficult for me to save this 2 grand... i can get the koni's and sway bar for under a grand, and i can get the exhaust setup for right around a grand...

I'm good at helping others spend their money

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Originally Posted by Scapegoat

i'm looking at maybe getting smaller stock rims though... hoping they're lighter and something i can toss better tires on for the track.

That will kick you out of FS and into ESP with me

i doubt i'll be pounding everyone in FS though... not for a while at least, i haven't autocrossed in years

Your competition right now has less than a year of experience so you may be right there with them especially because you have the National class winning platform

Scapegoat · 09-01-2009, 03:57 PM

well, i'll be there on the 27th, probably in 100% stock form and we'll see how it goes.

09-01-2009, 01:40 PM	#22
Nick Merrone Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: philly Member #10807 My Ride: c18det hatch iTrader: (1)	haha, but it'll be cool to see. but yeah it has headers, exhaust, intake and a dynojet tune, well that will be done this week. right now its all just sitting in the shop and we usually just sitt in the office bull ***ting..haha. Last edited by Nick Merrone; 09-01-2009 at 01:47 PM.*

09-01-2009, 02:11 PM	#28
oneday Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Holland Member #5367 My Ride: E36 M3 Coupe iTrader: (0)	Sam is a god among Mustang autocrossers. If you ever have a chance to watch him hustle his car through the cones it is something you won't soon forget. Big front bar, shocks, camber bolts, cat back exhaust, drop in filter, brake pads and the stickiest, widest tires you can fit on an OEM size wheel. That is all you can do for a stock class. The shocks, tires will make the biggest difference for the class, but the camber and sway shouldn't be discounted. __________________ Saving for more track time.

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Nick Merrone Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: philly Member #10807 My Ride: c18det hatch iTrader: (1)	wow thats pretty cool, adjustable shocks...i feel like a newb...

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Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	by headers back... i meant long tubes, shorty x/h pipe and cat back...

09-01-2009, 03:41 PM	#38
Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	you're making it very difficult for me to save this 2 grand... i can get the koni's and sway bar for under a grand, and i can get the exhaust setup for right around a grand... i'm looking at maybe getting smaller stock rims though... hoping they're lighter and something i can toss better tires on for the track. i doubt i'll be pounding everyone in FS though... not for a while at least, i haven't autocrossed in years

09-01-2009, 03:57 PM	#40
Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	well, i'll be there on the 27th, probably in 100% stock form and we'll see how it goes.