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BoostedG · 08-05-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im2Slow

IMO, the stillen superchargers are very reliable for a consistent daily driver, and fairly easy to install. But you will be paying alot of money for minimal HP increase, ..
If your looking for power and want a SC go with vortech

The APS tt kit is prolly the best on the market but is also exspensive, and quite a process to install,

If you have the money and time go with aps twin turbo kit, you won't be dissapointed

The thing about Stillen your only going to get big number from a stage4 kit. And Stillen going give a warranty on a stage 2 kit. And you have you get a new hood, The s/c will not fit with your hood.

Vortech get better numbers. I know cuz I have one on mine. And Vortech give 3 years or 36,000 mile warranty on any kit. If you need to know anything more about it pm.

its all about how much money you have and how much power you want.

Schepis · 08-05-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98GSXdude

All I hear is problems with boosted Z33 Z's and G's. If you want a reliable boosted Z go with a Z32.

Miss yours Chris? lol

Ace · 08-08-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fballman1987

why twin turbo? why not just one properly sized turbo?

IMO and experience, you can NEVER duplicate the response and linear torque curve of two smaller turbos with a single. Surely, there is a bit more to the install and setup, but two internally gated 28's on a 350z are like heaven in a bottle, and provide nice top end too....where with a single you tend to find speicfic powerbands, and not so much all around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace

There is no choice, go with a Jim Wolf Turbo Kit. Instant power!

...yesssssssssssss

**Alex** · 08-10-2009, 08:56 PM

Turbo.. End of discussion

Candyman · 08-10-2009, 09:19 PM

I have an APS TT Tuner Kit (External wastegates, journal bearing turbos) on my Z and have had it on there for about 12,000 miles. During which time I have done about 6 drift events, driven from Philly to NYC at least 15 times, driven to work every day, done about 10 dyno pulls, and never had an issue other than fouling spark plugs, burning up a clutch (street disc), and some problems that came from mistakes I made during the install. The car was tuned safely by Vince @ R/T and makes about 400whp @ 7.5 psi (keep in mind this car is setup for drifting). The power is instant and the delivery is consistent. The car will spool up in 5th gear on the highway. In the low gears, it hits full boost at about 3800 rpm.

I did alot of research before I turboed my Z (and I do have another longblock getting built b/c I know the stock VQ will not last forever). Single turbo kits have a tendency to overboost and blow motors; they are also much more difficult to route, so you run into the intercooler pipes running over the turbo and getting heated issues, plus minimal downpipe clearance, plus a mess of exhaust pipes (they connect the two manifolds, route them back to the front of the motor, then run a downpipe back to the exhaust - it's like the WRX from hell). Or you have to run an auxiliary electric oil pump like the APS single.

If I had not gone w/ the APS kit, I would have gotten a Vortech Blower; the simplicity and capability of those kits is great; they don't make insane amounts of power, but they do make good power. They're pretty straightforward to install as well. If you get a good twin kit (JWT, APS, or Greddy w/ the right pieces), good injectors (I run DW 600s w/ a fuel return line system and walbro pump) and a good tune (I currently have a UTEC and Uprev flash, planning to go all Uprev and having Vince @ R/T tune it) you will not go wrong. Of course your stock NA motor that you have now boosted will not last forever, but there's no reason you can't rack up some miles on it w/ a TT setup reliably if you do it right the first time.

If you are seriously considering boosting your VQ, I strongly suggest talking to the guys at R/T, they have a ton of experience with these cars and do excellent work.

phatmax97 · 08-13-2009, 07:14 PM

go with a turbo. superchargers are nice i have one. turbos werent available when i got it. other wise it would have been turbo. its better when u can control your boost!!! just my opinion

vq35deST · 08-18-2009, 08:16 PM

Turbo + Osiris Uprev + RT Tuning = Successssssssstt..

captainhook · 08-18-2009, 11:14 PM

S/C it!

jkelz25 · 08-21-2009, 09:18 AM

thanks alot for the feedback guys. i think i am leaning towards twin turbo! what size would you guys recommend?

Blck350z · 08-28-2009, 11:52 PM

You can answer your own question.......It depends on your type of driving.... is this going to be: a DD, a track beast, a 1/4 mile car, or just to brag you have f/I???? after you answer that... a roots type blower ( Stillen ) is a waste of money.... Centrifugal ( ie Pro-Charger or Vortech ) is a great choice for a linear power band ( ie. feels stock w/ 1.5x the power

). Twin Turbo's add a lot of torque so make sure you take it to a good tuner!!!! Greddy is one of the time tested kits on the market. Recently they came out w/ the 20G kit for the DE's and HR's which will have plenty of room to expand if you build your motor. The JWT 530 is also a good kit and will spool up quickly but limit you if you build your motor. Although you can upgrade the turbo's to the "700 or 850" range, you will pay a hefty price.... I actually had the Power enterprise kit ( one of the smallest TT kits for the Z. I hit full boost at 2900 RPM and it pull the whole way to 6000 where the power started to dip a bit. ( do not get this kit if you plan to build its limited to about 500whp on a dynojet. ). Single turbo's which are either Turbonetics which is a waste of money b/c of the constant repairs for the welds breaking or the Powerlab single which has been proven to be a great versatile kit. using the GT35R it has the potential for 550-600whp and will perform nicely on stock blocks. If there is one thing every F/I kit has in common is DO NOT CHEAP OUT on the Engine management........ or the TUNER!!! go with someone qualified !!!!! Ask your tuner ( whom ever you decide ) which EM they prefer... they will be able to steer you in the correct direction. You can listen to everyone say which they prefer but the tuner is the one who will have to tune it ! Good luck and have fun!!! boosted VQ's are very fun.

Blck350z · 08-29-2009, 02:54 PM

^^^ to add to this if you do consider the APS TT kit... becareful you research. The new APS kits are unlike the ones they were producing about a year ago b/c they use cheaper journal bearing turbo's and not the dual BB ones used in the previous kit. They top out at about 500 whp.... so they are great again if you don't build. As far as longevity.... I do not know. I know the greddy's journal bearing turbo's are of a higher quality and they do last.

vq35deST · 08-29-2009, 06:56 PM

one con of the APS TT kit from what ive seen in others experience is you have to remove the engine and tranny for smoother install...

Blck350z · 08-30-2009, 12:22 PM

Any TT kit you should remove the engine!!!! it will save a bunch of time and you can correctly torque everthing down!! I installed my TT kit on jackstands in my garage and throughout the install I could've killed some body almost every night. But it was a good learning experience.... the worst part is the passenger side turbo..... it stradles the motor mount and is a PITA to get on. Anyways before I'd do anything go over to "My350z.com" and go under the Forced Induction part and snoop around a bit.. theres a ton of info out there

EverybodyWildOu · 09-23-2009, 07:27 PM

I might be selling my Vortech SC kit off my 350z along with the supporting mods.

I made a reliable 378hp on a dyno dynamics. 427 with DJ correction.

But either way you go, DO NOT get a stillen. You'll be disappointed you wasted your money for stock-like power.

jkelz25 · 09-23-2009, 10:22 PM

ko thanks alot and what is wrong with the stillen sc?

08-10-2009, 09:19 PM	#25
Candyman Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2124 iTrader: (1)	Twins I have an APS TT Tuner Kit (External wastegates, journal bearing turbos) on my Z and have had it on there for about 12,000 miles. During which time I have done about 6 drift events, driven from Philly to NYC at least 15 times, driven to work every day, done about 10 dyno pulls, and never had an issue other than fouling spark plugs, burning up a clutch (street disc), and some problems that came from mistakes I made during the install. The car was tuned safely by Vince @ R/T and makes about 400whp @ 7.5 psi (keep in mind this car is setup for drifting). The power is instant and the delivery is consistent. The car will spool up in 5th gear on the highway. In the low gears, it hits full boost at about 3800 rpm. I did alot of research before I turboed my Z (and I do have another longblock getting built b/c I know the stock VQ will not last forever). Single turbo kits have a tendency to overboost and blow motors; they are also much more difficult to route, so you run into the intercooler pipes running over the turbo and getting heated issues, plus minimal downpipe clearance, plus a mess of exhaust pipes (they connect the two manifolds, route them back to the front of the motor, then run a downpipe back to the exhaust - it's like the WRX from hell). Or you have to run an auxiliary electric oil pump like the APS single. If I had not gone w/ the APS kit, I would have gotten a Vortech Blower; the simplicity and capability of those kits is great; they don't make insane amounts of power, but they do make good power. They're pretty straightforward to install as well. If you get a good twin kit (JWT, APS, or Greddy w/ the right pieces), good injectors (I run DW 600s w/ a fuel return line system and walbro pump) and a good tune (I currently have a UTEC and Uprev flash, planning to go all Uprev and having Vince @ R/T tune it) you will not go wrong. Of course your stock NA motor that you have now boosted will not last forever, but there's no reason you can't rack up some miles on it w/ a TT setup reliably if you do it right the first time. If you are seriously considering boosting your VQ, I strongly suggest talking to the guys at R/T, they have a ton of experience with these cars and do excellent work.

08-18-2009, 08:16 PM	#27
vq35deST Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lumberton Member #14395 My Ride: Built & Boosted 350z & 99 boosted civic (daily driver) iTrader: (0)	Turbo + Osiris Uprev + RT Tuning = Successssssssstt.. __________________ 350z IPP BUILT BLOCK, Turbonetics ST, Osiri Uprev, HKS SSVQ BOV, Tial38mm, Greddy turbo timer, Eibach Suspension Kenwood DVD/NAV, JL W7 bump in my trunk 99 boosted civic coupe - daily driver R/T Tuning go there or be square To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

08-29-2009, 06:56 PM	#32
vq35deST Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lumberton Member #14395 My Ride: Built & Boosted 350z & 99 boosted civic (daily driver) iTrader: (0)	one con of the APS TT kit from what ive seen in others experience is you have to remove the engine and tranny for smoother install... __________________ 350z IPP BUILT BLOCK, Turbonetics ST, Osiri Uprev, HKS SSVQ BOV, Tial38mm, Greddy turbo timer, Eibach Suspension Kenwood DVD/NAV, JL W7 bump in my trunk 99 boosted civic coupe - daily driver R/T Tuning go there or be square To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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Blck350z Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hbg, PA Member #14509 My Ride: 08 CS Z iTrader: (0)	^^^ to add to this if you do consider the APS TT kit... becareful you research. The new APS kits are unlike the ones they were producing about a year ago b/c they use cheaper journal bearing turbo's and not the dual BB ones used in the previous kit. They top out at about 500 whp.... so they are great again if you don't build. As far as longevity.... I do not know. I know the greddy's journal bearing turbo's are of a higher quality and they do last.

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EverybodyWildOu Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Nov 2008 Member #10180 My Ride: 2004 G35TT and 2000 Nissan Pathfinder. iTrader: (0)	I might be selling my Vortech SC kit off my 350z along with the supporting mods. I made a reliable 378hp on a dyno dynamics. 427 with DJ correction. But either way you go, DO NOT get a stillen. You'll be disappointed you wasted your money for stock-like power.

09-23-2009, 10:22 PM	#35
jkelz25 Tri-State Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: Collegeville PA Member #13805 My Ride: is getting there iTrader: (1)	ko thanks alot and what is wrong with the stillen sc?