Photo Battles?

[Spocknasty]

I don't see why Photoshop has to be limited. Photoshop is a tool and a skill that you develop over time. It should be able to reflect in ones work just as much as their ability to use a camera and have a vision.

[redg2]

I agree with spock...the only thing is how would two people shoot the same car, it would preety much have to be at the same location and at the same time so shots would resemble each other...you know what i mean

[cszakolczai]

Originally Posted by CRXed

I don't see why Photoshop has to be limited. Photoshop is a tool and a skill that you develop over time. It should be able to reflect in ones work just as much as their ability to use a camera and have a vision.

I disagree, I've seen countless photographs where people photoshoped in new sky's and other countless elements. Photoshop is a tool that should enhance the image, not drastically change it as some people do. I think seeing the before and after Image is important. We are having a photography contest which reflects how well we use our camera, not how well we use an editing program. And as I said, photoshop is a tool, not a crutch to fall back on.

[Spocknasty]

Hey I never said no before shots.

[redg2]

Originally Posted by cszakolczai

I disagree, I've seen countless photographs where people photoshoped in new sky's and other countless elements. Photoshop is a tool that should enhance the image, not drastically change it as some people do. I think seeing the before and after Image is important. We are having a photography contest which reflects how well we use our camera, not how well we use an editing program. And as I said, photoshop is a tool, not a crutch to fall back on.

ahh i get what you mean now so yea i guess before photo is needed but final photo judged?

[Jeffros Spec V]

Somebody start making a bracket.

I saw Spock vs. Barryl

[cszakolczai]

Originally Posted by CRXed

Hey I never said no before shots.

Ok than before and after shots, and than people can choose based on what they like. I love your idea though. Just gotta figure out a way for people to do this. Its also kinda cool because it might create new friendships (not trying to sound all gay and mushy) but if 2 people get together and shoot the same topic, they may stay in touch... I don't know, but overall, good idea.

You could also have more than one event going on at a time, that way we aren't just waiting for 2 people. I like the bracket idea as well. Maybe put some money behind it to give some incentive to win. 10 bucks from every person held in a paypal account. Just another idea.

Chris

[EvlEgl]

I'm down, sounds Interesting!!!

[grimm]

We all know we all use photoshop, or some other photo editing software, that's how we convert the RAW files to jpg's or other similar file types. So i say it's either allowed or not allowed completely.
My reasoning is... When taking the RAW file into photoshop it automatically opens an editing window before you can even open the image. (unless you use a different software to batch convert them) even with just those parameters you can drastically change how the photo looks. So where do you draw the line?

If someone has the skills and the time to photoshop the image and make it so clean you can't tell, then they deserve the credit just as much as the person who has the technical skills to take a great picture that needs no editing. This doesn't have to be like the photo contest where it is about a perfect un-altered photo, this is about the photog and their abilities. one may suck at taking a technically correct photo but excel in post processing. Why shouldn't his skills be recognized?
Personally i think it should be used. It's a tool just as much as the camera is a tool.

and if they do a bad photoshop then they will obviously loose to the superior photo.

but simply put, this should be more about using your personal skills.

[Jeffros Spec V]

Spock (CRXED) Vs. Barry (Whatever his name is now)
Chris (Grimm ) vs. Bob (Black Type R)
I like rice vs. Chris PA
Evlegl vs. the dude with the camero.

[Spocknasty]

Well put, Grimm.

[i like rice]

Originally Posted by cszakolczai

Just gotta figure out a way for people to do this.

The problem with the same time, same place idea is that you have two people fighting over optimal lighting. There's only a 10 minute window within the golden hour. Add in the logistics of getting people together, choosing a location and time that works for everyone's schedule. I can tell you that my schedule from now through the end of July won't really allow me to do anything.

[redg2]

how about like photo-projects based on one subject? so not like a car but like the color Red

[cszakolczai]

Originally Posted by grimm

We all know we all use photoshop, or some other photo editing software, that's how we convert the RAW files to jpg's or other similar file types. So i say it's either allowed or not allowed completely.
My reasoning is... When taking the RAW file into photoshop it automatically opens an editing window before you can even open the image. (unless you use a different software to batch convert them) even with just those parameters you can drastically change how the photo looks. So where do you draw the line?

If someone has the skills and the time to photoshop the image and make it so clean you can't tell, then they deserve the credit just as much as the person who has the technical skills to take a great picture that needs no editing. This doesn't have to be like the photo contest where it is about a perfect un-altered photo, this is about the photog and their abilities. one may suck at taking a technically correct photo but excel in post processing. Why shouldn't his skills be recognized?
Personally i think it should be used. It's a tool just as much as the camera is a tool.

and if they do a bad photoshop then they will obviously loose to the superior photo.

but simply put, this should be more about using your personal skills.

If we wanted to recognize photoshop skills than we should hold a photoshop competition, not a photo competition. As I stated we all use photoshop, but certain people overuse it and it comes to a certain point that it is nothing like the original image. Granted, as you stated, we should recognize their skills, but if we want to recognize post processing skills than lets start a new competition or head to head battle for that. Thats not what this is about, this is about taking pictures.

[EvlEgl]

I personally wouldn't Use photoshop that much...But thats just me.

I do on the other hand don't think it should be two people at the same place/ I know not everyone is able to meet up based on where we all live...I agree on one subject to shoot and just leave it at that...Dont complicate things to much.

[Chris_PA]

To many f'ing rules

Best photo wins
Period



Oh yeah, I'm in

Just tell me what to shoot and when

[djb5118]

yea, i agree with a common subject, but no two person shoots.

Photoshopping comes with the territory i guess, but when i use it, its mostly just some exposure changes, white balance, and sharpness...nothing too major. I think if p-shop is allowed we should have a before and after requirement

[redg2]

yea just pick a subject and before and after...but then again that doesnt hold water rly cause you can photoshop the b4 so w/e i think beter photo wins no matter wat as long as it wasnt a crazy photoshop that is unbelievable you know

[djb5118]

Originally Posted by redg2

yea just pick a subject and before and after...but then again that doesnt hold water rly cause you can photoshop the b4 so w/e i think beter photo wins no matter wat as long as it wasnt a crazy photoshop that is unbelievable you know

i wouldnt change the original out of pure laziness

[cszakolczai]

Originally Posted by djb5118

i wouldnt change the original out of pure laziness

I don't think anyone here would really cheat to change there original photo... lets get this rollin.