Has any ever lost there license?

[Willdue]

Originally Posted by agoodall

if you read it you would see that you will receive in the mail a letter telling you when suspension begins and what not and since its govt mail it will be there 2-6weeks "If a driver's license is to be suspended, a written notice will be mailed to the driver listing the date when the suspension will begin."

Oh word, my bad, didt read enough lol.

Martang, thats because you were going 30+ over lol. 31 over is auto loss of license.

Im just hoping its been longer then I think, and that my mom doesnt remember getting letters in the mail bout getting points off.

[lownslow95]

I got into an accident with my last car, and apparently my drivers license was suspended at the time, and I didn't know about it. The cop asked for my drivers license, and he didn't say anything. The only way I had found out was, I had recived a letter in the mail saying that I had more then 6 pts. on my license, and that I had to take a test. I took that test, and about 1 year ago, I got my license back.

[Scapegoat]

heh, I'm actually going in for a hearing on the 11th due to this.

I was pulled over a couple months ago for my registration, the cop came back and told me my license had been suspended 6 months prior. He wrote me up for both, gave me my license back and told me to call someone to pick me up.

He also told me to fight the ticket and that we'd work something out in district court and to have my uncle call him, after I told him he was an officer as well.

My license suspension was due to some tomfoolery with the harrisburg penndot and me paying a ticket a day or so late and them suspending my license for that... was an out of inspection ticket. Paid that at a local tag place and got my license back that day...

but I don't want any points or anything for this so I'm going in to talk to the cop.

[Willdue]

Yea, id fight mine, but its northampton cops, and it was a speed trap. They were pulling cars over left and right. Good way to get there tax money back.

What really pissed me off, was they pulled a blonde "milf" over behind me in a White Benz SUV, and they let her go, i watched them look at her registration, came back, no ticket, didt make her sign anything, and they were laughing and ****, and then let her go.

[Erik]

blonde MILFs ftw

[Willdue]

not that day

[lownslow95]

Originally Posted by Willdue

What really pissed me off, was they pulled a blonde "milf" over behind me in a White Benz SUV, and they let her go, i watched them look at her registration, came back, no ticket, didt make her sign anything, and they were laughing and ****, and then let her go.

Thats just not right. You can possibly take that to court. They gave you a ticket, but not her?

[Willdue]

Yea, ive thought about it, but I know exactly what theyll say, "Prove it". Maybe not in those words, but you know what i mean.

[den9]

Originally Posted by Willdue

yea, i hear different things. Some say the cop will tell you that you have to go to a mandatory meeting.

Cause this is my 2nd time to 6 points, but im not exactly sure im at 6, cause i cant remember if i lost any.

i think u need to learn where the cops hide

i keep mental notes whenever i see a cop hiding, where i always see where cars are pulled over, and where ever white painted lines are on my routes. even on the turnpike and 95, still never found out where the hide on route 1 though except towards bensalem/philly

[lownslow95]

Yeah, thats true. I guess ask Sarge about what you can do, he may have some ideas.

[Willdue]

Originally Posted by den9

i think u need to learn where the cops hide

i keep mental notes whenever i see a cop hiding, where i always see where cars are pulled over, and where ever white painted lines are on my routes. even on the turnpike and 95, still never found out where the hide on route 1 though except towards bensalem/philly

White painted lines?

See usually i take 309 Home, and 309s wide open, so I can see where there sitting, and I know the 2 exits they sit on. BUT, friday i decided to go home 378...well, yea.

[martang]

Originally Posted by Willdue

White painted lines?

See usually i take 309 Home, and 309s wide open, so I can see where there sitting, and I know the 2 exits they sit on. BUT, friday i decided to go home 378...well, yea.

Two white lines on the road is what local cops use to pull you over thats the speed trap I think it's called VASCAR

[Willdue]

wtf? where are these lines located lol.

[lownslow95]

Originally Posted by martang

Two white lines on the road is what local cops use to pull you over thats the speed trap I think it's called VASCAR

This is VASCAR:
Blast from the Past: VASCAR Returns
Text and Photography by Craig Peterson
6/20/2005

Not to worry you, as if you haven’t already lost enough sleep fretting over the proliferation of radar, but there’s some retro-hardware that’s of continuing concern for motorists. Like an aging matinee idol rescued from obscurity, a speed-measuring device from the Sixties has been freshened up and continues to be distributed with quiet efficiency among traffic police nationwide. VASCAR Plus, first used in the mid Sixties and rarely mentioned in the press since its heyday in the Seventies, has made a quiet comeback over the past 15 years. Police like it because it makes no use of electromagnetic radio waves and radar detectors offer no defense against it. Your first warning of a VASCAR trap will likely be a trooper pulling up behind you with his red lights on.

VASCAR (Visual Average Speed Computer and Recorder) is a time/distance computer that times a vehicle between two reference points, measures the distance then computes the average speed. Although normally mounted in police cruisers, we've also seen it installed on motorcycles and it's frequently used in aircraft. In that application, the distance between reference marks painted on the road below is entered by the aircraft operator or observer. Then he simply flips the Time toggle switch on and off, using the internal quartz-crystal timer to clock cars between the two marks. With time versus distance recorded, the target's average speed is displayed. Then the pilot radios chase cars below (called catch cars in the business) to make the stop and hand out the speeding ticket.

Since few aircraft are used for speed enforcement (they're expensive to buy and operating costs are high), VASCAR Plus and its competitor, the Kustom Signals Tracker are most often found in traffic-enforcement cars. Each has an input from the VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor, the gadget that also drives the speedometer) for distance input and a combined computer/control module to handle math computations and memory functions. A manual distance input can be used if the officer is using reference marks painted on the road by the highway department, measured precisely and certified as accurate.

The VASCAR Plus control module has two switches, one for time input, the other for distance, along with a small three-digit speed display window and thumbwheels for manual distance inputs. The Tracker, a much newer design, has three windows and a mini-toggle switch for manual distance input.

Here’s how it works.
Assume you’re driving down a stretch of divided Interstate roadway. Coming at you is a state trooper with VASCAR. As he spots you he’ll look for a reference point where he can begin timing you. Many states paint broad white stripes across the road for this purpose but if the trooper is in open country he's unlikely to have these available. So he will improvise and make use of other landmarks: tar strips, road signs, and shadows across the road all serve nicely. At night he will use the flash of your headlights against reflective road signs, median barriers, reflective mileage markers or even discarded soft drink cans at roadside. As the front of your car passes his mark the trooper flips on his time switch, activating the internal timer. As you continue to approach him he will choose another reference point, wait until you hit the mark then turn off the timer. Now your elapsed time between the two reference points is stored in the computer.


The next step is simple.
He passes you, U-turns through the median and drives to the first reference point. Here he turns on the distance switch, travels to the second point and turns it off, recording the distance you traveled. The computer handles the number crunching and displays your average speed to 0.1 mph. The hardware’s accuracy tolerance is plus or minus 1 percent. Since at freeway speeds the minimum recommended clock is one tenth of a mile, the operator can miss his marks by a fair distance and still get a clock within a 2-3 percent accuracy window.

Since the operator has to take an active role in using the device, VASCAR has never been popular with lazy officers. But in the hands of an aggressive trooper, especially when used from an unmarked car, VASCAR can be deadly. In 1971, not long after VASCAR entered widespread service, I had the misfortune to cross paths with Trooper Thomas J. Ludford of the Minnesota Highway Patrol, probably the last guy in the world you’d want to meet if you were speeding. Driving an unmarked gold Plymouth sedan with whitewall tires, full wheel covers, disguised police radio antenna and civilian license plates, we met on I-35 near Owatonna. Although I was closely monitoring the oncoming traffic, I missed him. Ludford spotted me, though. He clocked me at 106 mph on VASCAR approaching, turned, clocked me again at 95 as I slowed for traffic and was filling up my mirrors less than a mile later as be braked from what must have been a 140 mph sprint to catch up, an achievement considerably abetted by his uncommonly healthy 440 cubic inch police interceptor engine.

Ludford was surprised when my first question was “What did you use for reference points?”, this before he mentioned his use of VASCAR. But with no peep from the radar detector, it didn’t take a rocket scientist to know what hardware he was using. Ludford used the two most popular types of clocks here: meeting and following.

Knowing how meeting clocks are accomplished, study up on the others:

Following
Using reference marks as described in the above meeting clock, the trooper drives behind the target and activates the time/distance switches. If he is in a marked cruiser he will usually hang well back and mingle with other traffic to avoid detection. If you suspect a VASCAR clock the proper response is to quickly slow far below the limit to lower your average speed. Once late at night on I-70 in Ohio I studied in the mirrors a car that seemed to be keeping pace, even at an indicated 90 mph, although he never approached closer than half a mile, making it tough to gauge his relative speed in the darkness.

Knowing that Ohio had VASCAR at the time, I waited until I crested a hill then moved into the right lane, braking heavily to 45 mph, continuing at that speed for about a third of a mile, then accelerating again to 55 as the lights popped over the hill and rapidly approached. It was a white highway patrol Plymouth. After falling into step for a while he gave up and passed me.

Front Clock
Watching you in his mirrors, the trooper will choose marks and clock you as you approach. By the time you notice you’re closing in on a trooper it’s all over.

Roadside clock
The trooper paces off a stretch of road, storing that distance in the computer. Then he parks in a shady, concealed spot and times cars between his marks. A favored location is around freeway on ramps. He’ll clock you as you come out from under the overpass to the point where the on ramp merges with the highway, a nice tenth-mile clock. Look for him parked at the top of the on ramp.

Thirty-eight states use VASCAR, about half of them from aircraft as well, according to Tom White, national sales manager for Traffic Safety Systems, marketers of the device. The Maryland State Police recently installed it on six motorcycles and have been so encouraged they are planning a dozen more. The biggest users: North Carolina, Florida, Maryland, Indiana and Wisconsin.

With traffic police increasingly frustrated by detector-equipped speeders, it’s a safe bet VASCAR will increasingly become a part of the speed enforcement scene, like it or not.

[martang]

Willdue just look for white lines across the road they are all over the place

[SpEcRv9]

Originally Posted by martang

Willdue just look for white lines across the road they are all over the place

+1 pretty easy to spot....usually thick white lines around 100ft maybe a little more apart.

[turbo4g63]

isn't it a lot easier to not speed....i've never lost my licence, i have no points or accidents on my licence, and my insurance has dropped signifigantly every 6 months b/c of it. Be smart and slow down...where's the fire?

[jcrsrt4]

i lost mine for two weeks for doing 104mph in a 55....that tix was 5 points and an automatic penndot hearing (my total points hit 9)...its penndot who takes away your liscense based on points or a specific event....like doing 104 in a 55....they gave me a test also which i passed and that removed 2 points....going over 6 points once gets u a notice from penndot....go over 6 points again and the **** starts to hit the fan.....you lose 3 points after 12 months of clean driving from the last time you received points....once u go over 6 points once, you have to get back to 0 for 1 year and then you can go over 6 again points again and have it considered a first offense....hope this helps

***edit*** also serving the license suspension removed another point from my record

[Willdue]

Originally Posted by turbo4g63

isn't it a lot easier to not speed....i've never lost my licence, i have no points or accidents on my licence, and my insurance has dropped signifigantly every 6 months b/c of it. Be smart and slow down...where's the fire?

Um. No. You have to admit some roads speed limits are ****ing ridiculous.

[lownslow95]

Originally Posted by Willdue

Um. No. You have to admit some roads speed limits are ****ing ridiculous.

If you live in the lower makefield township, there is this one spot right in front of a elementary school where the speed limit is 25mph. now the reason behind this is some asshat who thought the children were not safe. now, if you do live in this area, most of you know there is a side walk that is about 5 feet wide, followed by another 5 feet of shoulder. and the only time kids use the side walk, is when school is starting, usually around 7:45-8:00 in the morning, and from 3:30-4:15 in the afternoon, where the speed limit during those mentioned times is15m.p.h.