DONT DO DRUGS: A personal experience from tonight

[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by J.Ralli

i remember the first time i saw my friend do heroine well first time seeing it other than a movie.... in a parking lot, we were sitting there n it was in a small white wax paper envalope, he dumped it into a bottle cap n poured some water in it n mixed it around, heated it up a bit n took out the syringe, then he just put it in his arm like it was nothing... the effects were like instant...

now that you mention it, the guy also had a bottle cap with him..I didnt think it was at all related at first, but it makes more sense now.

[J.Ralli]

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

very true. I could have just said "**** it, he wants to be an idiot, let him die" but I just dont have the heart to do that, especially when all it takes to try and help is a phonecall to 911, and a few minutes of patience to wait for them to come and take my information down.

see heroine addiction isnt the same as other drugs, its one of the hardest addictions to fight right after alcohol, my friend went to meetings and they put him on methedone and basically had to ween him off. the users say that the feeling is so good that the first time you try heroine is never the last

[J.Ralli]

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

now that you mention it, the guy also had a bottle cap with him..I didnt think it was at all related at first, but it makes more sense now.

bottle cap, spoon, anything really, all u need is about a quarter of an ounce of room, also a lighter to heat it, some people use somewhat of a filter when the draw it into the syringe

[james_ls]

That's crazy.

This is the most common sense thread ever...but should stir up some good stories and stuff.

Alex, PLEASE re-edit that first thread so that it's READABLE!!

[J.Ralli]

Originally Posted by james_ls

That's crazy.

This is the most common sense thread ever...but should stir up some good stories and stuff.

Alex, PLEASE re-edit that first thread so that it's READABLE!!

none of the stories can be good... iv lost a few friends due to drug abuse...

[james_ls]

Originally Posted by J.Ralli

none of the stories can be good... iv lost a few friends due to drug abuse...

I didn't mean GOOD stories...as in "YAY GREAT ENDING!"

I meant it as in GOOD content...some SERIOUS topics/stories/events.

Sorry for the misconception.

[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by james_ls

That's crazy.

This is the most common sense thread ever...but should stir up some good stories and stuff.

Alex, PLEASE re-edit that first thread so that it's READABLE!!

Done...I dont think you are the first person to have that complaint either

[97TurboDSM]

one of my closest friends was/is addicted to heroin. it tore his life apart, landed him in jail, lost friends, etc. hes down in florida trying to clean himself up and i really hope its working for him but every time he comes home he relapses so i dunno whats gonna happen. heroin is not somethin to **** around with. like j. ralli said, the first time is never the last.

[CleanNeon98]

What made it even worse for us is that we found him laying there he was barely breathing. I called for the ambulance, and the whole time the kid was just in and out...he would completely stop breathing for 10-20 seconds and we kept thinking "thats it, hes gone" and then he would just convulse and make a loud snore noise that scared us ****less cause we were trying to snap at him and tap him awake.

[den9]

snapping fingers always seems to do this trick

heres something to think about, name one band that a member did heroin, and had ****ty music. i can name 100 that had good music

[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by den9

snapping fingers always seems to do this trick

heres something to think about, name one band that a member did heroin, and had ****ty music. i can name 100 that had good music

so you mean to say that by doing heroin, you become a better musician right... i really hope that if you ever tell anyone they dont try to take it the wrong way or they may walk away thinking "if i shoot up some of this, il be on rolling stones next month"...god help us

[JET02WRX]

Originally Posted by den9

snapping fingers always seems to do this trick

heres something to think about, name one band that a member did heroin, and had ****ty music. i can name 100 that had good music

Haha... I hear ya...but just to bust balls...I can name 3 that made ****ty music with members that used heroin......Motley Crue(Nikki Sixx), Superjoint Ritual(Phil Anselmo), Ministry(Al Jorgensen)...

[poolmike]

Back in high school my good friend Eric wouldn't touch a beer. Things changed quickly. Last time I saw him 8 years ago he was damn near begging for $50. A few days later he was found with EVERYTHING in his system. Once you get hooked, nobody can stop it.

I tend to get a little angry with anyone who tells me casual drug use is harmless. It isn't. I lost a really good friend because I didn't kick his a$$ when he started with a little 'harmless' weed. I'll never forgive myself for that.

[Renegade_]

Originally Posted by JET02WRX

Haha... I hear ya...but just to bust balls...I can name 3 that made ****ty music with members that used heroin......Motley Crue(Nikki Sixx), Superjoint Ritual(Phil Anselmo), Ministry(Al Jorgensen)...

Anthony Keidis. Except his music he made was genuinely good back in the day (see: BSSM, Freakey Styley, Etc)

[doug]

Two of my friends I grew up with playing baseball and hockey with passed away due to overdoses on heroin.

It really is a shame. Drug addiction is horrid. Many many many musicians do use drugs.. and I'm sure many have dabbled with heroin.. luckily some of them.. ahem SOME of them have survived.

[Action Park]

Originally Posted by poolmike

I tend to get a little angry with anyone who tells me casual drug use is harmless. It isn't. I lost a really good friend because I didn't kick his a$$ when he started with a little 'harmless' weed. I'll never forgive myself for that.

93
Hmmm, so would you be even angrier when I tell you that it CAN be beneficial? On the contrary, it angers me when people make blanket statements such as this with reference to restricting the will of another. Many lives have been destroyed by drug usage. Yet, this is not a fault of the drug itself, but of it's user and society in general.

Here is the list of drugs that I have consumed: Cannabis, alcohol, ketamine, psilocybin mushrooms, muscimol mushrooms, salvia divinorum, datura stramonium, various opiates and the opiod methadone, various benzos, mdma, pcp, dextromethorphan, cocaine, amphetamine, and nitrous oxide. This is not sizing of the phallic member, but I'm trying to establish a point. Not once have I ever stolen or caused harm to another to obtain drugs Never have I been addicted to a substance, even while consuming cannabis 2-5 times daily.

Addiction comes about through obsession. A drug should only be used to fill a deficiency in the character of an individual; otherwise an imbalance is created leading to all sorts of trouble. One must note that most of the addictive drugs facilitate the lower 4 circuits(of Leary), i.e., the ones accessable to all humans before special excersizes are practiced(meditation, psychedelic and dissociative drug use, magick). For example, cocaine appeals to the 4th, sexual-social circuit. Alcohol to the 2nd, anal-terretorial circuit. However, use of psychedelic and dissociative drugs can lead one into transcendence of these 4 primal circuits and into the 4 higher, before only experienced through special excersizes. This speaks volumes about why one chooses to do drugs, and which drugs are beneficial for one to do. Of course, i know most people are'nt familiar with the 8 circuits of consciousness. I have'nt the time to thouroughly explain, so I can only reccomend the most excellent book"prometheus rising" by Robert Anton Wilson, for complete understanding on the matter.

So then, what have we? DRUGS ARE BAD ONLY WHEN THE IMPROPER DRUG IS USED FOR THE TASK AND THE PROPER SAFEGAURDS ARE'NT ESTABLISHED. It is imperative for use to use scientific method when experimenting. RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RELATIVE!
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[J.Ralli]

Personally to be honest, I myself have made dumb decisions in life as well as I have tonight, I know what's the limits though as stupid as it may sound, the last stupid thing I did was get messed up and stayed at work for 27 hours strait, yes I said 27 strait with one 15 min break, as much as I can say, my friends have offered me the needle and to this day I thank god for not making the wrong decision. People themselves do and should know what to do and what not to do

[J.Ralli]

Originally Posted by Action Park

93
Hmmm, so would you be even angrier when I tell you that it CAN be beneficial? On the contrary, it angers me when people make blanket statements such as this with reference to restricting the will of another. Many lives have been destroyed by drug usage. Yet, this is not a fault of the drug itself, but of it's user and society in general.

Here is the list of drugs that I have consumed: Cannabis, alcohol, ketamine, psilocybin mushrooms, muscimol mushrooms, salvia divinorum, datura stramonium, various opiates and the opiod methadone, various benzos, mdma, pcp, dextromethorphan, cocaine, amphetamine, and nitrous oxide. This is not sizing of the phallic member, but I'm trying to establish a point. Not once have I ever stolen or caused harm to another to obtain drugs Never have I been addicted to a substance, even while consuming cannabis 2-5 times daily.

Addiction comes about through obsession. A drug should only be used to fill a deficiency in the character of an individual; otherwise an imbalance is created leading to all sorts of trouble. One must note that most of the addictive drugs facilitate the lower 4 circuits(of Leary), i.e., the ones accessable to all humans before special excersizes are practiced(meditation, psychedelic and dissociative drug use, magick). For example, cocaine appeals to the 4th, sexual-social circuit. Alcohol to the 2nd, anal-terretorial circuit. However, use of psychedelic and dissociative drugs can lead one into transcendence of these 4 primal circuits and into the 4 higher, before only experienced through special excersizes. This speaks volumes about why one chooses to do drugs, and which drugs are beneficial for one to do. Of course, i know most people are'nt familiar with the 8 circuits of consciousness. I have'nt the time to thouroughly explain, so I can only reccomend the most excellent book"prometheus rising" by Robert Anton Wilson, for complete understanding on the matter.

So then, what have we? DRUGS ARE BAD ONLY WHEN THE IMPROPER DRUG IS USED FOR THE TASK AND THE PROPER SAFEGAURDS ARE'NT ESTABLISHED. It is imperative for use to use scientific method when experimenting. RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RELATIVE!
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As odd as it sounds I know every one of those substances and actually laughed where u said you aren't saying all that to sound like u have a big penis.... Fantastic

[foss]

Originally Posted by Action Park

93
Hmmm, so would you be even angrier when I tell you that it CAN be beneficial? On the contrary, it angers me when people make blanket statements such as this with reference to restricting the will of another. Many lives have been destroyed by drug usage. Yet, this is not a fault of the drug itself, but of it's user and society in general.

Here is the list of drugs that I have consumed: Cannabis, alcohol, ketamine, psilocybin mushrooms, muscimol mushrooms, salvia divinorum, datura stramonium, various opiates and the opiod methadone, various benzos, mdma, pcp, dextromethorphan, cocaine, amphetamine, and nitrous oxide. This is not sizing of the phallic member, but I'm trying to establish a point. Not once have I ever stolen or caused harm to another to obtain drugs Never have I been addicted to a substance, even while consuming cannabis 2-5 times daily.

Addiction comes about through obsession. A drug should only be used to fill a deficiency in the character of an individual; otherwise an imbalance is created leading to all sorts of trouble. One must note that most of the addictive drugs facilitate the lower 4 circuits(of Leary), i.e., the ones accessable to all humans before special excersizes are practiced(meditation, psychedelic and dissociative drug use, magick). For example, cocaine appeals to the 4th, sexual-social circuit. Alcohol to the 2nd, anal-terretorial circuit. However, use of psychedelic and dissociative drugs can lead one into transcendence of these 4 primal circuits and into the 4 higher, before only experienced through special excersizes. This speaks volumes about why one chooses to do drugs, and which drugs are beneficial for one to do. Of course, i know most people are'nt familiar with the 8 circuits of consciousness. I have'nt the time to thouroughly explain, so I can only reccomend the most excellent book"prometheus rising" by Robert Anton Wilson, for complete understanding on the matter.

So then, what have we? DRUGS ARE BAD ONLY WHEN THE IMPROPER DRUG IS USED FOR THE TASK AND THE PROPER SAFEGAURDS ARE'NT ESTABLISHED. It is imperative for use to use scientific method when experimenting. RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RELATIVE!
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[ikozhukhin]

Originally Posted by Action Park

93
Hmmm, so would you be even angrier when I tell you that it CAN be beneficial? On the contrary, it angers me when people make blanket statements such as this with reference to restricting the will of another. Many lives have been destroyed by drug usage. Yet, this is not a fault of the drug itself, but of it's user and society in general.

Here is the list of drugs that I have consumed: Cannabis, alcohol, ketamine, psilocybin mushrooms, muscimol mushrooms, salvia divinorum, datura stramonium, various opiates and the opiod methadone, various benzos, mdma, pcp, dextromethorphan, cocaine, amphetamine, and nitrous oxide. This is not sizing of the phallic member, but I'm trying to establish a point. Not once have I ever stolen or caused harm to another to obtain drugs Never have I been addicted to a substance, even while consuming cannabis 2-5 times daily.

Addiction comes about through obsession. A drug should only be used to fill a deficiency in the character of an individual; otherwise an imbalance is created leading to all sorts of trouble. One must note that most of the addictive drugs facilitate the lower 4 circuits(of Leary), i.e., the ones accessable to all humans before special excersizes are practiced(meditation, psychedelic and dissociative drug use, magick). For example, cocaine appeals to the 4th, sexual-social circuit. Alcohol to the 2nd, anal-terretorial circuit. However, use of psychedelic and dissociative drugs can lead one into transcendence of these 4 primal circuits and into the 4 higher, before only experienced through special excersizes. This speaks volumes about why one chooses to do drugs, and which drugs are beneficial for one to do. Of course, i know most people are'nt familiar with the 8 circuits of consciousness. I have'nt the time to thouroughly explain, so I can only reccomend the most excellent book"prometheus rising" by Robert Anton Wilson, for complete understanding on the matter.

So then, what have we? DRUGS ARE BAD ONLY WHEN THE IMPROPER DRUG IS USED FOR THE TASK AND THE PROPER SAFEGAURDS ARE'NT ESTABLISHED. It is imperative for use to use scientific method when experimenting. RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RELATIVE!
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Now a part of me already agrees with what you have said and with that wiki article from your sig (because we all know wiki is such a trustful source ) and has got me interested in finding out more on the theories.

But then my sane side kicks in and realizes your on drugs and are probably under the influence of something while writing that along with the people finding the correlation of the greek alphabet and its "true" relation to the finer things in life.

While the "8 circuits of consciousness" in theory do exist and yes it might be possible to balance the unnatural cylce's of them, not everyone has the self will stop themselve after just balenceing the circuit out nor do they think about this circuit at all.

In the end the majority of the people taking drugs do it for that amazing feeling and not to better themselve's. In fact what usually happens is they steal from the people around them and end relationships. And when they die from their failed attempt at balancing their circuits, they end up hurting their family members and friends who have to explain to everyone around them the situation.

So until everyone can truely believe and safely practice this theory that u seem to live by....

DRUGS ARE BAD.