so0o0o!!! yeah i finally blew my clutch

[Turbo s60R]

Originally Posted by zerioustt

glad i do all my own work..i could get a built motor, machining and all for that price.

I fear teh clutch

[ThePrimerSuspect]

Originally Posted by Turbo s60R

considering stillman volvo were the only ones who didnt seem a lil wiery about doing the clutch there gonna get the job ill just mention to them tht the job take 7.7 hrs, tht very ****y but informative post has given me ammo to bring to the barganing table

be prepared to be shot down. this was one of my biggest problems with service writers when i was at lincoln-mercury......that book is STRICTLY A GUIDE. the times are estimates and do not account for problems that may be run into in the process. ill give you an example; cash trans in a 4 cyl accord: i get 8 hours for them cash and i think 5.5 warranty. i can do them in 2-3 hours depending on the circumstances. but that is only because ive done so many. if someone brought me a car that ive never worked on before, and the clutch said 7 hours in the book, you better believe your getting hit for AT LEAST 9 hours. and thats on a good day. if it was a job that i really didnt want to do, i would say more like 11-12. if someone came to me and said "your getting 7 hours for a clutch in a s60" id say give it to someone else. OR if i didnt have a choice, the car would sit for a week before i even looked at it.

[RayArroyo]

anyone have one of these books? it would hel me ou alot to figure out pricing

[180sxDrifter]

they are prob charging 8 hours for the tech and markin the rest up for thier commision

[Nors]

Originally Posted by ray@turbotek

anyone have one of these books? it would hel me ou alot to figure out pricing

Ray you could buy the program (shop key or alldata) but they are pretty expensive. They have all labor prices, but they also have most torque specs and procedures for most (pretty much all) cars.

Originally Posted by 180sxDrifter

they are prob charging 8 hours for the tech and markin the rest up for thier commision

Commission at a dealership for a tech? Thats the first I heard of that, care to explain?

[Vypurr]

My hours come from Mitchel Ondemand 5 online database.

[Turbo s60R]

Originally Posted by ThePrimerSuspect

be prepared to be shot down. this was one of my biggest problems with service writers when i was at lincoln-mercury......that book is STRICTLY A GUIDE. the times are estimates and do not account for problems that may be run into in the process. ill give you an example; cash trans in a 4 cyl accord: i get 8 hours for them cash and i think 5.5 warranty. i can do them in 2-3 hours depending on the circumstances. but that is only because ive done so many. if someone brought me a car that ive never worked on before, and the clutch said 7 hours in the book, you better believe your getting hit for AT LEAST 9 hours. and thats on a good day. if it was a job that i really didnt want to do, i would say more like 11-12. if someone came to me and said "your getting 7 hours for a clutch in a s60" id say give it to someone else. OR if i didnt have a choice, the car would sit for a week before i even looked at it.

i work at springfield ford and i understand unforseen problems but considering im almost postive its a tranny out job and the s60r sub-frame and craddle has to be removed just to reach access to the tranny im not even gonna bother learning how too,

the reason for this post was the prices were ball park numbers and i thought it was funy thts why i posted it, but once again u get the dreaded tristate trouble makers to come in and throw there mechanical knowledge around when all i was doing what putting the quote i got......

[zerioustt]

Originally Posted by Turbo s60R

i work at springfield ford and i understand unforseen problems but considering im almost postive its a tranny out job and the s60r sub-frame and craddle has to be removed just to reach access to the tranny im not even gonna bother learning how too,

the reason for this post was the prices were ball park numbers and i thought it was funy thts why i posted it, but once again u get the dreaded tristate trouble makers to come in and throw there mechanical knowledge around when all i was doing what putting the quote i got......

Holy crap you posted something and got an opinion? Damn all you people and thinking for yourselves...shame on all of you!

[zerioustt]

Originally Posted by ThePrimerSuspect

be prepared to be shot down. this was one of my biggest problems with service writers when i was at lincoln-mercury......that book is STRICTLY A GUIDE. the times are estimates and do not account for problems that may be run into in the process. ill give you an example; cash trans in a 4 cyl accord: i get 8 hours for them cash and i think 5.5 warranty. i can do them in 2-3 hours depending on the circumstances. but that is only because ive done so many. if someone brought me a car that ive never worked on before, and the clutch said 7 hours in the book, you better believe your getting hit for AT LEAST 9 hours. and thats on a good day. if it was a job that i really didnt want to do, i would say more like 11-12. if someone came to me and said "your getting 7 hours for a clutch in a s60" id say give it to someone else. OR if i didnt have a choice, the car would sit for a week before i even looked at it.

Nice to know how mechanics and their work ethics are these days. I also find it amusing how long it takes some of these guys to do stuff. I swapped motor/tranny between 2 300zx's in 8 hours in a driveway.

[markley02]

Originally Posted by Turbo s60R

Clutch disc $210
Pressure plate $285
New flywheel $315
10.7 hrs of labor $1,020

7 months of hard drving so0o worth it


Now its time to go whore my body out to pay for this bitch

Why a new flywheel? Is it a dual mass that you cant resurface? Grow some balls and just do it yourself. It cannot be worse than my clutch and I did my install in the street on jack stands. Just get a friend or two and do it up. I have been bent over by so many dealers I will never go to one again. I have yet to go to a dealer and not get something stolen, screwed up, neglected, etc.

[Turbo s60R]

agreed^^^ when they did my trans the never clamp'd the intercooler back on and it blew off 2 miles and i was dead in the water till my dad ran me up a temp clamp and i got it back to the dealership

[Turbo s60R]

the next thing is tht im just gonna start a thread about who wants to either do and or help do the clutch, at the moment im tooless

[Nors]

I got most of the tools you need if not all. But they arn't sweedish so we may have a problem.

[Turbo s60R]

damn eric

is this a project u really want to attack.... cause im clueless when it comes to clutches, but if u think we could do it im game

[Nors]

If I can find a service manual online I will def do it. Me you and steve could bang it out for sure. You graduated Lincoln tech, come on man!! Save you 1000 bucks then you can buy like an evolve intake.. haha

[180sxDrifter]

Originally Posted by Nors

Ray you could buy the program (shop key or alldata) but they are pretty expensive. They have all labor prices, but they also have most torque specs and procedures for most (pretty much all) cars.





Commission at a dealership for a tech? Thats the first I heard of that, care to explain?

na, if book time is 8 hours the tech is prob going to get paid his full 8 hours, but the service writer will get comision on the extra 2.7 hours he upsold

[ThePrimerSuspect]

Originally Posted by Turbo s60R

i work at springfield ford and i understand unforseen problems but considering im almost postive its a tranny out job and the s60r sub-frame and craddle has to be removed just to reach access to the tranny im not even gonna bother learning how too,

the reason for this post was the prices were ball park numbers and i thought it was funy thts why i posted it, but once again u get the dreaded tristate trouble makers to come in and throw there mechanical knowledge around when all i was doing what putting the quote i got......

not trying to be a troublemaker, just letting you know why.

[Turbo s60R]

Originally Posted by ThePrimerSuspect

not trying to be a troublemaker, just letting you know why.

nah man i wasnt talking about you

[Cardriverx]

wow, I did my clutch and light flywheel in about 4 hrs.. with a lift tho. Id do your volvo if my air compressor worked =)

[Turbo s60R]

i was told tht the reason the clutch takes so long in my car was because its a tranny out job........ if tht it the case there is alot of **** u have to remove before removing the trans