Suicide.

[MuddyREX]

For me, suicide would never be an option. I've been through some rough ****, and the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side of it. Always.

I could only imagine what suicide would do to my wife and 2 sons.

[TurboTagTeam]

A friend of mine's mom tried to commit suicide 2 weeks ago. I'v known him since I was 4 years old. It really sucks because he has a 7 year old little sister and she found her mom near dead. She OD'ed on something. She's doing better but they won't let her out of the facility cause they think she will do it again. That's the kind of thing that really hits you.

I don't know how people get so depressed. I can get depressed, but never to the point of hurting myself. I try to think that no matter how bad it gets, it can allways get worse.

[EvlEgl]

Originally Posted by LSHatch

If I got a message from someone like that, they would get the wrath of hell from me.

I hate suicide. I've never felt bad for anyone who killed themselves. Only for their families and friends.

Couldnt have said it better myself

I've been thru hell more times than I can count yet somehow I always get through it all and bounce back.

Suicide is for those that give up and have no heart. I never once thought about it, and I never will

[xEJ20x]

I've thought about suicide on more than a few occasions.
Many times about the after-effects of my said demise. But then what also goes on in my mind isn't something that I will openly discuss....ever.

But apparently because I am still here, my thoughts of suicide are just merely kept as thoughts. But I do have my reasons. Once again, which I will not openly discuss.

[2000MRDC2]

Ive never really seriously thought about it Ive thought that like maybe itd be better but Id never actually consider it. a lot of its happening at my school 5 ppl in the last 2 years and its a selfish way to do it. My dad once tried to do it and most likely would have been sucessful if it wasnt for my mom and my brother, and at that point I pretty much lost all respect for him. I just think its stupid for the people who care about them. I dont have any respect and Im not sorry for anyone that does it the only people i feel bad for are their friends and families who have to live through it.

[james_ls]

I've had it dealt with several times and I can wholeheartdly agree with the general consensus of the group. Its ****ing selfish and completely uncalled for.

Each person has their own perception and I personally feel very negativly on the issue. I can understand if you have mental disorders and don't understand the reprocussions of your actions (like previously mentioned) but in the general sense...it's goddamned malarky. Yes. Malarky.

I really don't know what to say to generalize it...I mean it's case specific, but to a tee...theres always help and there's always second chances....and no matter what...there's always SOMEONE who cares. Even if it's just yourself.

[koho2731]

Most people that do try to commit suicide and don't succeed it was most likely a cry for help. Also when it get to the point were you want to go through with it you are at such a low point and you can't see any way out. As I've said I'm have passive thoughts, but it is against my faith to commit suicide. At times it is hard to see the good in anything. It's frustrating for me , because I normally thrive on pressure now I just have anxiety attacks under any pressure. I know most of you don't know me, but I'm not normally like this. I've also been helping a friend at work that is going through a similar situation as me and we've been helping each other out. I will go into more detail in a pm if anyone need or wants to help.

[eviltalon]

First of all i must say that this is definitly the most serious topic ever in my experience with TST. I wasn't going to say anything pertaining to this topic but now i feel as though i have to. I personally have never thought about suicide. And can not think of anyone close to me that has commited suicide. Everyone has there weaknesses. While some of u may be very strong minded, others are not. Some people can take more stress and agrivation than others. When u go through problems in life, they seem like the worst problems ever because they are happening to u. Everyone reacts differently depending on what is happening to them. People experience different feelings and different emotions when things happen, and everyone dosen't react the same to there feelings and emotions. For some, suicide is a way out, a way to end the pain. If someone commit's suicide then they are obviously not in your right mind. They are sick and need some sort of professional help. I'm not Dr. Phil nor am I jutifying suicide, just voicing my opinon. I have suffered from chronic depression off and on through middle school and high school. Once again i never tried to kill myself but i just know what it feels like to want all the pain and the problems to end. Yes, suicide may be selfish and the coward way out, but if someone is sick and needs seroius mental treatment can they be liable for that. Alot of people use temporary mental illness as a scape goat for things like murders etc. when they are not really insane or the least bit sick. But when your going crazy can your next action be predicted? U can only answer that question if u have been to the edge and back. If u have been pushed damn near to the point of no return. I believe some people will never reach that piont in there life because of there mental stability. But some people are not mentally built like others. Thanks for reading.

[WhiteXFire]

I had an older friend (mid 30's) who hung himself about 5 years ago, I know of other people indirectly who killed themselves (a secretary at my father's office just lost her brother a week and a half ago), and there were a few suicides at Johns Hopkins while I was there (though no one I knew).

I'm curious to know what people think about how your belief system corresponds to your thoughts on suicide. Do you think a religious person is more or less likely to contemplate/commit suicide? What about someone already contemplating suicide, are they more likely to actually follow through with it because they feel that there is no purpose to life and that there is nothing bigger out there? In other words, do you think there is any correlation between them?

[321Gone_]

Serious. I agree with the majority saying its the coward way out of life. Do I feel bad for the people? More for there family and friends. Its disgraceful for sure, but I do still miss the people I lost to suicide.. Not many but a couple. This one sticks in my mind the most..

I played Ice hockey with this kid. He was on my travel team for the Jaguars when I was a highschool freshmen, I believe I was just going into my freshmen year so it may have been an 8th grade season. (I am now 20) Anyways, the week before school started hes been having it rough with his father. His dad always rags on his case about everything. He failed a couple classes last year and almost stayed back. He started to do get into heavy usage of LSD. His dad found out and reemed him out so bad and took everything away from him one night, 2 weeks before school started.

That same day but earlier in the day, his girlfriend of a year broke up with him and he was deeply in love with her. That night he went into his garage and hung himself. He was found in the morning by his own father.

Thinking about this **** makes me upset, cause he was such a good hockey player and was my friend. I have lost a couple kids frmo my hockey teams but not to suicide other then him.

Edit: I never have contimplated suicide. Sometimes I say if i die, i die.. Nothing I can do. I would NEVER take my own life. There is times I wouldn't care if I woke up, but life goes hard. Not hard enough to take your own ****ing life though. Kinda pisses me off as well.

[Broken5hift]

life is a bitch, suicide is letting the bitch win

[igo4bmx]

Of course i've thought of it, but you gotta realize things ALWAYS get better.

No matter how bad things get, something will also change.

[2point4DSM]

Back in 6th grade I had a friend hang himself.

My opinion about suicide is that it sucks some people feel it is the only way out because I disagree. There a million ways out of situation that are better. Problem is depression and or alcohol/drugs and youth don't let people see a solution.

Do I hate people that commit suicide. No. The mind is a complicated thing. To think it is easy to control is being ignorant, lol.

For those that are thinking about suicide; think happy thoughts!

[Scapegoat]

I've had one person in my family do the deed. But he had brain cancer and it was getting worse and worse so I can understand the reason, though there are better ways than using a gun he wasn't all there anymore.

Other than something terminal like that, suicide is really the cowards way out. I have no respect for someone that attempts, or succeeds in ending their own life due to external problems in their life. (internal is another story, specifically if it is not something that can be battled, mental disorders CAN be battled)

[BlackBulletTSi]

Yea rough topic indeed. I really think that its a tough thing I mean nobodies doing it for fun. Its because of them having so much going on in their life they dont wanna deal with it. I actually am working on a song about suicides yea its a rap but everyone seems to like it a lot. Just the message behind it I guess but I wrote that song cause I've known of people who've done it also I'll admit it it crossed my mind a few times but I would realize no its stupid I think I started working on the song after the last time something bad happened and I felt like I was done with everything. But I realized that things will ALWAYS get better. If anyone wants to hear a really rough recording of the song I'll be more then happy to post it.

I also feel that the phrase "I'm gonna kill myself" is becoming to common. So common that if someone says its sometimes hard to tell if thats a "Hey I need someone to talk to" or a "Heh I'm just kidding I wouldn't do that". You guys could have a completely different view on that but I mean I've seen it where that is the case sometimes. Yea maybe body language and how they say it is a good indication but not all the times.

[2point4DSM]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

mental disorders CAN be battled

See, this is the part I disagree with. Mental disorders can be tough to battle. And sometimes it can not be battled. My father is retired now but he was a psychiatrist. I grew up hanging out with a lot of his colleagues and friends and had a strong interest in psychology all through out high school and college as well.

Trying to battle mental disorders is like shooting at your enemy in the dark. If you've never dealt with it personally there is no way to understand it completely.

[Broken5hift]

i think that 311 song "beyond the grey skies" sums suicide up pretty well

[MuddyREX]

There's a Staind song about it as well....

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by 2point4DSM

See, this is the part I disagree with. Mental disorders can be tough to battle. And sometimes it can not be battled. My father is retired now but he was a psychiatrist. I grew up hanging out with a lot of his colleagues and friends and had a strong interest in psychology all through out high school and college as well.

Trying to battle mental disorders is like shooting at your enemy in the dark. If you've never dealt with it personally there is no way to understand it completely.

the battle is not always won. But if there is fight left in the person they will continue to battle until they've allowed the disorder to beat them. Some battles are tougher than others, some almost impossible to win.

I went through clinically diagnosed severe depression for a couple years w/o medication and very few psych visits. I got to a point where I decided "depression" wasn't worth my time, money, or the damage it could deal. So I told it to f-off and I got on with life.

Do I still get down? sure Do I let it keep me down? no

[BlackBulletTSi]

Originally Posted by MuddyREX

There's a Staind song about it as well....

Yea awesome song I can't think of the name of it right now but I love Staind. My parents always knew when I was upset cause everytime someone died or anything I would play Staind loud and scream the lyrics. Just something about there music when I'm upset that I would play them and it would just make me feel a lot better. Now when I feel you know alone or anything another good band is my sisters friends band Adelitas Way