More Failalier Failure?

[Showoff03LS]

id that this to the J-body web site , cuz i know those guys there know alot more about the Ecotec then that shop does , unless u want me to ask for ya since im a member. like sam said its kinda fishy

[ASIAN JUL]

He said it had something to do with me not being religious enough with oil changes?

Hey if you wanna talk to the dude and ask him yourselves go right ahead because I have no friggen idea.


What they did:
Changed brake pads/rotors
Changed oil
Changed sparkplugs
Checked for VAC leaks
Checked motor mounts
Checked the CEL - came up with P0300 and 1441
Ran a compression test
Thought it was a fuel injector problem
Cleaned the fuel injector
Decided it wasn't enough, ordered a new one
Installed it, didn't fix the problem
Took the valve cover off
Etc., etc..........which led them to their conclusion of timing chain skipping a tooth or something

[AWD GS]

if you need help working on the cavalier let me know seriously. i know a few people including myself around the delco area that can do just about any type of work on those cars. i got a buddy who lives in ridley that can more than likely replace the chain for you. is it the 2.2 eco motor? i use to have a cavalier and spent a good 5 years working on them.

[russiankid]

Heres a food for thought. Cleanneon had an issue with misfire on cylinder 4. He gapped his spark plug from .35 to .30 and it stopped misfiring. Maybe you should get the car back and have the spark plugs checked and regapped. Second, do Cavi's have two coil packs or how is there ignition system setup?

[russiankid]

Originally Posted by MyCarIsFTL

He said it had something to do with me not being religious enough with oil changes?

Hey if you wanna talk to the dude and ask him yourselves go right ahead because I have no friggen idea.


What they did:
Changed brake pads/rotors
Changed oil
Changed sparkplugs
Checked for VAC leaks
Checked motor mounts
Checked the CEL - came up with P0300 and 1441
Ran a compression test
Thought it was a fuel injector problem
Cleaned the fuel injector
Decided it wasn't enough, ordered a new one
Installed it, didn't fix the problem
Took the valve cover off
Etc., etc..........which led them to their conclusion of timing chain skipping a tooth or something

Wow talk about bull****. It skipping a tooth would cause other cylinders to have issues.

[ASIAN JUL]

Originally Posted by AWD GS

if you need help working on the cavalier let me know seriously. i know a few people including myself around the delco area that can do just about any type of work on those cars. i got a buddy who lives in ridley that can more than likely replace the chain for you. is it the 2.2 eco motor? i use to have a cavalier and spent a good 5 years working on them.

Yeah it's 2.2 Eco

Originally Posted by russiankid

Heres a food for thought. Cleanneon had an issue with misfire on cylinder 4. He gapped his spark plug from .35 to .30 and it stopped misfiring. Maybe you should get the car back and have the spark plugs checked and regapped. Second, do Cavi's have two coil packs or how is there ignition system setup?

They changed the spark plugs and said they tested the ignition and found nothing

[AWD GS]

i looked up the codes and they say the following

P0300 Engine Misfire Detected
P1441 Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Flow During Non-Purge

sorry i jumped in this thread a little late so i dont know if thats been discussed yet.

[Showoff03LS]

Originally Posted by AWD GS

if you need help working on the cavalier let me know seriously. i know a few people including myself around the delco area that can do just about any type of work on those cars. i got a buddy who lives in ridley that can more than likely replace the chain for you. is it the 2.2 eco motor? i use to have a cavalier and spent a good 5 years working on them.

yeah its the 2.2 Eco

[russiankid]

Originally Posted by MyCarIsFTL

Yeah it's 2.2 Eco



They changed the spark plugs and said they tested the ignition and found nothing

Right but if the side electrode is gapped to far from the center electrode than the spark will be lost causing a misfire.

[ASIAN JUL]

Again, you are speaking Japanese to me lol.
The offers there if someone wants to ask them themselves cause I'm confused as hell.

[AWD GS]

what shop is it at? honestly to me it sounds like they are giving you the run around in order to get more money.

[ASIAN JUL]

John Hauser Drexel Automotive.


they're charging $100 for the diagnostic and $355 for pads/rotors/plugs and oil

[Matt@EuroJerks]

Originally Posted by MyCarIsFTL

Again, you are speaking Japanese to me lol.
The offers there if someone wants to ask them themselves cause I'm confused as hell.

The old damsel in distress!!!!

[Showoff03LS]

do you have the car home now or is it still at the shop?? id find a GM mechanic that knows the Ecos really good and ask that person , these small shops dont know enough. i highly dout that the Chain will jump tooth that easy, i know belts do , but not a Chain plus the Eco has a tensioner for the timing chain.

[AWD GS]

Originally Posted by MyCarIsFTL

John Hauser Drexel Automotive.


they're charging $100 for the diagnostic and $355 for pads/rotors/plugs and oil

what, thats crazy. ill do the brakes for 20 bucks lol, its really simple on a cavalier. pads and rotors would cost a total of 60-70 bucks.

[ASIAN JUL]

My car's still there. They're putting **** back together and I'm supposed to be getting it back within the hour.

[ASIAN JUL]

Final cost:

$414.44

[Matt@EuroJerks]

Originally Posted by Showoff03LS

do you have the car home now or is it still at the shop?? id find a GM mechanic that knows the Ecos really good and ask that person , these small shops dont know enough. i highly dout that the Chain will jump tooth that easy, i know belts do , but not a Chain plus the Eco has a tensioner for the timing chain.

I know in 12v VR6's they have plastic tensioners guides and they tend to break before the chain does. This causes jumped teeth and f'd heads.

[pinacup7]

You guys need to stop playing mechanic over the internet. There is no way to fix the car without it being in front of you

[jspek]

take my offer of 500 bucks. ill run it into the ground faster than you getting the money in the bank.