Sonic OC friendly?

[max2k1]

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

lol you're making me think of that South Park episode now...

I heart you for being a South Park fan (no homo)

[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL

Alex, I'm just wondering when do you think it's more appropriate to exercise your rights? If lots of people have this mentality about handguns, then in your opinion, technically nowhere sounds like a good place to open carry.

And just for the record... what attention? The OP says he does not and will not be open carrying and that he brought this up in case someone were to plan on open carrying.

I'm only speaking for myself but people who open carry, to me, are not doing it as a cry for attention. Maybe some people are pushing for acceptance rather than being singled out.

There was something going around about a gun meet...swell. Smaller scaled event...swell.

This is the biggest event of the year, police will be present, as well as over 1000 guests, many of whom don't know each other. Maybe it's better to "take one for the team" and not turn what should be a charity event into a gun show, I can almost guarantee that when a cop sees people OCing, they will come over and start asking for permits. Does the meet really need that kind of attention? Up to you guys. I'd just hate to see Bryan's and other people's hard work into planning this event go down the drain because people want to make it a "yes i can" argument...but I've been saying this for a while now and people don't listen so I'm pretty much not gonna talk about it anymore.

Originally Posted by max2k1

Am I just looking for attention when I'm strapped into my wheelchair and wearing a TLSO brace to support my spine with my gun in a shoulder holster in plain view? I cant exactly stick it in my pants or cover it with a shirt

There's exceptions to everything, truly sorry if I offended you.

[PAFirefighter11]

Originally Posted by max2k1

I heart you for being a South Park fan (no homo)

Hah, South Park may not be around for much longer though ... Since Trey/Matt were threatened with death. /threadjack lol

[angdefeo]

Originally Posted by max2k1

Am I just looking for attention when I'm strapped into my wheelchair and wearing a TLSO brace to support my spine with my gun in a shoulder holster in plain view? I cant exactly stick it in my pants or cover it with a shirt

I think you wear a large button up shirt over your rig and would be hidden.

[max2k1]

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

There was something going around about a gun meet...swell. Smaller scaled event...swell.

This is the biggest event of the year, police will be present, as well as over 1000 guests, many of whom don't know each other. Maybe it's better to "take one for the team" and not turn what should be a charity event into a gun show, I can almost guarantee that when a cop sees people OCing, they will come over and start asking for permits. Does the meet really need that kind of attention? Up to you guys. I'd just hate to see Bryan's and other people's hard work into planning this event go down the drain because people want to make it a "yes i can" argument...but I've been saying this for a while now and people don't listen so I'm pretty much not gonna talk about it anymore.

There's exceptions to everything, truly sorry if I offended you.

It doesnt matter if the person has a permit or not unless your in Philly. As long as they are over 21, they dont have to have a permit to walk around with a gun strapped to their hip in plain view

[PAFirefighter11]

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

...I can almost guarantee that when a cop sees people OCing, they will come over and start asking for permits.

You don't need to provide your LTCF (It's not a permit, it's a license) or any form of ID to a LEO if you are OC'ing and he has no other reason to ask for it.

EDIT: And as stated above, you don't need a LTCF to open carry in PA.

[CleanNeon98]

Didn't know that.

[max2k1]

Originally Posted by angdefeo

I think you wear a large button up shirt over your rig and would be hidden.

That type of shirt restricts arm movement. And when you dont have use of your legs anymore, you really dont want any kind of constriction in the parts of your body that still work. Also do you realize how large the shirt would have to be? At least a 6x And big shirts like that arent exactly cheap. If you wanna buy me one, I'd be down for that. But maybe I should invest in one. I dont want a cop to have trouble distinguishing between my crippled ass and some good for nothing criminal in a wheelchair

[max2k1]

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

Hah, South Park may not be around for much longer though ... Since Trey/Matt were threatened with death. /threadjack lol

After all the editing they did, I think they will be ok

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

You don't need to provide your LTCF (It's not a permit, it's a license) or any form of ID to a LEO if you are OC'ing and he has no other reason to ask for it.

EDIT: And as stated above, you don't need a LTCF to open carry in PA.

HAHA beat you to it

[PAFirefighter11]

You DO need a LTCF to transport the weapon in a vehicle, unless you're going to/from the range or similar, and have the weapon and ammunition separated/un-accessible to the passenger compartment.

[angdefeo]

Originally Posted by max2k1

That type of shirt restricts arm movement. And when you dont have use of your legs anymore, you really dont want any kind of constriction in the parts of your body that still work. Also do you realize how large the shirt would have to be? At least a 6x And big shirts like that arent exactly cheap. If you wanna buy me one, I'd be down for that. But maybe I should invest in one. I dont want a cop to have trouble distinguishing between my crippled ass and some good for nothing criminal in a wheelchair

I was not aware of the constrictions. I thougth it would be a simple matter of layering clothes.

Do you normally wear your shoulder rig openly? If so what has been your experience?

[ScubaSteve]

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

Figured I'd start quoting sources like everyone else has hah. I have friends who live in Mohnton, Shillington, Exeter, etc. I've been into Reading several times, my father even worked in West Reading, right off of 422 there. I know it's dangerous, though I never physically witnessed any crimes as I try to avoid downtown as often as possible ;-)

I lived in Shillington and it's a really nice area. It's not like downtown Reading is radioactive, you can safely live a few miles away.


Without trying to get too involved in this treadmill debate, what I don't understand is how some people feel that they can't be safe anywhere if they don't have a gun with them. I can understand why it makes someone feel better and there is no doubt that it could be really useful one day but I refuse to live my life afraid of every step I take. I don't carry a gun with me for the same reason that I don't wear a helmet when I walk down the street, it could save my life one day but instead of being afraid of everything that could happen to me I'd rather take life as it comes.

I want to make it clear that I have no issues with guns, I am a gun owner, and it doesn't bother me if someone wants to CC or OC, I just simply don't feel the need to. My big issue with the whole situation is that guns do make a lot of people uncomfortable and while there are plenty of valid reasons for someone wanting to carry I think that a responsible gun owner should always consider the impact that their weapon could have on another person (to an extent). Comments about wanting to OC just because it upsets people tell me that the person is not a responsible gun owner.

[angdefeo]

Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11

You DO need a LTCF to transport the weapon in a vehicle, unless you're going to/from the range or similar, and have the weapon and ammunition separated/un-accessible to the passenger compartment.

Help me i want to be clear.

So in a case where a person who does not have a LTCF chooses to openly carry at this meet would be breaking the law when they transported the firearm on the way to and home from the meet?

[PAFirefighter11]

Originally Posted by max2k1

After all the editing they did, I think they will be ok


HAHA beat you to it

Yah I am at work in several "Live Chats" (this webcam sex stuff is exhausting) so it's taking me a min or two to actually type out my responses.

[max2k1]

Its been so long since I've been able to go out because of constant hospitalizations as most of the members on here know.

This is what I look like in my chair

[angdefeo]

Originally Posted by ScubaSteve

My big issue with the whole situation to that guns do make a lot of people uncomfortable and while there are plenty of valid reasons for someone wanting to carry I think that a responsible gun owner should always consider the impact that their weapon could have on another person (to an extent). Comments about wanting to OC just because it upsets people tell me that the person is not a responsible gun owner.

Well said sir. I agree with you 1 million percent.

[PAFirefighter11]

Originally Posted by angdefeo

Help me i want to be clear.

So in a case where a person who does not have a LTCF chooses to openly carry at this meet would be breaking the law when they transported the firearm on the way to and home from the meet?

I am NOT a lawyer, but yes, they are not allow to just get in their vehicle, drive with a loaded weapon to/from the meet, and get out and walk around with it OC'ing. You must have a LTCF to carry it in your vehicle as that's considered "concealed".

[max2k1]

My friend who is a Staff SGT in the USAF is constantly OC'ing without any problems. Only time he ever had a problem was a couple of years ago the cops stopped him and took his gun because they didn't know the law about OC'ing. So after bothering the state troopers to find out the law, they gave him his gun back with a formal written apology

[Scapegoat]

as far as i know, in order to transport a weapon and ammo, both need to be separated and in different parts of the vehicle. so, gun in the trunk, ammo in the glove box. completely impossible to load the weapon quickly

[Scapegoat]

personally, i think i'm gonna strap my .22 to my chest and hang out with alex all day