Review: 2010 Honda Civic Si HFP not fast, is curious

[Elliott18t]

Originally Posted by gotvtec?

Lol im at work too haha and the hfp civic si has the same interior as the normal si

figured as much. Its still is obscenely expensive compared to what else is on the market with all the HFP parts lol. like todd said, its like the mugen si again.

[Fujito]

How are HFP parts expensive? $900 for a full painted lip kit is not bad at all. HFP wheels are $1500 or something, right? I think they look great.

My unpainted front lip alone cost more than the full HFP lip kit.

The Mugen is a different story.

[BigWhiteTodd]

Originally Posted by Fujito

How are HFP parts expensive? $900 for a full painted lip kit is not bad at all. HFP wheels are $1500 or something, right? I think they look great.

My unpainted front lip alone cost more than the full HFP lip kit.

The Mugen is a different story.

thats right cause the mugen was what 30 something new

[Asif22]

My friend got his HFP wheels brand new (17's) for 500 bucks for all 4. Like Fujito said the HFP lip kit is 900 bucks for the whole thing. It really isn't too bad. Mugen parts are way expensive for what they do.

The review is stupid. HFP seats and shift knob are not options and don't cost extra money. They are standard Si parts. The part about the car not being fast enough to use downforce? You don't have to be going 150mph to need downforce. Clearly the guy who wrote this has a gripe against the Si or he is just really stupid or both.

[Elliott18t]

I just built a sedan and it went from 22k to 28k with brakes the spoiler kit 18" wheels. the muffler and thats it. I didnt add any of the other stuff.

[Elliott18t]

it says right now. 358 front spoiler... 356 rear spoiler.. 604 for the side spoilers.. $2090 for the 18" hfp wheels...


im on the honda site.

[Fujito]

I had a Civic and I got the aero kit for $900.

[Elliott18t]

well maybe it went up in price? idk what the earlier prices where.

[Fujito]

But I don't know what your point is. These features are not mandatory. If you're too concerned about price then get the base model. The Evo X MR fully loaded is like $45,000. The base model GSR is $33,000. I got a model the interior sports package, SSS (spoiler, sound system, and HID lights), and 30GB navigation which made my GSR $38,000. You pay for the options. The aero kit for the Evo X is $2,000.

And then there's BMW. Start with a $40,000 car, add options, and end up with a $60,000 car.

[Elliott18t]

the review was about an SI with all these parts.. thats the point lol.

[Fujito]

I read it, but the review makes it sound like these things are a waste of money. That's an opinion, which is only relative to the buyer. If the prospect is simply interested in the best motor and really only N/A car on the market without any frills then they will get a base model Si coupe. If they want to be a little different or are concerned about looks then they will get HFP features. The HFP parts are not overpriced when you compare them to other aftermarket parts. Honda dealerships rarely have a Si in the lot, and if they do it most likely won't even have the HFP kit on it. I've never ever seen a Si on the lot with HFP wheels, let alone aero.

It's way too biased to be credible, and if you agree with everything written in there then you're just reinforcing the prejudices you already had. It's like when a die hard Republican watches Glenn Beck.

[Elliott18t]

i posted two articles, one a few posts back. I dont agree 100% with everything. But its nice to get reviews from every angle. Also, it looks like the autoblog, blogger was a well respected reviewer? he has moved on to motortrend and has done many others. The title of the thread may be asking for it but that was the title of the article. The man is known to push buttons apparently :P

[gotvtec?]

Originally Posted by Elliott18t

it says right now. 358 front spoiler... 356 rear spoiler.. 604 for the side spoilers.. $2090 for the 18" hfp wheels...


im on the honda site.

Yea obivously on hondas website go look on college hills and see how much it really is. Speaking about unnecessary models what about the feranheight gti and gli which ha no performance added parts but wheels and a special color and i see them go for 36k

[Elliott18t]

those are more limited edition than add on parts. Agreed on the stupid price though.

[gotvtec?]

Well so was the mugen you idiot which actually has better suspension than a regular civic si unlike the feranheight which only has wheels

[jpalamar]

Good or bad car doesn't matter... in the end it is an overpriced econo car.

[gotvtec?]

Yes it is palmar

[Elliott18t]

[Asif22]

I lean more to some brands than others but if something is nice I will admit it. I don't even have an Si. I use to but now I have an s2000...I miss the car so much, and I am actually debating picking one up in the future...and I'm a very picky person. Its peppy stock, not stupid fast. With bolt ons it can be a quick little car and give some of the bigger boys a run for its money all without a turbo, being reliable, and handling well, and being really fun to drive. This review is giving an impression that the car is really slow but its not. It moves well for what it is. What does he expect out of a 20,000 dollar civic? Lets go test drive a prius and complain about speed, drive my s2000 and complain about space or drive a terminatior cobra and complain about gas milage. Some vw gti owners laugh and call it slow when it's acutally pulling the same exact 1/4 mile times as they are stock. I don't see why people compare the honda to much faster cars, it was never suppose to run with those. Everyone seems to benchmark their cars to the Si which I find quite hilarious. The civic has a big part in the import/tuner scene before all these newer cars came around....people figured out you can make a slower import beat a faster car pretty easily. Everyone was taking their old datsuns and making them quick. In the 90's so many people modded hondas and recently moved onto bigger and better things which is cool, but don't forget where some of you came from( not at anyone particular)This reminds me of the whole reason I ever got into Honda. They are constantly made fun of and under estimated, but in the right hands they can be great cars.

[Elliott18t]

IM not saying MY car is any faster or anything. I do see a lot of these SI owners thinking its a damn rocket ship though which it is not either. same can be said for vw.