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Old 12-11-2008, 01:40 AM   #761
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good point, if you have unlimited messing we have a server tha we all talk on, it can come out of texts or emails. thats mainly where about 85% of the active members talk about runs and plans. Like this sunday we are doing a turbo install in PA
PM me some info, I've got unlimited texts. I may be around for the install as well.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:41 AM   #762
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At first there was no pic quoted there and I was gona say "damn thats not nice" lol.
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Old 12-11-2008, 08:20 AM   #763
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I am absolutely down to hang with the other Miatas

On a side note, I was talking to a member last night, he is also looking at some for his car potentially and he said they can't be powdercoated because they are heat treated at the factory and it will weaken them...not sure if that's true though, just giving you a heads up.
Find out what type of aluminum the 6UL are made of in addition to their heat treat process. It is possible that the wheels could be heat treated again without reducing the tensile strength.

Aluminum 6061-T6, which is the most commonly used aluminum for forged wheels. The aluminum is initially aged at 320 deg F to give the alloy it's strength. Heating it at anything above the original 320 deg F will continue the aging process. Continual aging will improve the strength of the alloy but only to a certain point.
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:04 PM   #764
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be careful with the sparco's you buy... i have had terrible luck with them fading and falling apart... also try and find a shop that has them in stock so you can sit in them... i had the torino 2s in one of my DSMs and it was a SNUG fit, and i think your bigger than i am as well.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:24 AM   #765
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I'm 210 and fit in my sparco sprint just fine. And my matching sparco harness looks pretty lol.
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:06 AM   #766
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Find out what type of aluminum the 6UL are made of in addition to their heat treat process. It is possible that the wheels could be heat treated again without reducing the tensile strength.

Aluminum 6061-T6, which is the most commonly used aluminum for forged wheels. The aluminum is initially aged at 320 deg F to give the alloy it's strength. Heating it at anything above the original 320 deg F will continue the aging process. Continual aging will improve the strength of the alloy but only to a certain point.
Emilio at 949 racing will not warintee any 6UL that has been powder coated. He says it will weaken the wheel, and I believe him. With a nice paint job it shouldent really look any different. They are sick wheels.
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:26 AM   #767
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15's look perfect on miata's, DO IT!
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:09 AM   #768
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15x9's look perfect on miata's, DO IT!
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:13 AM   #769
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Its so tempting but that guy is on coils and my ride height will be totally off from what is in the pic, more wheelgap considerably. I may have to hold out on this stage till I pay off the car and can afford to actually spend that kinda money. Wheels and tires are gona cost me 1400 or so when said and done, 450 or so for the rollbar, 500? for a seat, and the coilovers I want are 2k
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:45 PM   #770
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Why do you want to powdercoat the 6UL's anyway?
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:53 PM   #771
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Why do you want to powdercoat the 6UL's anyway?
i thought you werent supposed to powdercoat wheels because it can weeken them
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:56 PM   #772
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i thought you werent supposed to powdercoat wheels because it can weeken them
There's a lot of debate on that topic.
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:16 PM   #773
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I heard something like that about forged wheels but not cast ones.
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I heard something like that about forged wheels but not cast ones.
It only applies to forged wheels because of the annealing process.

At work, we heat treat stainless steel so most of my background isn't with aluminum, but I work with an army of engineers so I have a good background on the subject.
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So what's the deal with the 6UL. Does the coating process weaken the integrity of the wheel? I may call 949 just out of curiosity.
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:28 PM   #776
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:29 PM   #777
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alex u get my text i sent u a pic of the enkei rims 16's
Nah for some reason I can't get pictures on this phone from anyone. Did you get new shoes? Call me.
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Why not look into anodizing? Anodizing is actually a form of corrosion that adds a hardness to the surface of most aluminum alloys, 6601 T6 ( i think) being the alloy most familiar. A hard anodize finish is way better then any powder coat (paint) for many reasons. It truly resists scratching, will never peel off, is color fast, and is very corrosion resistant. Note that there are soft anodize finishes (look kind of shiny, and shallow) that are crap, always ask for a hard anodized finish (duller and deeper color). Hard anodize is only available in deep silver and black or slightly bronze color. The dip in electrically charged sulfuric acid (must use titanum racks to caddy the aluminum in this acid) should be one hour long, and the finished product must be properly sealed afterwards by quenching it. End result is a great product that wont weaken your wheels, and I think will turn out better. This method is use in marine applications for aluminum. I've also had it done to my dirtbike wheels.
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So what's the deal with the 6UL. Does the coating process weaken the integrity of the wheel? I may call 949 just out of curiosity.
None of us can answer that. The ones that would know would be the people involved with the manufacture of the wheel since they would know at what temps and duration the material was processed.

If you want to powdercoat, you're better off buying a two or three piece wheel which will allow you to remove the center section, leaving the outer rim section unaffected by the annealing process.
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I've heard of anodizing but I wasn't sure what it is. Thanks for the info for sure, I will have to look into it as an option.

Chances are that I won't be doing the wheels quite yet. My car won't have the same stance as the red one, and coilovers are too expensive for the ones I want at the moment. I am considering frame rails and a butterfly brace in the spring however, seeing as the combo is only $400 plus shipping which happens to be cheap by my standard. It also helps a great deal from what I hear, frame rails add 30% rigidity to the chassis and I'm not sure on the brace but it has recieved great reviews from buyers.
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