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Old 04-15-2007, 03:31 PM   #201
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Luckily the majority of Marines aren't like him. For what it's worth, I shoot MUCH better then my two marine friends, with absolutely zero formal training. He's proud of what he has done, and I'm proud of him for serving. But I do agree by stating that "civilians should just stay out of the way" is kind of a stupid ASSUMPTION to make (saying they wouldn't be able to help).
Who said civilians wouldn't be valuable? Who said that thier skills wouldn't be used?
Should 90% of them stay out of the way? Not only yeah, but f uck yeah.

Listen let's call a spade a spade here. What we're talking about isn't freak'n Red Dawn. You guys all seem to think this **** is paintball. It's not. You mess up, you're dead. Game over.
Look at Black Hawk Down in Mogadishu. Look at all the civilians that were trying to fight there with no formal experience.
The US lost what? 19 men? They sustained thier position with little support and bare essentails taken into combat for over 18 hours.
The Somalis lost OVER 1,000. You don't think the Somalis had weapons familiarization/experience? They hunt with AK-47's. They had technicals with .50 cals. But they're unorganized and too proud to act as a team.

That is what I'm talking about. Anything unorganized gets crushed. So yeah, go ahead with your drinking buddy and your .22 and pit yourself up against a well trained and sustained fighting force and see how long you last. I'm glad all the ego's here are more important then use'n the brain God gave you.
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Old 04-15-2007, 03:42 PM   #202
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I forgot to mention...If we get invaded tomorrow, I'm going out looting.
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Old 04-15-2007, 04:01 PM   #203
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lol

I never did get in to paint ball. Wouldn't that give me more skills if I did though? And can I use my pellet guns instead of the .22? What about a .17?

Civilians caused 19 casualties, or are you stating something else? Because I would say that if we got invaded, 19 enemy casualties is better then zero. Look at the Spartans! They initially lost and got completed wiped out, but the casualties they caused (very small in percentage) caused Xerxes and his forced to ease up and be scuuuuuuuured. My math might not be the greatest, but 19>0. Right?

I agree with what you say, I just don't see the need to get so gun-hoe about your point. Christ, relax, would you. We all get it, your experience=you are better then all of us, no need to rub it in! I can go all sorts of ways with your post, but just let it go and let us have our fun. WE (as in 99% of us) KNOW that we aren't going to be invaded, therefore, we can joke around about i. That is, Sir!

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Who said civilians wouldn't be valuable? Who said that thier skills wouldn't be used?
Should 90% of them stay out of the way? Not only yeah, but f uck yeah.

Listen let's call a spade a spade here. What we're talking about isn't freak'n Red Dawn. You guys all seem to think this **** is paintball. It's not. You mess up, you're dead. Game over.
Look at Black Hawk Down in Mogadishu. Look at all the civilians that were trying to fight there with no formal experience.
The US lost what? 19 men? They sustained thier position with little support and bare essentails taken into combat for over 18 hours.
The Somalis lost OVER 1,000. You don't think the Somalis had weapons familiarization/experience? They hunt with AK-47's. They had technicals with .50 cals. But they're unorganized and too proud to act as a team.

That is what I'm talking about. Anything unorganized gets crushed. So yeah, go ahead with your drinking buddy and your .22 and pit yourself up against a well trained and sustained fighting force and see how long you last. I'm glad all the ego's here are more important then use'n the brain God gave you.

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Old 04-15-2007, 04:18 PM   #204
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lol

I never did get in to paint ball. Wouldn't that give me more skills if I did though? And can I use my pellet guns instead of the .22? What about a .17?

Civilians caused 19 casualties, or are you stating something else? Because I would say that if we got invaded, 19 enemy casualties is better then zero. Look at the Spartans! They initially lost and got completed wiped out, but the casualties they caused (very small in percentage) caused Xerxes and his forced to ease up and be scuuuuuuuured. My math might not be the greatest, but 19>0. Right?

I agree with what you say, I just don't see the need to get so gun-hoe about your point. Christ, relax, would you. We all get it, your experience=you are better then all of us, no need to rub it in! I can go all sorts of ways with your post, but just let it go and let us have our fun. WE (as in 99% of us) KNOW that we aren't going to be invaded, therefore, we can joke around about i. That is, Sir!
I'm not looking for an I'm right. I just don't like to see people get hurt before they can take someone out with um. TST gives me PTSD LOL.
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:10 PM   #205
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Are you kidding me? Speaking of intelligence, you mispelled "experience". I got two degrees while on active duty, and was handed several programs, including a correctional custody program and a youth aversion program, to overhaul, set up, handle, and modify as I saw fit. That was as an E-5/E-6, so they weren't relying on me and other like me to follow the leader like a bunch of cattle. Sure, there are some less-than-intelligent people in the military, as there are anywhere, but you've been watching too many movies if you think being in the military means walking around like a robot obeying your programming. You should gain some knowledge before you start bashing a group of fine men and women and indicating that all military people are stupid like cattle. No one is disrespecting you. Are you feeling inferior for some other reason? Lose the attitude, it's silly.
Pointing out spelling mistakes is dumb.

And I wasn't talking to you at all. Not even close. Everything I have said stemmed from this:

"This thread is funny. With the exception of Ronin most of your guys would just get yourselves killed even if you did have the balls to pick up a weapon and use it LOL."

I made some sweeping generalities about cattle, but more to be an ass then anything else, and any other inflammatory parts of my posts were more intended to throw LS1's initial statement back at him.

Friendly jabs.

Thanks for pointing out that my spelling sucks. I spell checked this message, and there were a few grammar flags, so please don't point them out ;) and relax. If I really thought public service was stupid I wouldn't have been a volly whacker for so long, and I've personally shook the hands of every new guy/girl that is hired at my detective agency when I see they have served in the military.

Speaking of which, i'm most afraid of the Army Ranger that I work with, and he's only about 5'6". Choke someone out with your left arm while favoring a ripped bicep in your right. Youch.

Back to silliness, I still want Barry on my team.
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:26 PM   #206
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:51 PM   #207
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If we actually got invaded I would join the air force and try and be a pilot. I was actually studying for the AFOQT. But I spoke to a few friends in the military and went up to willow grove reserve base and talked to a pilot and they all said that even if I got accepted by the board into a Pilot spot, passed OTS and made it through undergrad pilot training I would still not be guaranteed a spot in flight school. I could still be switched into another non-flying officer position if a spot wasn't open.
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Just added you. hahaha.

Hahah yesss! Spartaaa! I mean U_S_A!
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Find the local militia or join the army.

You get a much better idea of what you're up against and how to win that way.
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I guess food would be the next problem for a lot of us, which gives the mountains another plus with the abundance of readily available wildlife. Plus I would get to make a bunch of deer/venison jerky!

You must not have looked at LS's picture. I'm the asshole in the middle of eveyone shooting guns and bazookas holding a pizza in the sky like I am making a sacrifice to the gods.
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Unorganized retards vs. Trained Soldiers: (BTW this might be consider NSFW cause there are dead bodies and ****)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ef_1176598302

They seem kinda confident in the beginning don't they?
Take into account that the American soldiers were totally unprepared and the insurgents had the element of surprise and numbers.
Gee I thought in the movies bullets didn't go through cars?
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Hahah yesss! Spartaaa! I mean U_S_A!
This is awesome.
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You must not have looked at LS's picture. I'm the asshole in the middle of eveyone shooting guns and bazookas holding a pizza in the sky like I am making a sacrifice to the gods.
Heck yes. Pizza for everyone!
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Unorganized retards vs. Trained Soldiers: (BTW this might be consider NSFW cause there are dead bodies and ****)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ef_1176598302

They seem kinda confident in the beginning don't they?
Take into account that the American soldiers were totally unprepared and the insurgents had the element of surprise and numbers.
Gee I thought in the movies bullets didn't go through cars?
There bad, they wont be making that mistake again.
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Unorganized retards vs. Trained Soldiers: (BTW this might be consider NSFW cause there are dead bodies and ****)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ef_1176598302

I'll never understand why they are always wearing face coverings. It's not like anyone would know who the hell they are. I doubt they would come and attack a US post and one of the Marines be like "hey, that's Akmed from the food store!"


I do think most of the guys posting on here have more common sense than to just drive two little cars into the middle of gunfire. That was just a stupid move...period.
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Apparently as civilians we would plan to drive up to a fortified bunker with a pickup truck and fire a few rounds that would instantly hit all the soldiers in the forehead. :-)

I especially liked the model that they used for the planning of the attack. Even looking at the model I was like "damn, that tower is a long way away".

However the biggest question this raises is where did they get the matchbox cars from...
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I'd try to lure them to Camden. And then let the Camdenians do what they do best. Highest murder rate in the country wassup wassup.....
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I'd try to lure them to Camden. And then let the Camdenians do what they do best. Highest murder rate in the country wassup wassup.....

Like Wesley Snipes in Rising Sun!!!
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