Official BK Meet. Mount Laurel. Tuesday evening.

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by blackvr4

i cant comment on the rust but i can comment on the fact that finding any 20+ year old car without rust in shell form is going to be hard as is., but i feel like its much easier to fix something little by little then buy a bare shell and start swapping **** over into it, hes gonna get overwhelmed when he sees a stripped shell, and have to redo all the wiring and what not. its gonna be way more headache then it will be worth. its really overwhelming putting a car together practically from the ground up, I have yet to put a together a complete shell from stripped to together, and ive pulled and rebuilt a ton of engines now on mitsubishis, GFs talon twice, bros Vr-4 twice, my talon 3times, my white Vr-4, when you have very little wrenching experience, no offense james, but i can tell you this, the only person you can rely on to be there 100% of the time while you put it together is yourself, people might be able to help you here and there buts it will be tuff to swap everything into another shell, especially when you have wrenched on your car so little as is and need so many tools required with building up another shell from the ground. with body work you need like some basic hand held tools.

look at your bro for example, how much money did it run him to fix the Mr2 couldnt have been that much and it looks pretty damn good from when ive seen it.

Well, it seems as if we have two different definitions of the word "shell". When I refer to a "Shell" I refer to it in the same context in which James and I orginally talked about many weeks ago. A "shell" was meant to be essentially a complete car without and engine and some other tid-bits. In this case it was essentially a one to one swap where his engine, trans, and wiring harness would be removed and put into the new "Shell" and it should be a turn key operation.

I think when you refer to a "Shell" you're referring to a bare or almost bare uni-body in which case it would be easier to just do the body work on James' current car.

In reference to finding a rust free shell, they're out there. A lot of people buy them down south or out west and have them shipped. This is not a very viable option for James because of the cost but he still may be able to find a cleaner shell than the one he has where the rust isn't as visible.

On the subject of my Brother's MR2, the car is not fixed. Bent parts were removed and the bumpers and fenders were mounted as one complete piece. There is no crash bumper, certain radiator mounts are missing, a lot of the front sub structure has been removed or bend into place (bending metal of that thickness tends to stress it) and certain things are not mounted entirely or have been rigged to fit. For what my brother is doing, that was fine. It cost him almost nothing and he doesn't care. Should he ever get into even a minor accident (< 5mph) the front end of the car will crumple like an aluminum can the car will be damaged beyond repair. I'd assumed since James' Supra is his DD and only car he'd want it to be done right so he doesn't have to redo anything down the road (I.E. taillights leaking, bad panel fitment, rust because of bare metal and so on and so forth.)