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CleanNeon98 · 03-30-2009, 10:15 AM

OK so after I put my new brakes in I noticed a strange rubbing noise coming from them or something in the area. If I move forward, even rolling at 5mph, there is a rubbing noise that comes from the brakes. I thought I had adjusted my rear calipers wrong (using the screw) so I checked them, and the noise is still there. As soon as I touch the brake pedal the noise goes away and it doesn't happen if I am moving backwards. Turning the wheel doesn't make it louder or quieter, and doesn't eliminate it.

Any ammount of pressure on the brake pedal makes the noise go away, and if I let off the pedal there is about a half a second of lag and then it comes back. I think it's coming from the brakes anyway but maybe it's just me hoping that it's not something more serious. Also if I pull on the e-brake even a little bit the noise goes away too. Brakes in my car are Hawk HPS which I hear are a bit loud but I didn't think I would hear stuff like this.

DocWalt · 03-31-2009, 09:24 AM

Are all the anti-squeal pieces back in? Did you bed the pads?

My brakes are doing similar things, I can feel it in the steering wheel and the pedals though...

russiankid · 03-31-2009, 02:43 PM

Sounds like your rear pads are just dragging. Have you tried loosening the e-brake a bit?

The Captain · 03-31-2009, 02:47 PM

sounds like the new pads just need to be worn in a little.

The noise is probably them just barely touching the rotors.

I'd say give them a little time and it will go away.

Does it cause the car to noticeably roll less easily?

CleanNeon98 · 03-31-2009, 05:37 PM

Nah car rolls the same. Put the brakes in about 1.5 months ago, and they didn't make the noise at first. The pads have a rep of being noisy, so this may just be one of their phases. I think it's starting to go away little by little.

pinacup7 · 04-01-2009, 07:33 PM

make sure none of your backing plates are hitting the rotor

russiankid · 04-01-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinacup7

make sure none of your backing plates are hitting the rotor

Noise would still be present with the application of brakes.

CleanNeon98 · 04-06-2009, 12:39 AM

Now it's changed. The rubbing went away, but when I am on the brakes at usual city pressure (not too hard not too soft) at around 20mph it starts to pop and slows down as speed drops. Applying more brake pressure makes the noise go away, applying very little brake pressure also makes it go away. The noise is present with the clutch in or out, in gear or out of gear. Sometimes also pops once when I am taking off from a light.

I definately think the issue is brake related, be it a seized caliper or a defective brake pad (keep in mind they've been on the car for 2 months topps).

DocWalt · 04-06-2009, 02:08 PM

That sounds even more like mine now, lol. Have you checked all the caliper bolts? It's possible you glazed the rotors, but I don't think it would make it "pop." Is there any sort of spring in the caliper that holds the pads up (or down) in the caliper? My car has extra springs to do that, and if they're inserted backwards, they clunk and make weird noises.

russiankid · 04-06-2009, 04:21 PM

Did you use grease on the pad clips and caliper guides? I had popping sounds when I needed to regrease mine.

CleanNeon98 · 04-06-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russiankid

Did you use grease on the pad clips and caliper guides? I had popping sounds when I needed to regrease mine.

Didn't grease them.

Drove tonight when it was wet out, no pop noise...Sam, next time you're here, tech day, I need to get this done.

russiankid · 04-06-2009, 09:06 PM

Thats could very well be your problem. Takes 10 minutes to grease it up. I may be there Friday actually.

CleanNeon98 · 04-06-2009, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russiankid

Thats could very well be your problem. Takes 10 minutes to grease it up. I may be there Friday actually.

Let's do it. Has to be kinda earlier though, I'm going to see Louie DeVito in the PM.

russiankid · 04-06-2009, 09:10 PM

I dunno when I'll be there and if I'll be there. I have to wash the BMW, tire rotation, and tranny fluid check, and get gas. Then I may be going over to my grandparents for some dinner ****.

CleanNeon98 · 04-06-2009, 09:25 PM

Failsauce...I'll talk to you later in the week about this, maybe you can just tell me where to grease and with what and I'll have at it on my own...is it ok to drive the car like this though?

russiankid · 04-06-2009, 09:31 PM

Yeah you'll be fine.

RC1488 · 04-07-2009, 10:22 PM

You have HPS pads. You need to bed-in the pads. You'll prolly notice in anouther month a major thumping noise bc you "warped" your rotors bc you did not do this. http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedinstock.shtml

Also, dragging of the pads normal. When they are new this happens even more. Once they wear a little the noise will stop (as it did in your case) and everything is fine.

Also did you use high temp grease on the caliper pins?

CleanNeon98 · 04-09-2009, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC1488

You have HPS pads. You need to bed-in the pads. You'll prolly notice in anouther month a major thumping noise bc you "warped" your rotors bc you did not do this. http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedinstock.shtml

Also, dragging of the pads normal. When they are new this happens even more. Once they wear a little the noise will stop (as it did in your case) and everything is fine.

Also did you use high temp grease on the caliper pins?

I did not use grease, I'll have to rip it apart on Monday and do it. The clunking noise now happens when I am rolling backwards, when I touch the brake it's gone.

Keeper1343 · 05-02-2009, 02:14 PM

i don't think its brake related at all. Im leaning towards the rear, bushings or a bolt loose.

CleanNeon98 · 05-02-2009, 02:58 PM

Yea I'm thinking that as well. Inspecting Monday.

03-30-2009, 10:15 AM	#1
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Brake noise? OK so after I put my new brakes in I noticed a strange rubbing noise coming from them or something in the area. If I move forward, even rolling at 5mph, there is a rubbing noise that comes from the brakes. I thought I had adjusted my rear calipers wrong (using the screw) so I checked them, and the noise is still there. As soon as I touch the brake pedal the noise goes away and it doesn't happen if I am moving backwards. Turning the wheel doesn't make it louder or quieter, and doesn't eliminate it. Any ammount of pressure on the brake pedal makes the noise go away, and if I let off the pedal there is about a half a second of lag and then it comes back. I think it's coming from the brakes anyway but maybe it's just me hoping that it's not something more serious. Also if I pull on the e-brake even a little bit the noise goes away too. Brakes in my car are Hawk HPS which I hear are a bit loud but I didn't think I would hear stuff like this. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-31-2009, 02:43 PM	#3
russiankid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lincoln University PA Member #7769 My Ride: 2012 Scion tC iTrader: (0)	Sounds like your rear pads are just dragging. Have you tried loosening the e-brake a bit? __________________ 2012' Scion tC 6-speed M/T.

03-31-2009, 02:47 PM	#4
The Captain Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Philly - FBG$ Member #3369 My Ride: Prelude iTrader: (2)	sounds like the new pads just need to be worn in a little. The noise is probably them just barely touching the rotors. I'd say give them a little time and it will go away. Does it cause the car to noticeably roll less easily? __________________ Thank you for flying Air force Airlines. Oh me? They call me The Captain. - "America is all about speed - hot, nasty bad-ass speed." Eleanor Roosevelt (1965)

03-31-2009, 05:37 PM	#5
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Nah car rolls the same. Put the brakes in about 1.5 months ago, and they didn't make the noise at first. The pads have a rep of being noisy, so this may just be one of their phases. I think it's starting to go away little by little. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

04-06-2009, 12:39 AM	#8
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Now it's changed. The rubbing went away, but when I am on the brakes at usual city pressure (not too hard not too soft) at around 20mph it starts to pop and slows down as speed drops. Applying more brake pressure makes the noise go away, applying very little brake pressure also makes it go away. The noise is present with the clutch in or out, in gear or out of gear. Sometimes also pops once when I am taking off from a light. I definately think the issue is brake related, be it a seized caliper or a defective brake pad (keep in mind they've been on the car for 2 months topps). __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-31-2009, 09:24 AM	#2
DocWalt Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Royersford, PA Member #10805 My Ride: '92 GTI, '19 MX-5 iTrader: (0)	Are all the anti-squeal pieces back in? Did you bed the pads? My brakes are doing similar things, I can feel it in the steering wheel and the pedals though...

04-01-2009, 07:33 PM	#6
pinacup7 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under a hood Member #1764 My Ride: Baaaaahd GTO iTrader: (0)	make sure none of your backing plates are hitting the rotor

04-06-2009, 02:08 PM	#9
DocWalt Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Royersford, PA Member #10805 My Ride: '92 GTI, '19 MX-5 iTrader: (0)	That sounds even more like mine now, lol. Have you checked all the caliper bolts? It's possible you glazed the rotors, but I don't think it would make it "pop." Is there any sort of spring in the caliper that holds the pads up (or down) in the caliper? My car has extra springs to do that, and if they're inserted backwards, they clunk and make weird noises.

04-06-2009, 04:21 PM	#10
russiankid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lincoln University PA Member #7769 My Ride: 2012 Scion tC iTrader: (0)	Did you use grease on the pad clips and caliper guides? I had popping sounds when I needed to regrease mine. __________________ 2012' Scion tC 6-speed M/T.

04-06-2009, 09:06 PM	#12
russiankid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lincoln University PA Member #7769 My Ride: 2012 Scion tC iTrader: (0)	Thats could very well be your problem. Takes 10 minutes to grease it up. I may be there Friday actually. __________________ 2012' Scion tC 6-speed M/T.

04-06-2009, 09:10 PM	#14
russiankid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lincoln University PA Member #7769 My Ride: 2012 Scion tC iTrader: (0)	I dunno when I'll be there and if I'll be there. I have to wash the BMW, tire rotation, and tranny fluid check, and get gas. Then I may be going over to my grandparents for some dinner ****. __________________ 2012' Scion tC 6-speed M/T.

04-06-2009, 09:25 PM	#15
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Failsauce...I'll talk to you later in the week about this, maybe you can just tell me where to grease and with what and I'll have at it on my own...is it ok to drive the car like this though? __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

04-06-2009, 09:31 PM	#16
russiankid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lincoln University PA Member #7769 My Ride: 2012 Scion tC iTrader: (0)	Yeah you'll be fine. __________________ 2012' Scion tC 6-speed M/T.

04-07-2009, 10:22 PM	#17
RC1488 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Carmel/Albany Member #10347 My Ride: '95 SC2 iTrader: (0)	You have HPS pads. You need to bed-in the pads. You'll prolly notice in anouther month a major thumping noise bc you "warped" your rotors bc you did not do this. http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedinstock.shtml Also, dragging of the pads normal. When they are new this happens even more. Once they wear a little the noise will stop (as it did in your case) and everything is fine. Also did you use high temp grease on the caliper pins?

05-02-2009, 02:14 PM	#19
Keeper1343 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Member #5714 My Ride: 99 Honda Prelude... get some. iTrader: (0)	i don't think its brake related at all. Im leaning towards the rear, bushings or a bolt loose. __________________ Cleanneon (4:51:38 PM): guys find a vag, start bangin it, forget their friends Cleanneon (4:52:00 PM): 2 months (usually less) later the vag finds another douchebag, and your friends want nothing to do with you Keeper1343 (4:52:07 PM): lol Cleanneon (4:52:07 PM): on top of which it hurts you to pee

05-02-2009, 02:58 PM	#20
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Yea I'm thinking that as well. Inspecting Monday. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

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