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Old 10-13-2008, 12:00 PM   #1
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Undercover police vehicles

Alright the only reason my friends and I decided to start this thread is mainly because of the police in our area causing troubles for us for no reason at all.

I honestly have nothing against law or the enforcement of it, but when a group of kids that aren't doing anything wrong are getting chased around for things that are completely bogus, it turns into a personal matter.

The crew and i obviously have had bad experiences with law in our past, but all of us are good kids, we don't go around our neighborhood racing, doing burnouts, or causing trouble. We're just a group of kids that want to be able to hang out where we are able to show that we aren't the typical "tuner car" drivers.

So anyway we got together and figured out a way to warn everyone when they are driving around which vehicles to look for that are completely out of the ordinary for a police officer to be driving. Feel free to add to the list its the car make and model and where they've been seen. Or if you know anything about any of the ones listed let me know and i'll add it.

1. Blacked out Ford F150 with a yellow/black CAT (the big machine) license plate - seen mostly driving up and down route 202 and route 30 mostly between King of Prussia and Coatesville.

2. Yellow Acura Integra TypeR just a typical stock type r all badges still on it and everything - seen mostly driving around Exton area egging on (mostly uti kids) to race.

3. Blacked our Dodge Charger (more and more everyday)

4. Dodge Intrepids

5. Dodge Magnums

6. The obvious Crown Vics.

7. Ford Taurus

8. Black Dodge Durango

9. White Dodge Durango

10. Ford Explorer

11. Chevy Silverado

12. Ford Expedition

13. White Dodge Ram 1500 - seen mostly between West Chester and Thorndale.

14. Harley Davidson Motorcycle - seen in Parkesburg.


Like I said anymore just let me know, we'll keep it going.
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I could be wrong, but in the case of the Yellow Type-R, if the officer provokes you to race or something of that sort, I believe that is entrapment. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered hearing that. But yeah, I was having some trouble with the police in my town. I'm usually really good at talking my way out of tickets, except they found a solution - a female cop would pull me over all the time - no talking my way outta that one, ha. There was also a blacked out Dodge Durango that would follow me in my town, that finally stopped once i talked to one of the cops i knew from back in high school.
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I could be wrong, but in the case of the Yellow Type-R, if the officer provokes you to race or something of that sort, I believe that is entrapment. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered hearing that. But yeah, I was having some trouble with the police in my town. I'm usually really good at talking my way out of tickets, except they found a solution - a female cop would pull me over all the time - no talking my way outta that one, ha. There was also a blacked out Dodge Durango that would follow me in my town, that finally stopped once i talked to one of the cops i knew from back in high school.
thats definetly entrapment, but honestly half the kids at UTI are morons and deserve all the tickets they get, seems like everyday there will be guys coming in late becuase they decided to haul ass down 100 and get caught
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^^i dont think its entrapment. They are not requiring you, or even pressuring you to race. they are just opening the opportunity(which could possibly be considered entrapment) but i still think thats not entrapment. hopefully someone with more legal education will chime in. Also, if they are bothering you, you're probably breaking the law or being shady.
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but honestly half the kids at UTI are morons and deserve all the tickets they get, seems like everyday there will be guys coming in late becuase they decided to haul ass down 100 and get caught
They sit on the turnpike off ramp on south side of rt100 and time you between the two black lines painted on the concrete barrier. Painted lines go up and down the side of the barrier between the two sides of the road.
They also park on the northside by the U-turn entrence to the Industrial park.
They also sit in the first parking lot of the business on Pennsylvania Ave.
And on old township line rd on the other side of the road.

I know many of the kids driving out of UTI floor it to the stoplight at rt100.
People have moved from that area cause of the way the kids where driving on just that part of the road. Also there have been many accidents involving students from that school. Some kids got killed a few years ago.

You just need to drive the speed limit and not rev or race in that part of Uwchlan and upper Uwchlan township. Cause they won't give you a break.
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They sit on the turnpike off ramp on south side of rt100 and time you between the two black lines painted on the concrete barrier. Painted lines go up and down the side of the barrier between the two sides of the road.
They also park on the northside by the U-turn entrence to the Industrial park.
They also sit in the first parking lot of the business on Pennsylvania Ave.
And on old township line rd on the other side of the road.

I know many of the kids driving out of UTI floor it to the stoplight at rt100.
People have moved from that area cause of the way the kids where driving on just that part of the road. Also there have been many accidents involving students from that school. Some kids got killed a few years ago.

You just need to drive the speed limit and not rev or race in that part of Uwchlan and upper Uwchlan township. Cause they won't give you a break.

yeah i hate it, i drive like a granny through there, and i never wear my uti clothes till i get to school cuase it seriously seems like a giant target if a cop spots you with a UTI shirt on doing even something slightly questionable. But i still gotta laugh at the line of idiots pulled over everyday around 145, always a mustang or a civic it seems like.
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I could be wrong, but in the case of the Yellow Type-R, if the officer provokes you to race or something of that sort, I believe that is entrapment. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered hearing that. But yeah, I was having some trouble with the police in my town. I'm usually really good at talking my way out of tickets, except they found a solution - a female cop would pull me over all the time - no talking my way outta that one, ha. There was also a blacked out Dodge Durango that would follow me in my town, that finally stopped once i talked to one of the cops i knew from back in high school.
shes right kind of.. entrapment is why they couldnt do more besides imbarass the guys on "dateline to catch a preditor" but im sure they will get you for some kind of moving violation.
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shes right kind of.. entrapment is why they couldnt do more besides imbarass the guys on "dateline to catch a preditor" but im sure they will get you for some kind of moving violation.
false, about dateline anyway... those people do get charged... not for sleeping with a minor, but the attempt... etc... usually no jail time, minor probation.

the police aren't entrapping those people. Random civilians are... the police are just there
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...or you could just not do anything illegal and not worry about it. if you are doing anything illegal you've got to accept the potential consequences. if you're wrongly accused of something you can take it to court and prove your case.
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...or you could just not do anything illegal and not worry about it. if you are doing anything illegal you've got to accept the potential consequences. if you're wrongly accused of something you can take it to court and prove your case.
This response is great. As if the cops won't lie in court. I have a spotless driving record and a non existent criminal records yet I am constantly hassled by Birmingham Township cops. I've been pulled over and told my licence plate lights are too bright. I've been told that my exhaust is too loud. When I asked "how is it to loud" the cops response was "it just is". They sit in a gas station on 202 right outside of my work and routinely follow me for a few miles. And on a few occasion have even followed me home. I've had the Sargent tell me to "stay out of his township". These incidents typically don't result in tickets as I'm doing nothing illegal.
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This response is great. As if the cops won't lie in court. I have a spotless driving record and a non existent criminal records yet I am constantly hassled by Birmingham Township cops. I've been pulled over and told my licence plate lights are too bright. I've been told that my exhaust is too loud. When I asked "how is it to loud" the cops response was "it just is". They sit in a gas station on 202 right outside of my work and routinely follow me for a few miles. And on a few occasion have even followed me home. I've had the Sargent tell me to "stay out of his township". These incidents typically don't result in tickets as I'm doing nothing illegal.
what do u drive where they hassle u so much? (pic or modlist would help too)
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what do u drive where they hassle u so much? (pic or modlist would help too)
i guess some towns havent gotten used to imports yet...

remember in erie like 8 or 9 years ago when people started putting N1's on there cars and they all got pulled over for awhile till they finally learned they were legal.
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i guess some towns havent gotten used to imports yet...

remember in erie like 8 or 9 years ago when people started putting N1's on there cars and they all got pulled over for awhile till they finally learned they were legal.
no.. they are used to them here.. its the amount of kids that came here and started killing themselves and other people racing to and from school that has the police bent out of shape.

and to Bam.. I am guessing it would be an Evo.. hence the name Evolved.. Kinda goin out on a limb there
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3. Blacked our Dodge Charger (more and more everyday)

4. Dodge Intrepids

5. Dodge Magnums

6. The obvious Crown Vics.

7. Ford Taurus

8. Black Dodge Durango

9. White Dodge Durango

10. Ford Explorer

11. Chevy Silverado

12. Ford Expedition

13. White Dodge Ram 1500 - seen mostly between West Chester and Thorndale.

14. Harley Davidson Motorcycle - seen in Parkesburg.


Like I said anymore just let me know, we'll keep it going.
you do realize the cars you listed are like 70% of the cars on the road....maybe someone just needs to lay off the pot and not be so paranoid.
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you do realize the cars you listed are like 70% of the cars on the road....maybe someone just needs to lay off the pot and not be so paranoid.
Hahaha. That was pretty good.
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I could be wrong, but in the case of the Yellow Type-R, if the officer provokes you to race or something of that sort, I believe that is entrapment. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered hearing that. But yeah, I was having some trouble with the police in my town. I'm usually really good at talking my way out of tickets, except they found a solution - a female cop would pull me over all the time - no talking my way outta that one, ha. There was also a blacked out Dodge Durango that would follow me in my town, that finally stopped once i talked to one of the cops i knew from back in high school.

yes it is entrapment, but they still do it.


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we weren't doing anything illegal but if anyone knows the cops in this area in particular, they have nothing better to do but harass kids with cars. my car is completely stock and my exhaust isn't that loud and i get pulled over for the dumbest stuff for no reason.

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you do realize the cars you listed are like 70% of the cars on the road....maybe someone just needs to lay off the pot and not be so paranoid.
it isn't being paranoid, its warning those out there that actually do act like a dumb ass. and 70% of these cars aren't on the road.

there is only ONE YELLOW TYPE R in exton. and the rest of the cars are completely blacked out with tint at like 4% they are VERY easy to spot.

didn't anyone ever say if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all. just because you may smoke pot doesn't mean everyone else in the world does. some people just like being honest and able to warn people.

what happened last night with all my friends being pulled over was complete and total bs. this is what we're doing to take our stand.

how would you like it if you sat there and watched your car get towed because the cop told you that your insurance was out of date when it wasn't and didn't even give you the time of day/time to say anything about it to prove that it was up to date.. or if you were told you did a burn out but nobody saw it and you slammed on your brakes to not hit a deer.

so again its just to let people in MY area know, because most don't...and 90% of everyone on this site has a loud car and or speeds.
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there is only ONE YELLOW TYPE R in exton. and the rest of the cars are completely blacked out with tint at like 4% they are VERY easy to spot.

didn't anyone ever say if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all. just because you may smoke pot doesn't mean everyone else in the world does. some people just like being honest and able to warn people.
yeah thats why i didnt highlight the type r.....did you ever stop to think that the other cars that are "blacked" out are just state registered vehicles and NOT police?...heres a thought, they might just be people who live in the area with a blacked out car?...i didnt think it was to uncommon to see one.

police don't roll around in 30 different kinds of undercover cars just to catch you and your friends "not speeding or doing anything wrong"
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you do realize the cars you listed are like 70% of the cars on the road....maybe someone just needs to lay off the pot and not be so paranoid.

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i dont care who the **** tries to pull me over cause unless they are in a standard police uniform, standard police car or undercover with lots of lights if not and have municipal plates, then im not pulling over. if they are real cops they will call for back up which is a real cop car or clear undercover then i will.

someone tried that **** with strobes and a loud speaker on thier stock crown vic at night, and didnt have a uniform on. i kept goin the speed limit then pulled into a gas station and they never followed me in, **** that. if i wasnt on empty i woulda followed their ass and got them for impersenating an officer.

but entrapment is entrapment and illegal actions are illegal actions, it all comes down to not to do, or put stupid **** in or on ur car that will attract the police to pull u over, quite simple. if they're just bored then thats another story
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