Why do people think I'm trying to commit suicide? *PIX*

[Racersky]

I'm just curious as to why people that I know thinks i was trying to commit suicide when I had a little accident at an INDOOR GO-karting place in Delaware where I slipped and slit my wrist by accident.

If you see this would you assume that I attempted to commit suicide? I kept wondering why sometimes that came thought came to mind when they see a cut like this.

[tmrepp]

Ninja killin himself...no bueno

[99SL2_Modder]

I get the same thing when people look at my wrist.

Neither mine, nor yours, looks anything like a "suicide attempt"...or what I call "give me attention" marks.

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder

Neither mine, nor yours, looks anything like a "suicide attempt"...or what I call "give me attention" marks.

a) you're an asshole for the second part of this comment

and

b) you're 100% incorrect. Between the muscles and tendons in that section of the arm you're more than likely NOT going to have a straight cut from the base of your wrist up your forearm

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

a) you're an asshole for the second part of this comment

and

b) you're 100% incorrect. Between the muscles and tendons in that section of the arm you're more than likely NOT going to have a straight cut from the base of your wrist up your forearm

all i got to say is i agree

[dragonfly2k3]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

all i got to say is i agree

I agree with part B. If you guys seriously think that some kids dont nick themselves up to get attention you might be retarded.

[supraghost]

Originally Posted by dragonfly2k3

I agree with part B. If you guys seriously think that some kids dont nick themselves up to get attention you might be retarded.

true, but i dont think "give me attention marks" is an apprpriate way to describe them. Their issues are much deeper and classifying them in that way is ignorant to the real situation

[omgjacki]

Jerry, we all know you're unhappy, but suicide is not the answer.

[ITSTOCK]

Give me attention marks about sums it up.


As to your cut, it's pretty noticeable, and it's on your wrist. If you don't get cut (like me) every day working, I could see how someone would ASSUME that you tried getting attention.

But you already know this, so WTF is the point? Were you really just trying to show off that sissy little cut?

[Scapegoat]

its not attention whoring... and yes, it is a cry for help... and no, "true attention whores" do not attempt to commit suicide. people that need to see a professional attempt suicide.

What selfish is people like you so wrapped up in themselves that they truly believe that the person killing themselves owes something to YOU not to kill themselves. Most people that finally do end their life are mentally unstable and are thinking about YOU. They are thinking about everything in their life that is ****ed up, or perceived to be ****ed up.

You can't condemn someone that may not actually have proper control over their thoughts or actions. Some people are so far gone that even severe medication cannot help. And a lot of the time, people that are driven to suicide are that far gone... and are not able to make the changes they need to make in order to get better, or get out of their funk.

Those that attempt suicide usually have one of those moments of clarity as they're laying their dying and move on to get help, either on their own or forcibly.

I'm sorry your friend killed himself, and I'm sorry you're bitter about it... I would be too, and I'd probably feel exactly the same way as you about this subject if someone I knew closely killed themselves. But his actions and your feelings are not something that need be inflicted onto everyone w/ depression and every that contemplates and everyone that attempts and everyone that succeeds in suicide.

You go talk to a professional about suicide and you'll understand how you're incorrect. I've heard enough about the subject and about mental illness in general in the past 2 years to have some "correct" (ie: text book) descriptions and examples these things... and I'm not talking about psych 101... i'm not talking about a class or two to meet graduation requirements at a community college...

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

its not attention whoring... and yes, it is a cry for help... and no, "true attention whores" do not attempt to commit suicide. people that need to see a professional attempt suicide.

Wait, so it IS a cry for help, but they aren't trying to get attention? How exactly does that work????

What selfish is people like you so wrapped up in themselves that they truly believe that the person killing themselves owes something to YOU not to kill themselves. Most people that finally do end their life are mentally unstable and are thinking about YOU. They are thinking about everything in their life that is ****ed up, or perceived to be ****ed up.

OWE something to ME? It's not about me, it's about everyone and everything else that is effected by the morons cowardly act. Like I said, everyone gets depressed, stop crying about it.

You can't condemn someone that may not actually have proper control over their thoughts or actions. Some people are so far gone that even severe medication cannot help. And a lot of the time, people that are driven to suicide are that far gone... and are not able to make the changes they need to make in order to get better, or get out of their funk.

yea, like the 14 year old kid in this thread that had life so bad. Give me a break.

Those that attempt suicide usually have one of those moments of clarity as they're laying their dying and move on to get help, either on their own or forcibly.

They didn't really want to kill themselves if they have time to think about it WHILE dying. That's just a retarded argument. There is no trying. You either kill yourself, or you don't.

I'm sorry your friend killed himself, and I'm sorry you're bitter about it... I would be too, and I'd probably feel exactly the same way as you about this subject if someone I knew closely killed themselves. But his actions and your feelings are not something that need be inflicted onto everyone w/ depression and every that contemplates and everyone that attempts and everyone that succeeds in suicide.

I'm not bitter, I just think it's retarded. He had a little brother that idolized him, probably the toughest part to the entire thing. It was a selfish act, again, that simple.

So my actions and feelings don't need to be inflicted, but I have to listen to people cry about how bad their lives are, or about how they tried to off themselves??? That's a double standard if I've ever heard one! I'm sitting here stating, "WAKE THE **** UP YOU MORON! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU KILL YOURSELF!??!?!", while you are sadly saying, "Well, you can kill yourself. I understand how deep your pain goes." DAMN!

You go talk to a professional about suicide and you'll understand how you're incorrect. I've heard enough about the subject and about mental illness in general in the past 2 years to have some "correct" (ie: text book) descriptions and examples these things... and I'm not talking about psych 101... i'm not talking about a class or two to meet graduation requirements at a community college...

Open up your text book and read about suicide attempts. Wait a second, you already stated this....

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

its not attention whoring... and yes, it is a cry for help... and no, "true attention whores" do not attempt to commit suicide. people that need to see a professional attempt suicide.

So you either get it or you're confused. I sure as hell can't understand.

[omgjacki]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Wait, so it IS a cry for help, but they aren't trying to get attention? How exactly does that work????

I would just like to comment on this line...

So pretty much, if I ask for help on my homework, I'm looking for attention? Only this is subject is on a much larger scale. Needing help, and just seeking attention are two totally different things. I don't see where you got that there were alike. There are people that seriously want to be helped, and there are people just just want others around all the time, that just want to be the center of attention. Two different things, man.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by omgjacki

I would just like to comment on this line...

So pretty much, if I ask for help on my homework, I'm looking for attention? Only this is subject is on a much larger scale. Needing help, and just seeking attention are two totally different things. I don't see where you got that there were alike. There are people that seriously want to be helped, and there are people just just want others around all the time, that just want to be the center of attention. Two different things, man.

You are misunderstanding the correlation.

Someone who attempts suicide is doing so as a CRY for help, aka they WANT attention.

Now, if that person ASKED for help instead of attempting suicide (as MILLIONS of people who seek psychiatric help do each year), you would have a perfect match to ASKING for help on homework. Likewise, if you tossed your books at your teacher and throw a hissy fit, you would be CRYING for help. I hope that clears up your understanding.

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by omgjacki

I would just like to comment on this line...

So pretty much, if I ask for help on my homework, I'm looking for attention? Only this is subject is on a much larger scale. Needing help, and just seeking attention are two totally different things. I don't see where you got that there were alike. There are people that seriously want to be helped, and there are people just just want others around all the time, that just want to be the center of attention. Two different things, man.

very good comparison

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

You are misunderstanding the correlation.

Someone who attempts suicide is doing so as a CRY for help, aka they WANT attention.

Now, if that person ASKED for help instead of attempting suicide (as MILLIONS of people who seek psychiatric help do each year), you would have a perfect match to ASKING for help on homework. Likewise, if you tossed your books at your teacher and through a hissy fit, you would be CRYING for help. I hope that clears up your understanding.

dude that makes no sense



why didnt troll lock this he was just viewing the thread not that long ago

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

You are misunderstanding the correlation.

Someone who attempts suicide is doing so as a CRY for help, aka they WANT attention.

Now, if that person ASKED for help instead of attempting suicide (as MILLIONS of people who seek psychiatric help do each year), you would have a perfect match to ASKING for help on homework. Likewise, if you tossed your books at your teacher and throw a hissy fit, you would be CRYING for help. I hope that clears up your understanding.

hahahahaha...

wow...

people don't need to verbally ASK for help... actions speak louder than words my dear...

god, I love how you generalize... your points make no sense...

You're generalizing millions of people, and you're generalizing suicidal people, and you're generalizing the ENTIRE field of psychiatric medicine in ONE thread...

here: http://www.coping.org/grief/stages.htm#Anger%A0

you're obviously still in this stage of grief in dealing with the suicide of your friend.

[[sr20]sean]

can a mod close this thread before i get banned for yelling at ITSTOCK

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

can a mod close this thread before i get banned for yelling at ITSTOCK

Oh no, don't yell at me! It might make me upset and I'll have go to slit my wrist!

What is suicide?

Unsuccessful suicidal gestures, thoughts, or threats are often a:

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Cry for help to get people to attend to the problems which you are currently experiencing.
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Manipulative action to keep others from changing their styles of interacting with you.
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Sign of the severe depression and repressed anger that you are experiencing.
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Habit you develop early on which has had a great deal of success in getting you attention.
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Mask to hide behind to scare people away from getting too close or attached to you.
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Desire to have others treating you the way you have been treated in the past with aloofness, distance, and coldness.
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Way to test other people's loyalty, sincerity, interest, caring, love, and concern for you.
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Way by which you exercise control over others.

If you are successful in committing suicide, you will have:

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Demonstrated that you are so lost in your pain, confusion and suffering that you have never given any consideration to the hurt and emotionally scars you will leave on the people you leave behind.
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Demonstrated that you were exhausted from trying to pull your life together or were unwilling to accept your life the way it really was rather than the way you believe it should or ought to be.
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Possibly performed an action which is an enormous "get back'' or act of revenge which will no doubt leave your survivors with intense guilt, self-doubt, anger, bitterness, rage, and emotional trauma.
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Executed a useless act which terminates your life in that one moment of despair when in fact your future potential holds out hope for years of coping successfully with life as it really is rather than how you think it ought to be
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Succumbed to the ultimate "cop out'' from having to work hard to gain a sense of personal mastery and contentment in your life.
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Performed an action with no redeeming social merits or benefits.
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Performed your final effort to control people in your life.

http://www.coping.org/control/suicide.htm

I agree with the above. It's funny, they all fall under the topic of attention whoring!

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Oh no, don't yell at me! It might make me upset and I'll have go to slit my wrist!



http://www.coping.org/control/suicide.htm

I agree with the above. It's funny, they all fall under the topic of attention whoring!

shut your F*CKING MOUTH you ignorant f*cking asshole

[ITSTOCK]

I'm sorry, did they not fall under the topic of wanting attention? I guess a couple of them might not have been for attention alone, but the final outcome of the reasoning still resulted in the attention.

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

I'm sorry, did they not fall under the topic of wanting attention? I guess a couple of them might not have been for attention alone, but the final outcome of the reasoning still resulted in the attention.

you can make an attempt at suicide and nobody will ever know...

so complete utter bull sh*t