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driftingeric2k4 · 10-18-2006, 12:56 PM

Hey guys, I have been looking all over the net for a USDM WRX, prefereably STi motor to swap into my brothers 00 Impreza 2.5RS. Alls that I am finding is the JDM ones, which will not pass inspection in NYS unless the car is retitled as a collector or kit car, which we are not going to be doing. Any sites that sell USDM motors that will swap into it. Also, anyone know about how much this will set us back for installation at a dealership, either in dollars or man-hours. We can get a quote from the dealership, so I am more interested in legitimate sites that sell USDM engines.

Thanks,
-Eric

CHAOS · 10-18-2006, 12:59 PM

i think gruppe-s.com has US engines... and paying for a swap at a dealership is going to be REALLY REALLY expensive... youre better off going to a shop that knows what theyre doing... i know Xotic Motorsports does them.. they are one of our vendors here.

HuffRex · 10-18-2006, 01:25 PM

You could always purchase a STi shortblock from Turbo Tek Tuning and find a set of wrx heads and varies other items (power steering, alternator...etc) and you would be set to go. Andy from Xotic Motorsports as done many of these kind of setups.

**TROLL** · 10-18-2006, 01:30 PM

and as far as i know you can pass inspection with a jdm motor... they have obd2 so you really dont need to label the car differently at all. it seems that some states pass and some dont though, depending on how strict they are and what things they look for since the jdm motors do communicate slightly differently with the inspection.

driftingeric2k4 · 10-18-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TROLL

and as far as i know you can pass inspection with a jdm motor... they have obd2 so you really dont need to label the car differently at all. it seems that some states pass and some dont though, depending on how strict they are and what things they look for since the jdm motors do communicate slightly differently with the inspection.

We just verified with the dealer that it would most likely not pass NYS inspection due to the changes they made in the last two years. He did say that he wasn't 100% sure, but my mother is paying for his swap, so she will not go for a "maybe".

Renegade_ · 10-18-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TROLL

and as far as i know you can pass inspection with a jdm motor... they have obd2 so you really dont need to label the car differently at all.

That depends on the year of motor you are buying. Japan's international OBDI goes for a bit longer than the US OBDI did. The US switched over to OBDII in 96 but the v5 WRX motor that I have been looking at for a while is still international OBDI.

For example, a v7 motor can pass inspection, but a v6 and below cannot. I know a person who passed with a v7 in NY, so if you get v7/8, you shouldn't have a problem

teh DIRT · 10-18-2006, 02:00 PM

hey pm me. i have some info for you.

Honest_Bob · 10-18-2006, 02:21 PM

You could try and contact Area 1320. They may be able to help you out. They have done quite a few wrx to RS swaps.

www.area1320.com

teh DIRT · 10-18-2006, 02:23 PM

or ECS. they rock also.

http://eastcoastswappers.com/index-3.html

driftingeric2k4 · 10-18-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by teh DIRT

or ECS. they rock also.

http://eastcoastswappers.com/index-3.html

This is the place he was looking at. Good to see someone else has heard of them. We would have to truck it to MA from upstate NY, but I think he will get a better job done there than at a Subaru dealer.

D Money · 10-18-2006, 02:23 PM

JDM v8 STI RA spec C motor>USDM sti motor

Unless! You go with a built USDM bottom with v8 heads and Jun 272's!

and....

Gruppe-s has everything you need. Andy at Xotic is the man you will want to see for a swap/build up.

RyanG · 10-18-2006, 09:13 PM

I have access to an 02 with 22k miles on it. $5800 installed.
and this will pass inspection

dancemf666 · 10-19-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AREA1320

I have access to an 02 with 22k miles on it. $5800 installed.
and this will pass inspection

How much you guys charge for a STi swap into a wrx?

IMPREZvWRX · 10-18-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by driftingeric2k4

...Also, anyone know about how much this will set us back for installation at a dealership, either in dollars or man-hours. We can get a quote from the dealership, so I am more interested in legitimate sites that sell USDM engines.

Thanks,
-Eric

Heh...I couldn't imagine a dealership taking on this kind of project, since there's a lot of frankensteining and wiring involved. At any rate, I'm sure it'll go smoothly for you.

sesolcSTI · 10-18-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by IMPREZvWRX

Heh...I couldn't imagine a dealership taking on this kind of project, since there's a lot of frankensteining and wiring involved. At any rate, I'm sure it'll go smoothly for you.

I agree, im thinkin there is no way in hell that a dealership would even attempt something like this! Way too much to be liable for. Good luck!

4g4d4u · 10-18-2006, 09:33 PM

how did you trick your mother into paying for this swap? all ive been thinking about lately is how much i want this!!!

teh DIRT · 10-19-2006, 12:55 AM

youd be suprised. dealerships do this quite often.

4g4d4u · 10-19-2006, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by teh DIRT

youd be suprised. dealerships do this quite often.

they probably have the wiring diagrams for both cars and the resources to do it correctly, but they dont specialize in it and im not sure if i would trust a dealership to put an engine that requires an extensive amount of wiring in a car when that honda dealership couldnt even put an rsx wing on facing the right way.

012.5RS · 10-19-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 4g4d4u

they probably have the wiring diagrams for both cars and the resources to do it correctly, but they dont specialize in it and im not sure if i would trust a dealership to put an engine that requires an extensive amount of wiring in a car when that honda dealership couldnt even put an rsx wing on facing the right way.

but that was a honda dealership, so that explains it right there.

ScoobyNubieToo! · 11-09-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by teh DIRT

youd be suprised. dealerships do this quite often.

Ha ha....I asked my Dealership how much it would cost if I had them swap in an STI shortblock when mine goes. They told me it can't be done without swapping over the ECU, wiring harness blah, blah blah. I once again reiterated that I said shortblock and he went and asked the SUbaru tech. He came back and told me "No it can't be done" I told him that was BS and he said well he's been working on Subarus for 17 years. I said I don't care how long he's been working on Subarus, it can be done and I have met quite a few people who have had it done. He then told me the tech said "Tell'em to just buy an STI. I reminded them that if Subaru ever comes out with an STI wagon I will buy it!

10-18-2006, 12:56 PM	#1
driftingeric2k4 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, NY Member #2026 My Ride: 2000 Ford Mustang GT/C iTrader: (0)	USDM WRX/STi motors? Hey guys, I have been looking all over the net for a USDM WRX, prefereably STi motor to swap into my brothers 00 Impreza 2.5RS. Alls that I am finding is the JDM ones, which will not pass inspection in NYS unless the car is retitled as a collector or kit car, which we are not going to be doing. Any sites that sell USDM motors that will swap into it. Also, anyone know about how much this will set us back for installation at a dealership, either in dollars or man-hours. We can get a quote from the dealership, so I am more interested in legitimate sites that sell USDM engines. Thanks, -Eric

10-18-2006, 01:25 PM	#3
HuffRex Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Stratford, NJ Member #757 My Ride: 2004 WRX/2002 P/T Cruiser iTrader: (1)	You could always purchase a STi shortblock from Turbo Tek Tuning and find a set of wrx heads and varies other items (power steering, alternator...etc) and you would be set to go. Andy from Xotic Motorsports as done many of these kind of setups. __________________ Shooting for 550-600whp by Spring! R.I.P. Cdalerider

10-18-2006, 02:21 PM	#8
Honest_Bob TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #1179 My Ride: 05 WRX Wagon iTrader: (2)	You could try and contact Area 1320. They may be able to help you out. They have done quite a few wrx to RS swaps. www.area1320.com __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	i think gruppe-s.com has US engines... and paying for a swap at a dealership is going to be REALLY REALLY expensive... youre better off going to a shop that knows what theyre doing... i know Xotic Motorsports does them.. they are one of our vendors here.

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4g4d4u Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: near a large shopping district Member #2559 My Ride: 1990 honda civic iTrader: (1)	how did you trick your mother into paying for this swap? all ive been thinking about lately is how much i want this!!!