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Old 10-06-2011, 10:21 AM   #1
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Occupy Wall Street

I think they are a bunch of liberal idiot hippy kids making demands that are contradicted by their other demands.

here is some background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street

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would you prefer I use their website for an unbiased opinion?
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omg shut up!!! whiny, annoying people who want pity.
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i think it's funny they call themselves the 99% group but they are funded by one of the wealthiest people in america in the 1% hahaha.
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i think it's funny they call themselves the 99% group but they are funded by one of the wealthiest people in america in the 1% hahaha.
I think its refreshing that one person from the top 1% is supporting 99% of this Countries people as apposed to just himself and his Billionaire Friends.
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I think its refreshing that one person from the top 1% is supporting 99% of this Countries people as apposed to just himself and his Billionaire Friends.
It's refreshing he is doing that, but on the flipside hypocritical for them to take his funds. I'm not a fan of their progressiveness and desire for a larger government.
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its pissing me off. i work on broad st. in philly and all ive herd is cops and choppers all day.
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its pissing me off. i work on broad st. in philly and all ive herd is cops and choppers all day.
my dasd law firm is in the stock exchange building on market and he said it is completely ridiculous.
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Right now I think they look fairly idiotic in the media but fully support most of their views and the inspiration for it all as posted below -

"The participants of the event are mainly protesting against social and economic inequality, corporate greed, and the influence of corporate money and lobbyists on government

My biggest concern is in Bold.
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Right now I think they look fairly idiotic in the media but fully support most of their views and the inspiration for it all as posted below.
My biggest concern is in Bold.

they are an ignorant group of socialist ****s with a sense of entitlement. Basically they are saying "we want everything and we want YOU to pay for it, and since we arent getting what we want were going to sit on this sidewalk and stomp our feet until you give us what we want".

free college education?!? thats a ****ing terrible idea. An open border policy?!? are you ****ing kidding me! Even YOU can not agree with these tools... can you?
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My biggest concern is in Bold.

they are an ignorant group of socialist ****s with a sense of entitlement. Basically they are saying "we want everything and we want YOU to pay for it, and since we arent getting what we want were going to sit on this sidewalk and stomp our feet until you give us what we want".

free college education?!? thats a ****ing terrible idea. An open border policy?!? are you ****ing kidding me! Even YOU can not agree with these tools... can you?
Yea, to a point I agree with you, they are a bunch of people who are clearly not choosing to work and bitching and moaning that they want the world handed to them on a silver platter. Here's an idea, go apply for jobs, go to interview's and make money and live your life like EVERYONE else is in this world. Do I agree that the top %1 shouldn't get $234 million bonuses on a quarterly basis, of course I do, that's just absurd, and it is part of the problem. But guess what, you sitting outside their office (where they can't hear you b/c they are 60 stories up) chanting isn't going to change anything.

Free College education, really? More Affordable college education I can agree with, but free? no, not happening.

Open Border Policy? fu*k no! If anything we should CLOSE the border's and guard them better with our military!

Also, I'm surprised this hasn't turned violent yet... if it were to, I'd say anyone with half a brain should just stay away and let these people who don't benefit society anyway, kill each other off. This world is too full of the failure's within the human race, lack of intelligence is killing off our specie's, sadly though, not quick enough.

I'm the one who'd sit out side and protest that we need complete extinction of the human race (however is the easiest method, probably nuclear explosions at the right size detonated precisely around the world) so we can start over from the beginning and do it right this time.

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My biggest concern is in Bold.

they are an ignorant group of socialist ****s with a sense of entitlement. Basically they are saying "we want everything and we want YOU to pay for it, and since we arent getting what we want were going to sit on this sidewalk and stomp our feet until you give us what we want".

free college education?!? thats a ****ing terrible idea. An open border policy?!? are you ****ing kidding me! Even YOU can not agree with these tools... can you?
Its far from Socialist if you feel that your tax dollars should go towards making the mass majority of the people in this Country lives better. Every person at these rallies pays tax in one way or another (state / federal). The sense of entitlement you speak of comes from this sole fact!

I do not agree with a free college education or an open border policy, those views are pushing it....

-GE paid zero tax last year do to loop holes, are making record profits, and are still sending 150,000 jobs to china by years end.

-Big Oil receives many tax discounts, has our tax dollars being used to protect their product (war in middle east), and are profiting more then EVER in the last ten years. Why are we paying 3-4 dollars a gallon still?

-Wall street put us into a full blown recession and our tax dollars bailed them out.

Our tax dollars are being used to make the already rich lives better, these protesters (from what I got from it) want that to shift and start benefiting the mass majority of this Country.
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Its far from Socialist if you feel that your tax dollars should go towards making the mass majority of the people in this Country lives better. Every person at these rallies pays tax in one way or another (state / federal). The sense of entitlement you speak of comes from this sole fact!

Our tax dollars are being used to make the already rich lives better, these protesters (from what I got from it) want that to shift and start benefiting the mass majority of this Country.
I dont think they actually give a **** about the majority, just themselves. Examples of their arguments:

(Female) "I am a college senior with $40K of debt. There are no jobs in my field [LOOK IN OTHER FIELDS!!!!!!]. My toughest decision now is whether to sell drugs or my body. I am the 99 percent." ....What a joke.
Example: (Male) “I’d like forgiveness of debt, both student and mortgages, and the retraction of law that says a corporation has the same rights as a person.”


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-GE paid zero tax last year do to loop holes, are making record profits, and are still sending 150,000 jobs to china by years end.

-Big Oil receives many tax discounts, has our tax dollars being used to protect their product (war in middle east), and are profiting more then EVER in the last ten years. Why are we paying 3-4 dollars a gallon still?

-Wall street put us into a full blown recession and our tax dollars bailed them out.

Our tax dollars are being used to make the already rich lives better, these protesters (from what I got from it) want that to shift and start benefiting the mass majority of this Country.
Do some research, a LOT of these kids say they are artists or have Fine Arts degrees - AND LIVE ON social security because THEY chose terrible carreres and majors. Where were these jackasses when wall street was doing well? Probably in college smoking pot, sitting in circles playing drums and singing koombaya... getting their fine arts degrees (great ****ing investment retard, and you wonder why you cant find a job that pays enough to get you out of debt)

one of my biggest issues is that I fall in the same age demo. as most of these kids and I fear I am going to get grouped in with them and their assanine way of thinking. I unlike these jerkoffs am not going to be manipulated by michael moore into being one of his useful idiots fighting the good fight to destroy capitalism.

Entitlement is going to destroy our country. NO we are NOT going to forgive your debts, if we do im moving to canada.
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I dont think they actually give a **** about the majority, just themselves.
Regardless of whether or not their demands are selfish (some may be, some not) the demands if implemented would benefit the mass majority including you.

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(Female) "I am a college senior with $40K of debt. There are no jobs in my field [LOOK IN OTHER FIELDS!!!!!!].My toughest decision now is whether to sell drugs or my body. I am the 99 percent." ....What a joke.

Example: (Male) “I’d like forgiveness of debt, both student and mortgages, and the retraction of law that says a corporation has the same rights as a person.”
The female is unfortunate, The Male almost has a point.. His, yours, my Tax dollars were used to bail out the banks that gave out those Loans, in a sense this was "forgiveness" (for the already rich)... I'm sure the male wants to know were his bail out is and why "forgiveness" is only being given to the very rich (don't say because they create jobs unless you mean in China)

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Do some research, a LOT of these kids say they are artists or have Fine Arts degrees - AND LIVE ON social security because THEY chose terrible carreres and majors. Where were these jackasses when wall street was doing well? Probably in college smoking pot, sitting in circles playing drums and singing koombaya... getting their fine arts degrees (great ****ing investment retard, and you wonder why you cant find a job that pays enough to get you out of debt)
Fair enough, but where was wall street when these kids were in College? O yeah, they were ruining the American economy and making THEMSELVES very rich in the process.. Some how you found a way to blame the kid who can't find a job in the rubble Wall Street left behind

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one of my biggest issues is that I fall in the same age demo. as most of these kids and I fear I am going to get grouped in with them and their assanine way of thinking. I unlike these jerkoffs am not going to be manipulated by michael moore into being one of his useful idiots fighting the good fight to destroy capitalism.
Don't worry, most of this world isn't ignorant enough to group people together based on what they see and hear from a few people within an age group, race, gender, etc.

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Entitlement is going to destroy our country. NO we are NOT going to forgive your debts, if we do im moving to canada.
Its almost like you understand that a European style government can be better in ways (Canada). Some may even say its a Socialist Country with its free health care, and cheaper prescription drugs due to Government not allowing Big business to drain its citizens. Canada's Economy is also picking up rather then sitting at idle (like ours).

I think what you meant to say is your going to move to Somalia where the Government does nothing and you'll be FREE!!
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I think its refreshing that one person from the top 1% is supporting 99% of this Countries people as apposed to just himself and his Billionaire Friends.
This is the same man that got Barry elected....

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Right now I think they look fairly idiotic in the media but fully support most of their views and the inspiration for it all as posted below -

"The participants of the event are mainly protesting against social and economic inequality, corporate greed, and the influence of corporate money and lobbyists on government

My biggest concern is in Bold.
Yet it sucks when money influences government. You thoughts Sir, contradict each other.
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I say self-centered liberals wanting the government to step in some more and further fubar things...

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eh id just protest the tax loopholes for the top 1% not much tax percentages. their greed is spawned from competition. honestly if two companies are making the same product

company A. becomes a good guy taking tax increases, exploits less loop holes, hires more people, de nationalizes their workforce etc. etc. will see their product/s be sold at a higher price, stock holders will sell because their worth will be lower and a snowball effect would happen until they collapse.

company B. does all the same **** as before and continues to sell their stuff at a standard low price. In turn they end up taking over company A's sales and becomes more rich, more stockholder growth etc etc

basically there arent enough people with disposable income in the 99% that really cares enough to buy something, for more money, from a company who sells a product more ethically. this greed everyone speaks of spawns from competition not conspiracy stories. {{IMO}}

i do not, in the end, disagree with the protest though. Just doubt it will have any effect.
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This is the only thing i support, our government is corrupt with money and just bad politicians.
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