Help me pick sticky tires (poll) - TriStateTuners.com :: Home of Tristate Auto Enthusiast

2point4DSM · 03-01-2006, 04:26 PM

I need sticky tires. I'm limited to 225-50-16 on my AWD DSM. I won't be able to heat up the tires before a hard launch so I'm really looking for a good sticky tire compound.

I've searched around a bit and narrowed it down to a few tires.

The first time I called TireRack the salesman wanted to sell me Bridgestone S-03s right off the bat. The second time I called a more knowledgeable person really took the time to explain how the BFGoodrich KDs were stickier than the KDW and KDW2s but would also recommend heat cycled Ecsta MXs. A call over to BFGoodrich confirmed the KD tires are stickier than the KDW and KDW2s.

On another forum I've heard great things about the Hankook R-S2.

I also heard great things about the Falken Azenis RT 615 tires from Antony. Considering they will be available in my size soon I'm anxious to figure out which tire I'm definitely going to go with.

Thanks in advance for your vote and insight.

sesolcSTI · 03-01-2006, 04:42 PM

RT-615's for the win! With all the success of the old Azenis, these are my pick for my next tires. Good luck!

**TROLL** · 03-01-2006, 04:53 PM

sticky tires for drag racing i assume? but you're awd so you dont actually need drag radials...
i think any of the summer tires listed above will be fine combined with awd... i know the kuhmos and azenis are both popular for autox

99SL2_Modder · 03-01-2006, 05:10 PM

The azeni's are the better choice here, but they're still not a great drag tire.

They're heavy, and they still get just as greasy as the old ones when hot, so you'd have to cool them between a few passes.

This is why they were a great tire for drifters, because of the greasiness that came after they got hot.

A lot of saturn guys use them for autox, because they can cool down between heats.

They will work, though.

adamkob32 · 03-01-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder

The azeni's are the better choice here, but they're still not a great drag tire.

They're heavy, and they still get just as greasy as the old ones when hot, so you'd have to cool them between a few passes.

This is why they were a great tire for drifters, because of the greasiness that came after they got hot.

A lot of saturn guys use them for autox, because they can cool down between heats.

They will work, though.

Well I am gonna have to give a shout for the Azenis here. The new RT-615's doo NOT have the same problems as the older RT-215's. I have already put them through 8 autocross runs right in a row with no fade near the end. And they are awesome right out of the box too. So that's my pick.

--Adam

99SL2_Modder · 03-01-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by adamkob32

Well I am gonna have to give a shout for the Azenis here. The new RT-615's doo NOT have the same problems as the older RT-215's. I have already put them through 8 autocross runs right in a row with no fade near the end. And they are awesome right out of the box too. So that's my pick.

--Adam

I could have sworn they still got greasy under a lot of stress.

They're still as heavy as the 215's, aren't they?

I musta read that writeup wrong on TSN.

adamkob32 · 03-01-2006, 06:40 PM

They are also a tad lighter then the 215's. I am almost positive they used more nylon belts then steel in the new ones. Only draw back for drag racing I see is the incredibly stiff sidewalls.

--Adam

2point4DSM · 03-01-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TROLL

sticky tires for drag racing i assume? but you're awd so you dont actually need drag radials...

I'm talking about just drag racing at this point. Btw, this is my friend's car which is currently running in the 10s.

Mike Rizzotti's AWD DSM.

And no, I don't want drag radials. My driveline isn't setup for it.

**TROLL** · 03-01-2006, 05:19 PM

ok ok well i was assuming you werent quite in the 10s yet and that these would be driven daily

**TROLL** · 03-01-2006, 05:22 PM

moving to suspension

D Money · 03-01-2006, 05:23 PM

I say the BF Goodrich KD's, they are mad loot but you cannot sacrafice money when it comes to performance. I run the Yokahama Prada Spec II's, I like them, I dont spin either. But then again you know me, I don't hit 10-11 sec 1/4 mile times.

2point4DSM · 03-01-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by subwrxkid

But then again you know me, I don't hit 10-11 sec 1/4 mile times.

I'm not there either. And I'm not going to claim my car will even be that fast. All I know is my car is out of control when I launch hard at 22psi. Considering I'm looking to run closer to 30psi this year I just want to be able to keep it straight and then see what happens.

BlackBulletTSi · 03-03-2006, 02:41 PM

Odd I've always heard of the Falkens being awesome. Do the new 625s not have a softer side wall anyway? SilverBullet had the falkens on his old saturn but that thing wasn't boosted

Jeffros Spec V · 03-03-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBulletTSi

Odd I've always heard of the Falkens being awesome. Do the new 625s not have a softer side wall anyway? SilverBullet had the falkens on his old saturn but that thing wasn't boosted

Falkens are awesome, just not for drag racing.

Currently I have Pilot Sport SP2's and they are sticky as hell. Throw that thing into a corner at any speed and watch it stick. Hopper used to have Khumo Supra MX's and those things hooked really nice.

Driven · 03-05-2006, 11:23 PM

To bring this back from the dead (of 2 days ago), I am in the same dilemna.

I want to stay away from the Azenis as I've seen how stiff the sidewall is. It seems to me like none of the tire manufacturers make a decent tire for drag racing unless you go with a DR.

I plan on going down in rim size to 16's (like Wil) and I am making power to run 10's, I just need to get it down. I would have no problems with a DR, except that the rules in the class I'm going to run in state no DR's on AWD cars.

2point4DSM · 03-06-2006, 09:16 AM

lol

Cabra · 03-06-2006, 10:30 AM

Out of the 4 you listed, I would choose the BFG KD's

However, you may want to consider Yokohama ADVAN AO32R's since you dont need an actual DR

A buddy of mine had these on his GTO and they were awesoome at the track, and since they are actually a road race tire they would be a good multi tasker for you.

They come in your size, and in hard and soft compounds.

Here's a PDF with full specs.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/AO32Rbltn.pdf

2point4DSM · 03-07-2006, 04:47 PM

I can't find the Advans in my size.

Also, looks like a tie btw the Falkens and the BFGs. Considering the Falkens are a lot less I'm going with the Falkens for now. And according to their website they say they are stickier than the BFGs. That is good enough for me.

Thanks to everyone that voted and put in their 2 cents.

Looks like they are available now but not sure when they will actually start shipping. Hopefully I'll be able to hit the track in the next couple weeks or so.

Gorilla Unit 33 · 03-07-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2point4DSM

Hopefully I'll be able to hit the track in the next couple weeks or so.

your cars running again i take it?

2point4DSM · 03-07-2006, 06:54 PM

It runs but it's not ready....

View Poll Results: Which sticky tires would your recommend for drag racing
Hankook R-S2	1	4.76%
Kuhmo Ecsta MX	3	14.29%
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD	8	38.10%
Falken Azenis RT-615	9	42.86%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

03-01-2006, 04:26 PM	#1
2point4DSM Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Member #505 My Ride: 08 Sienna Limited AWD, 07 John Deere riding mower, 03 Honda Pilot, 92 GSX iTrader: (0)	Help me pick sticky tires (poll) I need sticky tires. I'm limited to 225-50-16 on my AWD DSM. I won't be able to heat up the tires before a hard launch so I'm really looking for a good sticky tire compound. I've searched around a bit and narrowed it down to a few tires. The first time I called TireRack the salesman wanted to sell me Bridgestone S-03s right off the bat. The second time I called a more knowledgeable person really took the time to explain how the BFGoodrich KDs were stickier than the KDW and KDW2s but would also recommend heat cycled Ecsta MXs. A call over to BFGoodrich confirmed the KD tires are stickier than the KDW and KDW2s. On another forum I've heard great things about the Hankook R-S2. I also heard great things about the Falken Azenis RT 615 tires from Antony. Considering they will be available in my size soon I'm anxious to figure out which tire I'm definitely going to go with. Thanks in advance for your vote and insight. __________________ - Wil 08 Sienna, limited AWD w/ laser guided cruise control, FTMFW! Last edited by 2point4DSM; 03-01-2006 at 04:45 PM.

03-01-2006, 04:42 PM	#2
sesolcSTI Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jersey Member #40 My Ride: 2004 WRB WRX STi iTrader: (1)	RT-615's for the win! With all the success of the old Azenis, these are my pick for my next tires. Good luck! __________________ -2004 WRB WRX STi/ Cobb Stage 2/ 292awhp/304tq TST #40 / HP #009 / Blobeye Syndicate #99 GO PITTSBURGH!

03-01-2006, 06:40 PM	#7
adamkob32 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Barnesville, PA Member #911 My Ride: Anything With 4 Wheels iTrader: (0)	They are also a tad lighter then the 215's. I am almost positive they used more nylon belts then steel in the new ones. Only draw back for drag racing I see is the incredibly stiff sidewalls. --Adam __________________ 2002 Subaru WRX To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. XBL ID - Radical Knob "Drag racing is for fast cars, autocrossing is for fast drivers"

03-03-2006, 02:41 PM	#13
BlackBulletTSi Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: L~Town Member #224 My Ride: 99 Eclipse GSX iTrader: (3)	Odd I've always heard of the Falkens being awesome. Do the new 625s not have a softer side wall anyway? SilverBullet had the falkens on his old saturn but that thing wasn't boosted __________________ Check my music out at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Recently joined record label Strike Division, new tracks to come soon. New DJ community being built, To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. COMING SOON!!

03-05-2006, 11:23 PM	#15
Driven Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PA Member #336 iTrader: (0)	To bring this back from the dead (of 2 days ago), I am in the same dilemna. I want to stay away from the Azenis as I've seen how stiff the sidewall is. It seems to me like none of the tire manufacturers make a decent tire for drag racing unless you go with a DR. I plan on going down in rim size to 16's (like Wil) and I am making power to run 10's, I just need to get it down. I would have no problems with a DR, except that the rules in the class I'm going to run in state no DR's on AWD cars. __________________ 08 Evo X - Daily 95 Eclipse - 9.99 at 143 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-06-2006, 09:16 AM	#16
2point4DSM Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Member #505 My Ride: 08 Sienna Limited AWD, 07 John Deere riding mower, 03 Honda Pilot, 92 GSX iTrader: (0)	lol __________________ - Wil 08 Sienna, limited AWD w/ laser guided cruise control, FTMFW! Last edited by 2point4DSM; 03-07-2006 at 04:49 PM.

03-06-2006, 10:30 AM	#17
Cabra Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Member #1216 iTrader: (0)	Out of the 4 you listed, I would choose the BFG KD's However, you may want to consider Yokohama ADVAN AO32R's since you dont need an actual DR A buddy of mine had these on his GTO and they were awesoome at the track, and since they are actually a road race tire they would be a good multi tasker for you. They come in your size, and in hard and soft compounds. Here's a PDF with full specs. http://www.yokohamatire.com/pdf/AO32Rbltn.pdf __________________ 04 GTO torrid red/red a4 13.320 @ 104.27 MPH 1.967 60' To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.*

03-07-2006, 04:47 PM	#18
2point4DSM Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Member #505 My Ride: 08 Sienna Limited AWD, 07 John Deere riding mower, 03 Honda Pilot, 92 GSX iTrader: (0)	I can't find the Advans in my size. Also, looks like a tie btw the Falkens and the BFGs. Considering the Falkens are a lot less I'm going with the Falkens for now. And according to their website they say they are stickier than the BFGs. That is good enough for me. Thanks to everyone that voted and put in their 2 cents. Looks like they are available now but not sure when they will actually start shipping. Hopefully I'll be able to hit the track in the next couple weeks or so. __________________ - Wil 08 Sienna, limited AWD w/ laser guided cruise control, FTMFW!

03-07-2006, 06:54 PM	#20
2point4DSM Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Member #505 My Ride: 08 Sienna Limited AWD, 07 John Deere riding mower, 03 Honda Pilot, 92 GSX iTrader: (0)	It runs but it's not ready.... __________________ - Wil 08 Sienna, limited AWD w/ laser guided cruise control, FTMFW!

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