Few questions about K20 in a bubble

[dielan]

My friend told me a K20 swap into a 93 and up bubble is fairly easy with a few modifications. Just wondering if this is true because I wanna get back into Hondas.

[DC2.2GSR]

every honda swap is easy with only a few mods. K series swaps are no different. the biggest pain in the ass is removing the passenger side mount bracket and running the shift linkage into the cabin... the same exact things i had to do for my H swap. if you can operate a cut off wheel and a drill it's extremely easy. check out k20a.org for A LOT of info.

[dielan]

Is it worth it putting a k20 in a bubble?

[TurboGSR96]

Well money wise its never smart to put a $5000 engine into a $1500 car, but if it makes you happy do it.... I think for the money you could build a B to be just as powerful but to each his own.

[dielan]

I'm looking for all the advice I can get. I know some what about Hondas but I don't know a lot. So you think a B series motor would be the way to go?

[Yes SiR]

Originally Posted by dielan

I'm looking for all the advice I can get. I know some what about Hondas but I don't know a lot. So you think a B series motor would be the way to go?

Everybody is jumping on the K-series bandwagon.

For the money, I'd rather have a built b18. If it were me, I'd look into a LS/VTEC or CRVTEC.

[Foolinaround]

everyone forgets about H series swaps they still move

[dielan]

What I'm looking to do is get a bubble but I don't know what motor would be the best to get.

[sleeper15]

Originally Posted by dielan

What I'm looking to do is get a bubble but I don't know what motor would be the best to get.

well, here's a couple of suggestions

d-series turbo motor

b-series swap (what i got in my hatch)

h-series

k-series

the cheapest would be either a good d-series with a good turbo get, or if you look, a b18c1 (gsr motor).

k-series are still a little pricey, but, i've told myself whenever my b-series motor goes, i'm swappin in a k20.

but, my recomendation, just got with a b-series engine swap, for now.

[phillycivicsi]

k series arent all that expensive i sold one on here for 350 it was a k24z1orz3 dont remember but it was the k24 from the 7th gen accord

[dielan]

I'm not gonna be able to get a turbo anytime soon so for an all motor car b series would be the way to go?

[sleeper15]

Originally Posted by dielan

I'm not gonna be able to get a turbo anytime soon so for an all motor car b series would be the way to go?

yeah.

but, don't expect monster power.

but, it's a good start.

[Yes SiR]

Originally Posted by sleeper15

yeah.

but, don't expect monster power.

but, it's a good start.

Let's be honest, you can't expect "monster power" out of any honda motor. It is what it is.

You can build a really strong b-series; they're relatively simple to do, a good overall value and there is good aftermarket support.

[sleeper15]

Originally Posted by Yes SiR

Let's be honest, you can't expect "monster power" out of any honda motor. It is what it is.

You can build a really strong b-series; they're relatively simple to do, a good overall value and there is good aftermarket support.

if you have the money, you can make monster power out of any motor. getting it to the ground on the other hand,

but yes, b-series engine is a good start, plenty of aftermarket support, and are reliabe long as you take care of them

[dielan]

Sorry for all the questions guys I'm just trying to learn and I know you guys know what you're talking about. Should I go with a b16 or a b18 and would it be a direct swap or would I have to do some modifications? And also what kind of power can I expect?

[sleeper15]

Originally Posted by dielan

Sorry for all the questions guys I'm just trying to learn and I know you guys know what you're talking about. Should I go with a b16 or a b18 and would it be a direct swap or would I have to do some modifications? And also what kind of power can I expect?

i'd recomend the b18c1 or b18c5.

the b16 motors lack torque. well, all honda motors lack torque, but that one especially.

with the b18c1, you start out at about 170hp stock, with the b18c5, around 195hp stock.

with simple bolt ons, you should see around -185-215hp at the crank, not wheel horse power.

or, if you go with a non-vtec motor, like the b18a or b18b motors, you start around 130-140hp. but, those motors tend to like boost (aka turbo).

they got kits for any civic with any b-series motors, just got to go on google or other honda sites and do your research. best way to learn. and remeber, search functions on forums is a life saver

[phillycivicsi]

Originally Posted by dielan

Sorry for all the questions guys I'm just trying to learn and I know you guys know what you're talking about. Should I go with a b16 or a b18 and would it be a direct swap or would I have to do some modifications? And also what kind of power can I expect?

B16 a2with full bolt ons and tune should be 155-170 whp
B18 c1 with the same ur lookin at 160-175 whp
i could be wrong

Whats ur budget and how fast u wanna go

[sleeper15]

Originally Posted by phillycivicsi

B16 a2with full bolt ons and tune should be 155-170 whp
B18 c1 with the same ur lookin at 160-175 whp
i could be wrong

Whats ur budget and how fast u wanna go

sounds bout right for a streetable setup

by b18c1 in my black hatch hit 201whp, but couldn't hold an idle to save its life after you got off the gas.

i've seen some b16 motors hit 185+ whp, but again, not a really streetable powerband.

[dielan]

First I gotta get the car. Rite now I'm paying 100 every other week for my car so I don't really have money rite now. I just wanna know what I should do.

[sleeper15]

Originally Posted by dielan

First I gotta get the car. Rite now I'm paying 100 every other week for my car so I don't really have money rite now. I just wanna know what I should do.

well dude, if thats the case. save your money up. take things slow. no need to dump a **** ton of cash right into a car. especailly if it's your first time modding a car.

if you know you want to do a engine swap in your civic, then avoid doing any real engine mods to the stock motor thats in it, and maybe work on suspension and rims, maybe clean it up if it looks like crap, don't rice it out with ridcoulous body kits and neon lights.

but, take it slow and save your cash. don't go broke trying to mod your car.

by the way, got any pics of your civic?