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Black 05 WRX · 10-26-2005, 10:49 AM

IS this something to consider even with a stock turbo. If I dont have one how long should I let it set after driving. Normal driving? Hard Driving?

thanks

SexyDSM95 · 10-26-2005, 10:51 AM

If your turbo is oil cooled and not water cooled then yes it's something to consider. Most turbo timbers have automatic settings that account for your RPMS into the time it takes to cool down. I usually set mine for 30-45 seconds if I am driving to work and if I beat on him then I let the TT calculate the time itself.

Let me ask you this, do you realize the reason for a turbo timer?

MuddyREX · 10-26-2005, 11:43 AM

I bought a TT as the first mod for my WRX before realizing it was unnecessary. Don't waste your money on a TT for your wrx, the turbo will cool itself. Buy something worthwhile, like a bigger rear swaybar.

Black 05 WRX · 10-26-2005, 11:56 AM

Reason:The number one cause of turbo failure is oil "coking". Oil "coking" occurs when a turbocharger is not properly cooled down and the oil that normally lubricates the center cartridge heats up and forms solidified oil deposits.

SexyDSM95 · 10-26-2005, 11:57 AM

Coking....I am a n00b to that term? But yea that's the basic idea

Francesco · 10-26-2005, 01:18 PM

if you have a warranty and stock turbo, then its really not much to consider...

now if you have some investments under the hood, or you merely want a TT for piece of mind then get one...

You should be ok if you let your car sit idle for a few minutes before you turn it off...

sesolcSTI · 10-26-2005, 02:07 PM

I have one, but i agree that its semi-not needed. Rich from precision tuning (not the dyno place........precision tuning in brick,nj......very well known subaru experts) told me that you shouldnt need to let your turbo "relax" for more than 15-20sec even after hard driving, as the oil drains from the turbo very quickly. So you can just sit in your car for an extra 15 seconds and save some money. I def agree with the rear sway bar! Get some rear endlinks too, it stiffens up the WRX amazingly!

Little G · 10-26-2005, 04:32 PM

yeah i definatly needed one

BobErT- · 10-26-2005, 05:50 PM

My Turbo Timer is set for 1 minute, and i have no problem with it. I dont knwo why they just dont install them from the factory?

moorefire · 10-28-2005, 10:57 AM

because turbo timers on watercooled turbos are a waste of money

they're needed for non-watercooler turbos, but every poser with a turbo seems to think they need one

SexyDSM95 · 10-28-2005, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moorefire

because turbo timers on watercooled turbos are a waste of money

they're needed for non-watercooler turbos, but every poser with a turbo seems to think they need one

That's what I said! And from what I have seen before wrx's are oil cooled turbos and I believe the STi's are water cooled. Someone feel free to correct me though.

Francesco · 10-28-2005, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexyDSM95

That's what I said! And from what I have seen before wrx's are oil cooled turbos and I believe the STi's are water cooled. Someone feel free to correct me though.

im pretty sure all US spec WRX's are oiled cooled...I think an aftermarket company in Japan makes a water cooled kit, but its $$$

sisforsurfing · 10-28-2005, 02:26 PM

I've always read on the Subaru boards that all WRX turbos are water cooled... turbo timers are unnecessary.

alachua · 10-28-2005, 02:29 PM

Every turbo subaru is both oil and water cooled from the factory. This holds true on all the subaru specific IHI series turbos (usdm STi/JDM STi), and the stock mitsubishi turbo on the wrx/forester/legacy/baja.

Some aftermarket turbos, such as the FP Green, are oil cooled only, though they are sometimes offered with water cooling as an option.

-Cliff

PS: this is post 555 for me

BobErT- · 10-28-2005, 02:36 PM

Bet you never heard of alcohol cooled.. thats what mine is ;)... j/k j/k.. Im gonna buy a TT but i hope it dont void my warranty.

SexyDSM95 · 10-28-2005, 02:40 PM

It's pretty easy to check if you are oil or water cooled. So if you are unsure just check and if you are oil cooled I would highly recommend a turbo timer.

alachua · 10-28-2005, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobErT-

Bet you never heard of alcohol cooled.. thats what mine is ;)... j/k j/k.. Im gonna buy a TT but i hope it dont void my warranty.

I can't imagine how a TT would void your warranty, especially when most makers offer a direct plug in harness where you won't even have to cut any wires.

If you are going to get one, DON'T get the greddy...apparantly a fourth button would have caused the fall of civilization, thus, any action requires you to move your fingers like Les Claypool just to change the mode you are in.

-Cliff

BobErT- · 10-28-2005, 02:46 PM

I would go with what my '02 Wrx had, the Apexi TT, i liked it, never had no trobule with it.

SexyDSM95 · 10-28-2005, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alachua

If you are going to get one, DON'T get the greddy...apparantly a fourth button would have caused the fall of civilization, thus, any action requires you to move your fingers like Les Claypool just to change the mode you are in.

-Cliff

I am not sure if you are being facetious or not but I use to have a Greddy TT and it was awesome. If gave you an estimated 1/4 time along with a speedometer, etc. Only reason I got rid of it was because of how bulky it was.

BobErT- · 10-28-2005, 03:11 PM

I think with the Apexi TT alls you need to do, is just cut the security wire, and your good to go.

10-26-2005, 10:49 AM	#1
Black 05 WRX Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #959 iTrader: (0)	Turbo Timers IS this something to consider even with a stock turbo. If I dont have one how long should I let it set after driving. Normal driving? Hard Driving? thanks

10-26-2005, 11:43 AM	#3
MuddyREX Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perkasie, PA Member #82 My Ride: 02 Subaru WRX iTrader: (4)	I bought a TT as the first mod for my WRX before realizing it was unnecessary. Don't waste your money on a TT for your wrx, the turbo will cool itself. Buy something worthwhile, like a bigger rear swaybar. __________________ The original, since 1979. <---- 190,000 mile WRX - Gone To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-26-2005, 01:18 PM	#6
Francesco Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Jersey Member #540 iTrader: (0)	if you have a warranty and stock turbo, then its really not much to consider... now if you have some investments under the hood, or you merely want a TT for piece of mind then get one... You should be ok if you let your car sit idle for a few minutes before you turn it off... __________________ - Francesco To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-26-2005, 02:07 PM	#7
sesolcSTI Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jersey Member #40 My Ride: 2004 WRB WRX STi iTrader: (1)	I have one, but i agree that its semi-not needed. Rich from precision tuning (not the dyno place........precision tuning in brick,nj......very well known subaru experts) told me that you shouldnt need to let your turbo "relax" for more than 15-20sec even after hard driving, as the oil drains from the turbo very quickly. So you can just sit in your car for an extra 15 seconds and save some money. I def agree with the rear sway bar! Get some rear endlinks too, it stiffens up the WRX amazingly! __________________ -2004 WRB WRX STi/ Cobb Stage 2/ 292awhp/304tq TST #40 / HP #009 / Blobeye Syndicate #99 GO PITTSBURGH!

10-26-2005, 04:32 PM	#8
Little G Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mainline What !! Member #488 My Ride: 08 Mitsubishi Evo X iTrader: (0)	yeah i definatly needed one __________________ And Then What !!!!!!

10-26-2005, 10:51 AM	#2
SexyDSM95 Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Glenside, PA Member #188 iTrader: (1)	If your turbo is oil cooled and not water cooled then yes it's something to consider. Most turbo timbers have automatic settings that account for your RPMS into the time it takes to cool down. I usually set mine for 30-45 seconds if I am driving to work and if I beat on him then I let the TT calculate the time itself. Let me ask you this, do you realize the reason for a turbo timer?

10-26-2005, 11:56 AM	#4
Black 05 WRX Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #959 iTrader: (0)	Reason:The number one cause of turbo failure is oil "coking". Oil "coking" occurs when a turbocharger is not properly cooled down and the oil that normally lubricates the center cartridge heats up and forms solidified oil deposits.

10-26-2005, 11:57 AM	#5
SexyDSM95 Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Glenside, PA Member #188 iTrader: (1)	Coking....I am a n00b to that term? But yea that's the basic idea

10-28-2005, 10:57 AM	#10
moorefire Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: easton, pa Member #241 My Ride: MS13 - V35 iTrader: (0)	because turbo timers on watercooled turbos are a waste of money they're needed for non-watercooler turbos, but every poser with a turbo seems to think they need one __________________ -Will

10-28-2005, 02:26 PM	#13
sisforsurfing Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Member #267 My Ride: 2003 WRX wagon iTrader: (2)	I've always read on the Subaru boards that all WRX turbos are water cooled... turbo timers are unnecessary. __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.*

10-28-2005, 02:29 PM	#14
alachua Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Conshohocken, PA Member #4 My Ride: 14 Miata Club iTrader: (3)	Every turbo subaru is both oil and water cooled from the factory. This holds true on all the subaru specific IHI series turbos (usdm STi/JDM STi), and the stock mitsubishi turbo on the wrx/forester/legacy/baja. Some aftermarket turbos, such as the FP Green, are oil cooled only, though they are sometimes offered with water cooling as an option. -Cliff PS: this is post 555 for me __________________ "Cliff, I find going fast neither exciting, nor enjoyable, please stop. No, I don't want to do smokey burnouts or donuts!" - My Mom on her first ride in the miata

10-28-2005, 02:40 PM	#16
SexyDSM95 Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Glenside, PA Member #188 iTrader: (1)	It's pretty easy to check if you are oil or water cooled. So if you are unsure just check and if you are oil cooled I would highly recommend a turbo timer.

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