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Old 10-18-2006, 08:22 PM   #1
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412whp SAAB 9-5 ***Updated with engine specs and dyno sheet***
















412whp and 460 w lb-ft
It's running the same ECU it came from the factory with and can spin it's wheels in third, sometimes fourth.

God I wish it was mine.

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When I first started out building the monster, my intention was to build a streetable car with modest midrange power and be able use the car as a daily driver if needed......not a racecar. Could I have more horsepower??? Of course i could.....peak numbers over 6000 rpm do not excite me, area under the curve does. In fact, bringing the car to 7000 rpms with the stock valve train actually scares me a bit.
My next intention was to use as many stock saab parts as possible to find out just how far the stock setup would take me. Many ancillary components were changed, as well as the pistons and rods, but the rest of the motor was left relatively stock. the recipe is listed below:

engine B235R bored .040" over stuffed with JE pistons and crower rods. The crank, bearings, oil pump etc are all stock saab components. balance shafts and chains were left in place to maintain a nice smooth running mill.

head: stock T7 aero head with stock valves and springs with old T5 cams that I had in the basement. no work was done to this head.....hence my apprehension to bring the rpms over 7000. ARP head bolts used to hold the head in place.

fuelling: a walbro 255 fuel pump was installed in the stock assembly using the stock fuel lines and and stock fuel pressure regulator. Injectors are 630cc Siemens...used in favor of the RC engineering injectors that I purchased twice.

manifold/turbo/exhaust:stainless tubular manifold with swaintech coating. a top mounted a garret GT3076R with a Tial external wastegate(vented to the atmosphere) with a custom 3" stainless exhaust using a catco catalytic converter, magnaflow resonator and big magnaflow muffler to keep things quiet....until the wastegate opens of course. HKS recirculating dump valve. Big Big K&N filter in the wheel well...3" plumbing to turbo.

plugs: NGK BCPR7ES with traditional direct ignition cassette

intercooler:31"x12"x3" Yonaka motorsport with stainless plumbing.

clutch: SPEC stage 3+.......expensive but well worth the money

transmission is stock for now...LSD is on the shelf awaiting a new transmission

software: SQR custom tune

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Old 10-18-2006, 08:24 PM   #2
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it's ok, but it is still a saab
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:27 PM   #3
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it's ok, but it is still a saab
It's got about 450 hp at the crank and all you have to say is it's "still a SAAB."
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:41 PM   #4
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Thats alot of power going to the wheels that steer. Very cool car.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:43 PM   #5
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thats awsome, id never expect it if i saw that on the road. hes gonna be making money, lol
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:50 PM   #6
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holy ****, thats awsome
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:52 PM   #7
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It's got about 500 hp at the crank and all you have to say is it's "still a SAAB."
yeah, i really don't know what else to say besides i hope he doesn't spill his wendy's frosty in his key hole.
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:56 PM   #8
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it's ok, but it is still a saab

He has the same quote I would of gave you too, You have quoted the same towards other high HP cars!
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:00 PM   #9
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:00 PM   #10
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He has the same quote I would of gave you too, You have quoted the same towards other high HP cars!
Fair enough, I make no attempt to hide the fact that I'm biased toward saabs.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:11 PM   #11
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It's got about 500 hp at the crank and all you have to say is it's "still a SAAB."
When did FWD's start to loose 88hp in the transmition?

Does the transmition magically become harder to rotate because you added HP to the engine? 450hp at the crank. A little (and I mean a little) more hp is wasted in heat in the tranny, but you would still be spinning it up that fast on a stock dyno pull.

Not to take anything away from a awesome car with a ton of HP, it's just a pet pieve of mine when people way overestimate hp to the next highest 100hp mark. Carry on.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:15 PM   #12
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Why why why would they put a pancake cat on that car.
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Having worked at Willow Grove Jag/Saab/LR, I can tell you that Saabs are garbage. Talk about the most disconnected, awkward driving car you've ever driven combined with a weird interior. This is not an attack against FWD cars, but to be completely honest, I would never, ever consider a Saab - ever.
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Fixed for you, though saabs standard drivetrain loss is 15% and that's about 475 hp. What's crazy is that this is by no means the most wild SAAB ever. There are much crazier 9000's running around, pretending to be normal cars.

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Having worked at Willow Grove Jag/Saab/LR, I can tell you that Saabs are garbage. Talk about the most disconnected, awkward driving car you've ever driven combined with a weird interior. This is not an attack against FWD cars, but to be completely honest, I would never, ever consider a Saab - ever.
*blink* That's funny cause my 9-5 is one of the easiest and most communicative cars I've ever driven. And the interior is intuitive and easy to use, it's all the other cars out there that are wrong. :P
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:26 PM   #15
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I like Saabs and Volvos alot, great cars and can be very fast... great sleepers thats for sure, only thing that sucks is most of the aftermarket parts are $$$$$

Raven you ever see any videos of the light green Saab? It is crazy
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:39 PM   #16
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*blink* That's funny cause my 9-5 is one of the easiest and most communicative cars I've ever driven. And the interior is intuitive and easy to use, it's all the other cars out there that are wrong. :P


Agreed. I've driven plenty of other cars and i love the way my saab drives, handles, and everything. As for the interior i think it's great.

And to stay on topic that is an awesome project
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Eh, I dunno.....I'm not too impressed. Big horsepower on FWD never really did anything for me. Good for them though, looks like a clean project.
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:33 PM   #18
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RAVEN18940 i agree with you dont worry, my buddy has a white 9-5 aero that can take just about anything, and its the best thing in the world when we embarass people on the highway and the look of amazement on their faces hahaha, so it may be just a saab but it can still take half the people on this forum

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looks pretty nicely done to me... i wouldnt take on the project but thats not whats in question. i'm glad there are saab fanatics out there and i'm glad there are civic fanatics and everything else imagineable. how much would it suck if everyone drove the same car with the same engine and the same upgrade path? how about a little show of applause for individuality?
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Seems like badass numbers...is it only EXTERNAL work or is there more to those numbers??
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