motor build... need some help..

[boostme05]

i have a 1995 acura integra with the b18b1... but i have a b18a1 motor that i want to build up... first question... will it be a straight swap... or will i have to rewire things?... second... i wanna boost the hell out of the engine.. and i know forged interonals is the way to go.. but whats would be the best build up to runthat block at 20 psi?.. i know that im sending the head out to headgames for them to do the full race head... and 3rd... now i need a tranny to beable to take that hp.. and displace it without busting gears.. whats the best way to build up a tranny to handle it? thanks!

[BCSpeed]

The only wiring differences between the engines are b18b1 obd1 engine, the coolant temp sensor in on the cylinder head and the b18a1 obd0 engine the coolant temp sensor in on the back of the block. You Going to have to change the wiring for the sensor other than that the wiring is the same. The block you need a good set up rods to hold up at high rpms (crower,Manley)..., a set of low compression pistions ( je,cp)... And becasuse you are running an ls block i would reccomend you purchasing an main gurdle inorder to hold the rotating assembly tight togther. Gsr and type r blocks come factory with the gurdle the ls dose not. Are you installing a vtec head on the block or you plain on running a straight ls? With the ls head they flow alot less cfm and it takes a good bit of effort to make them flow as much as a fatory vtec head would.And As far as your tranny you can either put honda gears back in it or gear speed carbon gears, and a quaife lsd. Theres not much that you can do to hold up to the abuse you will just have to do things to aid the abuse.

[highmilehatch]

Try making 300+whp on a stock block first and get used to that. In the meantime build up your spare block. How much power do you want? Powerband? What do you mean by "full race" head? A serious race-prepped cylinder head with aggressive cams will not make for a streetable experience. What kind of driving are you going to be doing? PSI is irrelevant unless you just want to be able to tell people you run 20 psi. Your selection of parts for your turbo kit and tuning method is going to lay the foundation for the power output.

[BCSpeed]

There are alot of unanswered questions you need to figure out,inorder to see what your going to do with the car and then you can determine what to do with the build.

[Cypher]

for all ur honda questions check out www.clubcivic.com

[highmilehatch]

I just read a few threads at clubcivic.com. Please do yourself a favor and don't read any of the garbage posted there, as it will completely lead you in the wrong direction.

[Cypher]

lol those guys are crazy and go mad off topic sometimes but alot of the guys are amazingly gifted and know what they are doing. honestly sometimes i go on there and just laugh because they go so far off topic.

[turboteg]

[advertising is not allowed on TST without becoming a vendor, post deleted]

[BCSpeed]

Are you a vendor????

[turboteg]

Originally Posted by BCSpeed

The only wiring differences between the engines are b18b1 obd1 engine, the coolant temp sensor in on the cylinder head and the b18a1 obd0 engine the coolant temp sensor in on the back of the block. You Going to have to change the wiring for the sensor other than that the wiring is the same. The block you need a good set up rods to hold up at high rpms (crower,Manley)..., a set of low compression pistions ( je,cp)... And becasuse you are running an ls block i would reccomend you purchasing an main gurdle inorder to hold the rotating assembly tight togther. Gsr and type r blocks come factory with the gurdle the ls dose not. Are you installing a vtec head on the block or you plain on running a straight ls? With the ls head they flow alot less cfm and it takes a good bit of effort to make them flow as much as a fatory vtec head would.And As far as your tranny you can either put honda gears back in it or gear speed carbon gears, and a quaife lsd. Theres not much that you can do to hold up to the abuse you will just have to do things to aid the abuse.

no, I'm just trying to save this guy some money your list includes alot of stuff that just isn't nessesery. do you actully know what goes into installing a block girdle properly they just don't bolt on, machine the caps,align hone and a new oil pick up plus the only one worth buying is a ERL one because it covers all 5 caps not 3 like those ebay junks that cover 3 that are simular to type R and gsr set ups and the whole deal would be $600-700 wich wont make a difference unless he had 700hp. it would be a waste offf money

and what are carbon gear speed gears, gear speed uses honda gears. I think you ment carbon syncros. I know guys with 9 sec hondas with stock gear sets.
and if all he wants to do is run 20psi all he needs is eagle rods not manley or crower there great but there at $300 more than the eagles


I'm not trying to step on your toes but just trying to save this guy from false info
if he needs to buy parts I guess your the guy he needs to talk to but, engine building is alot more than buying the stuff the magazines tells you is the best

[BCSpeed]

Your not trying to save to guy money you are trying to sell him on a half assed build, and in your mind you think that you are helping him out. You think because you have put 1 or 2 engines together that you are some kind of engine god. Do you machine any of your engines or do you think because you assemble an engine that you build engines now?? I have been putting these cars together for about 7 years now, with about 5 years of R&D,and testing. So unlike your self what is stated are facts! Not some bull**** mag write ups or honda-tech posts.Eagle rods and products may work on american cars but they do not hold up on hondas. Mabey at 8psi or so but with anything over that the rod caps disfigure,cause bearings to spin and....... There oiling holes the the rods do not let the rotating assembly to properly cool. The z10 block gurdle or function 7 3 main cap gurdles are a quality product, there is no need to run the erl 5 main unless you are trying to make a hole lot of power. The ls bottom end over time from not running a gurdle will cause the crank to have movent from the assemble not being tight enough under high pressures. Holy **** a typo!!! I do sell the syncro sets and i do know the difference. Like i stated before if it is a high whp car no matter what you put in the trans it will not last forever!!!!

[turboteg]

Originally Posted by BCSpeed

Your not trying to save to guy money you are trying to sell him on a half assed build, and in your mind you think that you are helping him out. You think because you have put 1 or 2 engines together that you are some kind of engine god. Do you machine any of your engines or do you think because you assemble an engine that you build engines now?? I have been putting these cars together for about 7 years now, with about 5 years of R&D,and testing. So unlike your self what is stated are facts! Not some bull**** mag write ups or honda-tech posts.Eagle rods and products may work on american cars but they do not hold up on hondas. Mabey at 8psi or so but with anything over that the rod caps disfigure,cause bearings to spin and....... There oiling holes the the rods do not let the rotating assembly to properly cool. The z10 block gurdle or function 7 3 main cap gurdles are a quality product, there is no need to run the erl 5 main unless you are trying to make a hole lot of power. The ls bottom end over time from not running a gurdle will cause the crank to have movent from the assemble not being tight enough under high pressures. Holy **** a typo!!! I do sell the syncro sets and i do know the difference. Like i stated before if it is a high whp car no matter what you put in the trans it will not last forever!!!!

I work at a machine shop with a engine dyno I do all my own machine work and assembly. and the reason the bearing spun in the eagle rods you had was because you checked your clearence with plastic gauge.

plus I have a ls vtec with eagle rods 22psi 430whp no block girdle been driving to and from work everydayfor about 2yrs and I tuned it my self.

Its ok I'll drop it your the man ,you know it all The amount of knowlage you have is over welming. Your right I"m trying to sell him a crappy engine because thats what I loved to do I'm busted.

you may beable to feed that bullsh*t to other guys on the forum but I actually know what I'm talking about and can call you on it

ya 8psi your retarded

[highmilehatch]

Originally Posted by turboteg

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First thing you should do is become a vendor before offering your services.

[jc8889]

Originally Posted by BCSpeed

Your not trying to save to guy money you are trying to sell him on a half assed build, and in your mind you think that you are helping him out. You think because you have put 1 or 2 engines together that you are some kind of engine god. Do you machine any of your engines or do you think because you assemble an engine that you build engines now?? I have been putting these cars together for about 7 years now, with about 5 years of R&D,and testing. So unlike your self what is stated are facts! Not some bull**** mag write ups or honda-tech posts.Eagle rods and products may work on american cars but they do not hold up on hondas. Mabey at 8psi or so but with anything over that the rod caps disfigure,cause bearings to spin and....... There oiling holes the the rods do not let the rotating assembly to properly cool. The z10 block gurdle or function 7 3 main cap gurdles are a quality product, there is no need to run the erl 5 main unless you are trying to make a hole lot of power. The ls bottom end over time from not running a gurdle will cause the crank to have movent from the assemble not being tight enough under high pressures. Holy **** a typo!!! I do sell the syncro sets and i do know the difference. Like i stated before if it is a high whp car no matter what you put in the trans it will not last forever!!!!

Hey my man, Nick is a nice guy not to mention he can BUILD a bad ass race motor. So before you go and get all offended and jump on his **** you should know the facts. He works for Mahler engine service in Glenolden and he has built more than a "couple" engines. A matter of fact he built my custom 2.4 setup in my Mitsubishi. He's not trying to beat anyone out of a sale, he's just stating that alot of those over priced products are unnecessary. Not everyone out there can throw a couple extra thousand dollars out the window on fancy parts. If a cheaper part can get the job done in a street car, why not use that? Its not like its being displayed for the world to see. Alot of the time your paying for a name. And thats the TRUTH. So please dont be offended by anything I just said, Im just backing my engine builder up.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

Originally Posted by highmilehatch

First thing you should do is become a vendor before offering your services.

please are you trying to become the next moderator? lol god turboteg was offering to lend someone a hand with a build.

Ive Known Turbo teg for about 6 years now and ever since ive met him he has known his **** about cars and building insane motors. He's right when he says you dont need half the bull**** BCspeed is trying to con you into buying. I understand the starter of this thread has hopes of pushing 20psi and the build that turboteg was talking about is tottally possible of 20 psi. Some people have to step back from there powertrip mindset thinking they know everything and think. Everyone is going to have there own opinion on what will and wont work but beings that bcspeed probably never tried turbotegs way i doubt his experience in building and testing things with out the advice of a magazine. I Know TurboTeg, I trust him with any install/build on my car that iam not capable at times to do because i know his background well and Know for a fact if he says sumtin is going to work it will. Theres no need to down/doubt him cause hes not a vendor, being a vendor just means you sell **** on here for all i care.

keep in mind back when Bc speed was new here i heard big talk about a 600whp integra which i heard was there "shop car", then i showed up to the charity dyno and was dissapointed with a low 415whp. its not really low but it was dissapointing considering all the big talk i was hearing.

[ej20wrx123]

Originally Posted by turboteg

ya 8psi your retarded

Yea dont the stock blocks hold 12psi?

[turboteg]

Originally Posted by ej20wrx123

Yea dont the stock blocks hold 12psi?

oh ya I forgot to mention my block has stock sleeves with just forged internals
having to get a honda block sleeved and block girdled is a big misconception
and a waste of money unless you have a race only engine thats going to see detination alot

boost doesn't crack sleeves or blow up engines detination does if the tuners good he can really push a stock engine. I have a friend with a stock ls integra all it has is dsm 450cc injectors fuel reg and a 18g greddy turbo kit with hondata
he put down 335whp @ 23 psi he did it about 5-6 months ago and its still going

[jc8889]

LJ you go boy, I like the Moderator comment. Have you ever seen that movie " you got served".

[highmilehatch]

Originally Posted by jc8889

LJ you go boy, I like the Moderator comment. Have you ever seen that movie " you got served".

What are you in high school? I'm not trying to become a moderator. BC Speed isn't giving bad advice, he's giving personal advice. There is no need to come in here and start bashing someone's idea of a good build because you don't agree with it. Building engines/cars whatever based on what has worked for you personally in the past is a pretty solid way of doing things. I try not to deviate too much from something that has worked for me either. Theres nothing wrong with suggesting other parts that will work just as well. But don't try to discredit someone who suggests something thats has worked for them.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

Originally Posted by highmilehatch

But don't try to discredit someone who suggests something thats has worked for them.

Im not saying Bc Speed's way is wrong but he was discrediting turboteg's way of a build basically calling his b.s. when its not. Also he doubted his skills of building engines and what not, when i and others on here know that he is very good at what he does and shouldnt be doubted. Of course Bc Speed took the vendor standpoint like he would trying to convince the kid into buying some things that are expensive and just not necessary, in hope to make a couple bucks probably. i cant hate on him for trying to make money off a forum he PAYS to advertise on. And no were not in highschool we have a sense of humor.