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Demonicbird00 · 08-12-2006, 08:47 PM

more bad news, when installing new metal header gaskets, the one header bolt broke inside

so now i cant go for the cam only list, and i didnt make it onto the SI list soo its kinda a bummer. im not gonna take the heads off again to stay cam only, unless a great deal falls in my lap.

but i guess the good news is that im going to get 243 castings and port them and have a H/C setup now.

-brandon

sleeperstyle · 08-13-2006, 01:01 AM

PUSSY!

j/k man, good luck with it. f-getting on the lists, just have fun with the car and see how far you can go with it.

fyi- there were some GOOD budget heads floating around that nick/matt harris mentioned to me- forget the exacts but they were very inexpensive and flowed killer #'s. maybe the ones you are getting, dunno

D Money · 08-13-2006, 10:19 AM

hello 500whp. lol

TehWagon · 08-15-2006, 08:19 AM

could have been either one of us that broke that bolt... it made no sense - some of them would go right in finger tight, others almost felt like they were cross threaded and wouldn't go in for anything. either way, it sucked. lots of scrapes and sore muscles for nothing! but i guess if he ends up getting more power out of it then it wasn't all for not.

but he's not likely to stop caring about getting on those lists, so its pointless to try

Raven18940 · 08-15-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sleeperstyle

fyi- there were some GOOD budget heads floating around that nick/matt harris mentioned to me- forget the exacts but they were very inexpensive and flowed killer #'s. maybe the ones you are getting, dunno

There's more to a good head than flow numbers. ;)

Sorry to hear, big fan of your crazy fast, but not heavily moddified car.

DocEwww · 08-31-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by subwrxkid

hello 500whp. lol

Hello, I'm reality, have we met?

D Money · 08-31-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DocEwww

Hello, I'm reality, have we met?

haha. Look at you playin me out lol. Real beat drew. lol

DocEwww · 08-31-2006, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by subwrxkid

haha. Look at you playin me out lol. Real beat drew. lol

DocEwww · 08-31-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven18940

There's more to a good head than flow numbers. ;)

Please elaborate if you would.

D Money · 08-31-2006, 04:05 PM

Damn, Drew is on a rampage today rippin all kinds of dudes!

Sled · 08-31-2006, 05:57 PM

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Please elaborate if you would.

heads need to beable to hold velocity and have less turbulence.

Demonicbird00 · 08-31-2006, 06:20 PM

i have stock heads back on the car. no ported heads yet, i wanna get on that cam only list.

-brandon

NJGOAT · 08-31-2006, 11:46 PM

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Hello, I'm reality, have we met?

Hey, anything's possible when you don't let TTP touch your car....

DocEwww · 09-01-2006, 12:30 AM

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Hey, anything's possible when you don't let TTP touch your car....

Yea we should all use JPR instead!

Or better yet run high 12s with a cam swap and a tire...cmon Mr. 80K/yr, you can do better than that.

LS1LT1 · 09-01-2006, 01:27 AM

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Or better yet run high 12s with a cam swap and a tire...

Well in all fairness, it IS a nearly 4000 pound (with driver) car...and 12.7 isn't exactly high 12s either.

Umm, and exactly how quick/fast should a bolt ons/cammed/geared LS1 F-body WITH A BOTTLE be going by the way?

D Money · 09-01-2006, 01:41 AM

wo wo wo wo now. Why is everyone comin at Drew right now? Yeah, I would think a gto with those mods would be deep into the 11's, not a high 12....

LS1LT1 · 09-01-2006, 02:55 AM

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Why is everyone comin at Drew right now?

Why? Because people in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones...maybe Ed's car should've gone a bit quicker (and maybe it still will) with that BABY CAM and stock exhaust that he has but regardless, someone who's only gone high 11s with a potentially mid to high 10 second set up (cam + nitrous) is certainly NOT in a position to criticize ANYONE.

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Yeah, I would think a gto with those mods would be deep into the 11's, not a high 12....

Deep 11s?

Not even close in such a heavy car that's so hard to launch well with a manual...the all out full bolt ons/cam only LS1 GTO record is only 11.8s (in good air no less) and it's an automatic with the advantages of a high stall converter and gears.
Ed's car is only slightly off the mark for the few mods it has and not to make excuses but his clutch was shot at that point as well.

zerioustt · 09-01-2006, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LS1LT1

Well in all fairness, it IS a nearly 4000 pound (with driver) car...and 12.7 isn't exactly high 12s either.

Umm, and exactly how quick/fast should a bolt ons/cammed/geared LS1 F-body WITH A BOTTLE be going by the way?

Lmao...marc your the man

zerioustt · 09-01-2006, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LS1LT1

Why? Because people in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones...maybe Ed's car should've gone a bit quicker (and maybe it still will) with that BABY CAM and stock exhaust that he has but regardless, someone who's only gone high 11s with a potentially mid to high 10 second set up (cam + nitrous) is certainly NOT in a position to criticize ANYONE.

Deep 11s?

Not even close in such a heavy car that's so hard to launch well with a manual...the all out full bolt ons/cam only LS1 GTO record is only 11.8s (in good air no less) and it's an automatic with the advantages of a high stall converter and gears.
Ed's car is only slightly off the mark for the few mods it has and not to make excuses but his clutch was shot at that point as well.

Marc owning people once again...you can't argue with the ls1 god

Raven18940 · 09-01-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sled

heads need to beable to hold velocity and have less turbulence.

They should also swirl the air in a such a way as to mix the air and fuel for a more complete burn. Then there's a properly shaped combustion chamber that doesn't have any hot spots that could cause pre ignition. There's also an issue on NA engines that you don't want the head to flow too well at low lift so as to prevent air going back out of the cylinder when the valves are closing. It's really complicated stuff.

08-12-2006, 08:47 PM	#1
Demonicbird00 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: south jersey Member #629 My Ride: 00 TA iTrader: (0)	BYE BYE Cam Only............. more bad news, when installing new metal header gaskets, the one header bolt broke inside so now i cant go for the cam only list, and i didnt make it onto the SI list soo its kinda a bummer. im not gonna take the heads off again to stay cam only, unless a great deal falls in my lap. but i guess the good news is that im going to get 243 castings and port them and have a H/C setup now. -brandon __________________ 00 Black T/A m6 Stock Internals 343hp/349tq 11.81@ 117 1.59 60' Cam Only 456hp/408tq 10.84 @ 127.8 1.56 60' To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

08-13-2006, 01:01 AM	#2
sleeperstyle Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2005 Member #848 iTrader: (0)	PUSSY! j/k man, good luck with it. f-getting on the lists, just have fun with the car and see how far you can go with it. fyi- there were some GOOD budget heads floating around that nick/matt harris mentioned to me- forget the exacts but they were very inexpensive and flowed killer #'s. maybe the ones you are getting, dunno __________________ 99' firebird formula-- 495rwhp

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Demonicbird00 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: south jersey Member #629 My Ride: 00 TA iTrader: (0)	i have stock heads back on the car. no ported heads yet, i wanna get on that cam only list. -brandon __________________ 00 Black T/A m6 Stock Internals 343hp/349tq 11.81@ 117 1.59 60' Cam Only 456hp/408tq 10.84 @ 127.8 1.56 60' To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.