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Gorilla Unit 33 · 07-31-2006, 02:22 AM

WTF! Bobby Abreu and Cory Lidle for 4 no name prospects...

are they

or sumtin

im sorry, i understand bobby had a big contract payout that comes along with him but you dont go ahead and throw in a great young player also with bobby for these no-namers. As disapointed as i am this shouldnt surprise me Most of the time philly teams make dumbass moves but i cant get over this one knowing that bobby was going to go some time soon with all of the talk you dont trade in a porsche and a civic si for a bunch of base model suzuki esteem's...

me and my dad talked about this tonight in dissapointment when i got home from a friends. later on in the conversation he says "there suppose to make another move somtime tomarrow afternoon" my reply "ohh god i cant wait to see what there going to do now? trade off burrell and utley for a noname catcher and shortstop, when what we really need is some reliable and powerful pitching. we can swing the bat's but we cant throw the ball"

how do you guys feel?

doug · 07-31-2006, 03:30 AM

Bobby's slacking. im sad to see him go, but we picked up two good very needed pitchers.. and got rid of some of the slack. Personally, I'd of rather seen them dump off Burrell than Abreu. Abreu walks a lot more, and he's much faster around the bases than ol' Pat. I hope Abreu wakes up and does well in NY.

5 behind in the wildcard with 60 games isn't bad. I think Dellucci is a great player, and glad to see him become the starer in RF.. he's got a good bat and is a better fielder than Bobby for sure. Hopefully the offense stays hot. We'll see what Gillick can do.. he wants to make one more trade he said.. I'm hoping it's not Dellucci (that'd be so dumb), Cormier (dumber), Gordon (REALLY REALLY DUMB), but Lieber they can dump off.. he isn't consistant anymore.

That's my two cents..

HickRocket1258 · 07-31-2006, 10:07 AM

I agree with Doug when he says that Bobby was slacking some. Sometimes he never seemed to go all out or would let up and not go for the ball when he could of possibly caught it. I didn't realize that we were actually that close for the wild card race. Anyways I don't think it is too bad considering that if we don't make the playoffs we at least get to see how these new guys will do and if they are worth keeping.

What does anyone think about Utley? Think he is going to beat JRolls record?

GyrlSpeedRT · 07-31-2006, 10:13 AM

Still can't believe they let Bobby go, plus they let David Bell go too. As much as I like Chase, I don't think he's gonna beat it...get real close tho. Okay, Bobby has slacked a little, but so did Pat Burrell and a few other guys. I cannot understand them letting him go for prospects? What the hell is that? We could at least trade him for a serious pitcher who is gonna put some strikes on the board. Philly teams always seem to amaze me with these b.s. trades for people who never show up. As you can tell, I'm aggravated ;)

Gorilla Unit 33 · 07-31-2006, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GyrlSpeedRT

plus they let David Bell go too

i hated that guy ... hes as worthless as a-rod in his 7 game error streak. but i will say this he did make some good plays here and there just not my type of 3rd basemen. i say burrell and lieber go today... possibly another young guy like lidle

ketchup! · 07-31-2006, 11:29 AM

ok, well here is my point of view.

This was an excellent trade for the phillies in many different ways. One way is that it clears up salary for signing free agents in the off-season. Second is that Abreu never stepped up in the clutch and he is a terrible fielder. He never wants to swing the bat all he wants to do is walk. Third, the phillies are going nowhere with the makeup of the team they have now, so they have to get rid of all the bums(especially Burrell). Don't worry this trade was for the better, I guarantee the Phillies will win 90 games next season. Their lineup will consist of mostly speed and power from Ryan Howard. This was a step forward for Pat Gillick and the Phillies.

doug · 07-31-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GyrlSpeedRT

Still can't believe they let Bobby go, plus they let David Bell go too. As much as I like Chase, I don't think he's gonna beat it...get real close tho. Okay, Bobby has slacked a little, but so did Pat Burrell and a few other guys. I cannot understand them letting him go for prospects? What the hell is that? We could at least trade him for a serious pitcher who is gonna put some strikes on the board. Philly teams always seem to amaze me with these b.s. trades for people who never show up. As you can tell, I'm aggravated ;)

I'm aggrivated too.. they traded Cormier today for a no-name minor league pitcher. DUMB.

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Originally Posted by Gorilla Unit 33

i hated that guy ... hes as worthless as a-rod in his 7 game error streak. but i will say this he did make some good plays here and there just not my type of 3rd basemen. i say burrell and lieber go today... possibly another young guy like lidle

Lidle was traded with Abreu.

Gorilla Unit 33 · 07-31-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug

Lidle was traded with Abreu.

i was just using him as an example i knew this.... and now cormier for a no namer... they trhow away potential power for potential failure i guess huh... cant wait to see what else there going to do

ketchup! · 07-31-2006, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=doug]I'm aggrivated too.. they traded Cormier today for a no-name minor league pitcher. DUMB.
QUOTE]

That was a smart move, common sense now cmon

doug · 07-31-2006, 12:17 PM

how so? Comier had an ERA below 2 and has been solid all season.

TalonTsi97 · 07-31-2006, 12:35 PM

I dont understand what there doing, i mean i do and dont. Im so unsure of all of this. I just saw they got rid of cormier and am upset with that. I rather have abreu then burrell but lately abreu hasnt been the same. I still think we coulda got a little something better for him and lidle.
Phil's are bout to come on at 1, trade deadline over at 4 so it will be interesting to see the next few hours. The way things look they are taking a year or two off and trying to rebuild, i doubt they will have a great season next year unless they pick up some good free agents. Anyone know who is free agent next year?

Crzyguy972 · 07-31-2006, 12:46 PM

I was at teh game last night and we were all sad to see him go but it is one of the better moves, His salary was too high for us to start trying to build a stronger team. For example after the marlins win the world series they get rid of everyone and start fresh so they iwll be amazing in a couple of years. Were brining up good minor league players and dont forget howard was from the minor league.

doug · 07-31-2006, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalonTsi97

The way things look they are taking a year or two off and trying to rebuild, i doubt they will have a great season next year unless they pick up some good free agents. Anyone know who is free agent next year?

They're 5 out of the wildcard.. this season isn't a total loss.. yet.

TalonTsi97 · 07-31-2006, 01:35 PM

Yea im not saying its over, but it just looks like there going to take some time and rebuild.

TalonTsi97 · 07-31-2006, 01:58 PM

Utley 0-2 with strike out and he gave one a good ride that got cought in front of the wall. He will still get another 2 at bats it looks like so hopefully he will come threw.

CleanNeon98 · 07-31-2006, 02:27 PM

My math teacher called them the sillies...that is a more on target name

Gorilla Unit 33 · 07-31-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

My math teacher called them the sillies...that is a more on target name

lol i like that one... if they make another dumb move i think ill be calling them that

Crzyguy972 · 07-31-2006, 04:17 PM

Utley Got It 32

Gorilla Unit 33 · 07-31-2006, 04:19 PM

sweet...

ketchup! · 08-01-2006, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug

They're 5 out of the wildcard.. this season isn't a total loss.. yet.

dude they have 0% chance of making the wildcard because they have about 5-6 teams to pass, which is utterly impossible

07-31-2006, 02:22 AM	#1
Gorilla Unit 33 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where do you live? Member #532 My Ride: Fly Mosca II w/pegs LOLZ iTrader: (7)	How bout them Phillies... WTF! Bobby Abreu and Cory Lidle for 4 no name prospects... are they or sumtin im sorry, i understand bobby had a big contract payout that comes along with him but you dont go ahead and throw in a great young player also with bobby for these no-namers. As disapointed as i am this shouldnt surprise me Most of the time philly teams make dumbass moves but i cant get over this one knowing that bobby was going to go some time soon with all of the talk you dont trade in a porsche and a civic si for a bunch of base model suzuki esteem's... me and my dad talked about this tonight in dissapointment when i got home from a friends. later on in the conversation he says "there suppose to make another move somtime tomarrow afternoon" my reply "ohh god i cant wait to see what there going to do now? trade off burrell and utley for a noname catcher and shortstop, when what we really need is some reliable and powerful pitching. we can swing the bat's but we cant throw the ball" how do you guys feel? __________________ find me here: gorillaunit33.wordpress.com

07-31-2006, 10:07 AM	#3
HickRocket1258 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Member #415 iTrader: (0)	I agree with Doug when he says that Bobby was slacking some. Sometimes he never seemed to go all out or would let up and not go for the ball when he could of possibly caught it. I didn't realize that we were actually that close for the wild card race. Anyways I don't think it is too bad considering that if we don't make the playoffs we at least get to see how these new guys will do and if they are worth keeping. What does anyone think about Utley? Think he is going to beat JRolls record? __________________ -Rob Just a mustang that's lowered.....that's about it. Work harder....Millions on welfare depend on you!

07-31-2006, 10:13 AM	#4
GyrlSpeedRT Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Over the hill and through the woods... Member #621 My Ride: 2000 Saturn SL1 'GSRT' Edition iTrader: (1)	Still can't believe they let Bobby go, plus they let David Bell go too. As much as I like Chase, I don't think he's gonna beat it...get real close tho. Okay, Bobby has slacked a little, but so did Pat Burrell and a few other guys. I cannot understand them letting him go for prospects? What the hell is that? We could at least trade him for a serious pitcher who is gonna put some strikes on the board. Philly teams always seem to amaze me with these b.s. trades for people who never show up. As you can tell, I'm aggravated ;) __________________ GyrlSpeed Racing Team Performance: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. GyrlSpeed Shop...Buy something dammit! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-31-2006, 11:29 AM	#6
ketchup! Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Honda Member #656 My Ride: Speedooo's Sister iTrader: (0)	ok, well here is my point of view. This was an excellent trade for the phillies in many different ways. One way is that it clears up salary for signing free agents in the off-season. Second is that Abreu never stepped up in the clutch and he is a terrible fielder. He never wants to swing the bat all he wants to do is walk. Third, the phillies are going nowhere with the makeup of the team they have now, so they have to get rid of all the bums(especially Burrell). Don't worry this trade was for the better, I guarantee the Phillies will win 90 games next season. Their lineup will consist of mostly speed and power from Ryan Howard. This was a step forward for Pat Gillick and the Phillies. __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.*

07-31-2006, 12:14 PM	#9
ketchup! Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Honda Member #656 My Ride: Speedooo's Sister iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=doug]I'm aggrivated too.. they traded Cormier today for a no-name minor league pitcher. DUMB. QUOTE] That was a smart move, common sense now cmon __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.*

07-31-2006, 03:30 AM	#2
doug Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Member #450 My Ride: 2007 WRX STi Limited, 1969 Z/28 Camaro iTrader: (1)	Bobby's slacking. im sad to see him go, but we picked up two good very needed pitchers.. and got rid of some of the slack. Personally, I'd of rather seen them dump off Burrell than Abreu. Abreu walks a lot more, and he's much faster around the bases than ol' Pat. I hope Abreu wakes up and does well in NY. 5 behind in the wildcard with 60 games isn't bad. I think Dellucci is a great player, and glad to see him become the starer in RF.. he's got a good bat and is a better fielder than Bobby for sure. Hopefully the offense stays hot. We'll see what Gillick can do.. he wants to make one more trade he said.. I'm hoping it's not Dellucci (that'd be so dumb), Cormier (dumber), Gordon (REALLY REALLY DUMB), but Lieber they can dump off.. he isn't consistant anymore. That's my two cents..

07-31-2006, 12:17 PM	#10
doug Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Location: Springfield, PA Member #450 My Ride: 2007 WRX STi Limited, 1969 Z/28 Camaro iTrader: (1)	how so? Comier had an ERA below 2 and has been solid all season.

07-31-2006, 12:35 PM	#11
TalonTsi97 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Member #136 My Ride: 1997 Eagle Talon iTrader: (21)	I dont understand what there doing, i mean i do and dont. Im so unsure of all of this. I just saw they got rid of cormier and am upset with that. I rather have abreu then burrell but lately abreu hasnt been the same. I still think we coulda got a little something better for him and lidle. Phil's are bout to come on at 1, trade deadline over at 4 so it will be interesting to see the next few hours. The way things look they are taking a year or two off and trying to rebuild, i doubt they will have a great season next year unless they pick up some good free agents. Anyone know who is free agent next year? __________________ 1997 Eagle Talon Tsi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Updated weekly with Dyno, Track, AutoX, Street, and Event videos. Big updates coming soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-31-2006, 12:46 PM	#12
Crzyguy972 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Langhorne, PA Member #514 My Ride: 2005 Mazda 6 iTrader: (1)	I was at teh game last night and we were all sad to see him go but it is one of the better moves, His salary was too high for us to start trying to build a stronger team. For example after the marlins win the world series they get rid of everyone and start fresh so they iwll be amazing in a couple of years. Were brining up good minor league players and dont forget howard was from the minor league. __________________ " Nitrous is like a hot girl with an std, you always want to hit it but afraid of the consequences...."

07-31-2006, 01:35 PM	#14
TalonTsi97 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Member #136 My Ride: 1997 Eagle Talon iTrader: (21)	Yea im not saying its over, but it just looks like there going to take some time and rebuild. __________________ 1997 Eagle Talon Tsi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Updated weekly with Dyno, Track, AutoX, Street, and Event videos. Big updates coming soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-31-2006, 01:58 PM	#15
TalonTsi97 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Member #136 My Ride: 1997 Eagle Talon iTrader: (21)	Utley 0-2 with strike out and he gave one a good ride that got cought in front of the wall. He will still get another 2 at bats it looks like so hopefully he will come threw. __________________ 1997 Eagle Talon Tsi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Updated weekly with Dyno, Track, AutoX, Street, and Event videos. Big updates coming soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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07-31-2006, 04:17 PM	#18
Crzyguy972 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Langhorne, PA Member #514 My Ride: 2005 Mazda 6 iTrader: (1)	Utley Got It 32 __________________ " Nitrous is like a hot girl with an std, you always want to hit it but afraid of the consequences...."

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